[TEPES] VeteranGamer84 Players 1,314 posts 52,321 battles Report post #1 Posted April 11, 2018 Looks like better Akizuki varients. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,893 battles Report post #2 Posted April 11, 2018 I wonder if these will get Def AA .. 5x Akizuki's turrets would be nice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #3 Posted April 11, 2018 Kitakaze looks like one version of the Super-Akizuki. So expect the same flavour, just a bit faster and more shortrange AA. The papership tier X though is something I'm wary about. 5x2 100mm guns sounds nice, but I fear the size of the ship necessary for that is going to really screw with the detectability. And considering the whole shtick of the Akizuki is being a DD hunter-killer with competitive concealment, if it ends up getting subpar detectability values all that precious main battery dpm isn't going to find much application. Personally I would've preferred to bump the Akizuki to tier IX (she really is tier IX material, that dpm will shred even Gearings, etc. ... all she needs is a slight bump for her softstats, maybe give her the option to choose between DFAA and TRB and violá) and then have the Super-Akizuki at tier X. Tier VIII could've been replaced with another more standard'y IJN DD (of which there's plenty around without having to get esoteric with paper designs). So overall I'm a bit sceptical. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #4 Posted April 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Aotearas said: Kitakaze looks like one version of the Super-Akizuki. So expect the same flavour, just a bit faster and more shortrange AA. The papership tier X though is something I'm wary about. 5x2 100mm guns sounds nice, but I fear the size of the ship necessary for that is going to really screw with the detectability. And considering the whole shtick of the Akizuki is being a DD hunter-killer with competitive concealment, if it ends up getting subpar detectability values all that precious main battery dpm isn't going to find much application. Personally I would've preferred to bump the Akizuki to tier IX (she really is tier IX material, that dpm will shred even Gearings, etc. ... all she needs is a slight bump for her softstats, maybe give her the option to choose between DFAA and TRB and violá) and then have the Super-Akizuki at tier X. Tier VIII could've been replaced with another more standard'y IJN DD (of which there's plenty around without having to get esoteric with paper designs). So overall I'm a bit sceptical. Yeah, Akizuki doesn't really need more guns and she would be a great t9 ship with just some slight buffing (like hp to be as tanky tier-for-tier compared to others as she is now compared to other t8 stuff). And it's always nice to have real (as in, at least planned) ships at the top of the tree when possible. The 10-gun version sounds like a monster that either will be brokenly overpowered (with competitive concealment) or some strange gimmicky thing that's basically a light cruiser without a citadel. Still, I'm glad to see them thinking about finishing the tree. So, well, I guess there's some hype too, seeing how much I love my Akizuki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] WolfGewehr Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 2,844 posts 11,496 battles Report post #5 Posted April 11, 2018 Ever since I saw this 5-turret Akizuki by Tzoli, I wanted to see it as 3D model as well. Seems like that dream somehow comes true now. (The designs aren't exactly the same, but whatever. It looks gorgeous imo.) Spoiler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] WeGreedy Players 3,005 posts 15,010 battles Report post #6 Posted April 11, 2018 stolen from @Verdius Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] ImperialAdmiral [COMFY] Players 1,649 posts 9,828 battles Report post #7 Posted April 11, 2018 Hype is real guys! Now imagine Harugumo, Minotaur and Worcester div Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCBG] BrusilovX Beta Tester 2,838 posts 23,907 battles Report post #8 Posted April 11, 2018 Won't a TX premium 'break the mold' unless it's a clan wars reward ship? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] WeGreedy Players 3,005 posts 15,010 battles Report post #9 Posted April 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, BrusilovX said: Won't a TX premium 'break the mold' unless it's a clan wars reward ship? Huh... what premium?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #10 Posted April 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, BrusilovX said: Won't a TX premium 'break the mold' unless it's a clan wars reward ship? These aren't premiums but rather the missing t9 and t10 silver ships from the IJN DD branch that currently ends with t8 Akizuki, as can be seen on the pictures OP and Seeteufel provided. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #11 Posted April 11, 2018 Two stats i would love to see, the hp pool of these ships and most importantly the turning radius, the TX looks like its going to have a pretty big one (DD wise) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #12 Posted April 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Major_Damage225 said: Two stats i would love to see, the hp pool of these ships and most importantly the turning radius, the TX looks like its going to have a pretty big one (DD wise) Plus the Akizuki can basically be overtaken by an exhausted snail, I do hope they give these 2 a better turn of speed than her 2 predecessors. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #13 Posted April 11, 2018 T9 Akizuki kai was designed for a speed of 36.7 knots If the T9 and 10 get that and can switch TRB for Def AA everything will be great. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PIKAS] stinkmorchel Beta Tester 2,646 posts 6,966 battles Report post #14 Posted April 11, 2018 as already said, i also fear forthe turnradius (looooong ship) and the concealment of this T10..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] Spellfire40 Beta Tester 5,330 posts 13,776 battles Report post #15 Posted April 11, 2018 50 minutes ago, Aotearas said: Kitakaze looks like one version of the Super-Akizuki. So expect the same flavour, just a bit faster and more shortrange AA. The papership tier X though is something I'm wary about. 5x2 100mm guns sounds nice, but I fear the size of the ship necessary for that is going to really screw with the detectability. And considering the whole shtick of the Akizuki is being a DD hunter-killer with competitive concealment, if it ends up getting subpar detectability values all that precious main battery dpm isn't going to find much application. Personally I would've preferred to bump the Akizuki to tier IX (she really is tier IX material, that dpm will shred even Gearings, etc. ... all she needs is a slight bump for her softstats, maybe give her the option to choose between DFAA and TRB and violá) and then have the Super-Akizuki at tier X. Tier VIII could've been replaced with another more standard'y IJN DD (of which there's plenty around without having to get esoteric with paper designs). So overall I'm a bit sceptical. im rather sceptical about "larger" Aki...Superakis were desighned as faster so if the other aspect of her geting worse she gets in the realm of CV Turning circle..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #16 Posted April 11, 2018 Oh gib gib plis ! Me want ! Im afraid it might suffer greatly thou if it gets outspotted by all other DD's and cant really dodge torps becasue of speed and size. Dont want it to be a Minotaur with HE :/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DAVA] blanc091 Players 151 posts 9,494 battles Report post #17 Posted April 11, 2018 Yes please, esp the tier X ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABIT] Tungstonid Beta Tester 1,568 posts Report post #18 Posted April 11, 2018 Getting DBZ fusion flashbacks here. Kitakami + Shimakaze = Kitakaze Harekaze + Yugumo = Harugumo Btw: Where are those pictures (and the ones about the AP fix) from? Looks like someone secretly made a photo while the concepts were presented in a WG meeting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] Spellfire40 Beta Tester 5,330 posts 13,776 battles Report post #19 Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, blanc091 said: Yes please, esp the tier X ! Now just replace the 10 hour reload 6 tube lancher with another 100mm Turet ......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #20 Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Tungstonid said: Getting DBZ fusion flashbacks here. Kitakami + Shimakaze = Kitakaze Harekaze + Yugumo = Harugumo Btw: Where are those pictures (and the ones about the AP fix) from? Looks like someone secretly made a photo while the concepts were presented in a WG meeting. Not so secretly and not on WG meeting - it was from a big-ish meeting with community contributors in Russia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #21 Posted April 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, eliastion said: Not so secretly and not on WG meeting - it was from a big-ish meeting with community contributors in Russia. Many Bothans died to bring us this information. Don't be so callous about their sacrifice! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #22 Posted April 11, 2018 , they're making me want to grind the IJN DD line again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #23 Posted April 12, 2018 58 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: , they're making me want to grind the IJN DD line again. I've just started, I had Akizuki nearly researched, but I'd given up and gone down the Shimakaze route, just bought the Akizuki and had a fair bit of fun in it. It's slow and sluggish, but the guns really sing, enemy CV came nowhere near me so I didn't get to try the AA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #24 Posted April 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, BeauNidl3 said: enemy CV came nowhere near me so I didn't get to try the AA Well, that I can answer from the receiving side. Akizuki AA is either okay-ish or extremely brutal depending on how many skills and upgrades you decide to take. Full AA she is untouchable by same/lower tier CVs and a difficult target to pursue even in higher tier ones, but if you only take e.g. BFT you will still get crippled or outright killed against a same tier CV unless he thoroughly overstays his welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #25 Posted April 12, 2018 32 minutes ago, BeauNidl3 said: I've just started, I had Akizuki nearly researched, but I'd given up and gone down the Shimakaze route, just bought the Akizuki and had a fair bit of fun in it. It's slow and sluggish, but the guns really sing, enemy CV came nowhere near me so I didn't get to try the AA. Be happy. The AA on this thing SEEMS nice but in reality Akizuki is surprisingly vulnerable to strikes. She has no defensive AA to scatter them and her raw AA power, while amazing for a DD her tier, isn't something that's going to wipe out whole strikes - even if you specced for it. And when the strike DOES get to you - good luck dodging with that Akizuki-special speed and turning circle... I don't say that her AA is useless, mind you - if a dogfight takes place over you, you CAN help your CV. And if you are next to a friendly BB, you CAN contribute to the planes falling out of the sky. And if a CV (especially of equal of lower tier) tries to park a squadron over you for perma-spotting, the spotting won't prove very "perma". But if you get caught by enemy strike coming for you? Despite all your tankiness and AA, better kiss your stern goodbye (especially if the CV happens to outtier you - you might be somewhat ok against a t6). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites