[ANV] Lord0 Players 637 posts 5,973 battles Report post #1 Posted April 11, 2018 I don't think I need to go into the significance of the ship so like the title says: where is HMS Dreadnought? Upcoming premium? Reward ship? A. N. Other? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2 Posted April 11, 2018 Upcoming premium. Have patience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #3 Posted April 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lord0 said: I don't think I need to go into the significance of the ship so like the title says: where is HMS Dreadnought? Upcoming premium? Reward ship? A. N. Other? She has suffered the same fate as the 100th year commemoration for the Battle of Jutland - not important because not russian/soviet 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-L-C] Turin7 Beta Tester 205 posts 1,407 battles Report post #4 Posted April 11, 2018 Sneak Peek: Spoiler 2 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ANV] Lord0 Players 637 posts 5,973 battles Report post #5 Posted April 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Upcoming premium. Have patience. Do you have a link/evidence for this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #6 Posted April 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Turin7 said: Sneak Peek: Hide contents Venerable status approved. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #7 Posted April 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, Lord0 said: Do you have a link/evidence for this? Look at WoT. Everything tanklike that fits the timeline gets added to the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABIT] Tungstonid Beta Tester 1,568 posts Report post #8 Posted April 11, 2018 43 minutes ago, Lord0 said: I don't think I need to go into the significance of the ship so like the title says: where is HMS Dreadnought? Upcoming premium? Reward ship? A. N. Other? I take D: None of the above. AFAIK WG never mentioned her in any near-future plans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #9 Posted April 11, 2018 Well, Mikasa already serves as a great example why t2 BB may not be the best idea. What's the point of a ship if it couldn't hit a barn from the inside? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #10 Posted April 11, 2018 HMS Dreadnought is being asked for since aeons already, but WG has been surprisingly non-committal. Afaik there's no plans for her, or at least I don't remember WG ever saying anything about her making it into WoWs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] josykay Players 711 posts Report post #11 Posted April 11, 2018 I guess, WG doesn't want her, while important from an engineering side, she is just way too similar to Bellerophon, except really shitty secondaries. Like weaker than Nassau's 8.8cm tertiary guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #12 Posted April 11, 2018 To not include Dreadnought in a game about 'battleships' is flat-out negligent, unless you're utterly ignorant of the history. That said, she'd probably be T3 (or even T2), so isn't going to make WG much money. I fear that's your answer right there... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] josykay Players 711 posts Report post #13 Posted April 11, 2018 2 hours ago, G01ngToxicCommand0 said: She has suffered the same fate as the 100th year commemoration for the Battle of Jutland - not important because not russian/soviet To be fair, Draednought was one of the few Dreadnoughts, not present at Jutland. Aside from Queen Elizabeth, Emperor of India, K. Albert, and of course Goeben. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #14 Posted April 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, josykay said: To be fair, Draenought was one of the few Dreadnoughts, not present at Jutland. Aside from Queen Elizabeth, K. Albert, and of course Goeben. She's only of great significance because she was 'the first' (plus, bonus points for the thing with the submarine). If you take the lack of a notable war record to be grounds for exclusion, we'd lose rather a lot of many of the tech trees... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #15 Posted April 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said: Well, Mikasa already serves as a great example why t2 BB may not be the best idea. What's the point of a ship if it couldn't hit a barn from the inside? HMS Dreadnought would be easy... She is pretty much the same HMS Bellerophon being launched just a year before. She has Exactly the same Main guns as the Bellerophon with more but smaller secondaries (and not in Burrbets so more likely to be damaged) Armour is not as good. Just maybe make her a Prem with protected MM to take in to account the worse armour She was still part of the Home fleet during the Battle of Jutland only missing it as she was having a refit Mikasa is a completely different class of ship being launched 6 years before (a huge difference at this time period) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] josykay Players 711 posts Report post #16 Posted April 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Verblonde said: She's only of great significance because she was 'the first' (plus, bonus points for the thing with the submarine). If you take the lack of a notable war record to be grounds for exclusion, we'd lose rather a lot of many of the tech trees... True, but imho it is not fitting, to award a ship for the Jutland anniversity, that wasn't there. They should rather use Derfflinger (Lützow), Seydlitz, or Lion for example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #17 Posted April 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, josykay said: True, but imho it is not fitting, to award a ship for the Jutland anniversity, that wasn't there. They should rather use Derfflinger (Lützow), Seydlitz, or Lion for example. Sorry, I'd missed that it was proposed as a Jutland anniversary thing; you're right - that would be unwise. If they need a Jutland thing, what about HMS Caroline? She's still surviving (and they could just tweak the existing Caledon a bit). My contention is that Dreadnought should be in the game somehow, but not in connection with Jutland... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ANV] Lord0 Players 637 posts 5,973 battles Report post #18 Posted April 11, 2018 Yes, she needs to be in game but not connected to Jutland. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #19 Posted April 11, 2018 2 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said: Well, Mikasa already serves as a great example why t2 BB may not be the best idea. What's the point of a ship if it couldn't hit a barn from the inside? Well, Dreadnought has 5 turrets, and had a category of ships named after her, I mean yeah, that's so comparable to Mikasa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #20 Posted April 11, 2018 4 hours ago, josykay said: To be fair, Draednought was one of the few Dreadnoughts, not present at Jutland. Aside from Queen Elizabeth, Emperor of India, K. Albert, and of course Goeben. She did sink a german uboote by ramming it as the only battleship in history so there is that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] josykay Players 711 posts Report post #21 Posted April 11, 2018 53 minutes ago, G01ngToxicCommand0 said: She did sink a german uboote by ramming it as the only battleship in history so there is that. I know, but a ship not related to jutland wouldn't be appopriate for a jutland event. Other then, that obviously only works if the sub captain is either blind or stupid. If a surface fighting vessel is nearby a potential torpedo target, don't emerge. Or to arrogant, since he already sunk three armored cruisers in a short timeframe... Not to mention, that there were multiple battleships present, including a St. Vincent Dreadnought, and a Bellerophon dreadnought. Which, aside from the ramming also almost resulted in a mutual ramming between Dreadnought and Temeraire both attempting to ramm the sub... Had that accident happened it would be quite embarassing for the Royal Navy: Nice, you killed a 650 ton submarine, and you only sacrificed two dreadnoughts for it :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #22 Posted April 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, josykay said: I know, but a ship not realted to jutland wouldn't be appopriate for a jutland event. You seem a bit fixated on this Jutland connection - how come? The OP was just asking where Dreadnought was; the only previous reference I can see to Jutland was someone observing that Dreadnought had gone the same way as marking the 100th anniversary of the battle i.e. nothing was done... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] josykay Players 711 posts Report post #23 Posted April 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Verblonde said: You seem a bit fixated on this Jutland connection - how come? The OP was just asking where Dreadnought was; the only previous reference I can see to Jutland was someone observing that Dreadnought had gone the same way as marking the 100th anniversary of the battle i.e. nothing was done... I felt a bit misunderstood, and was frequently quoted about it, that is all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #24 Posted April 12, 2018 4 hours ago, josykay said: I felt a bit misunderstood, and was frequently quoted about it, that is all. Ah! I see. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SINT] Jvd2000 Players 1,639 posts 31,173 battles Report post #25 Posted April 12, 2018 As a name Dreadnaught is an icon. As a ship it would be a weaker Bellepheron. Even if given for free (with optional buy) i think we will see a repeat of whining the like as with the DoY as being a weaker premium then its (almost) identical silver line sister. For the fun it would be nice as a given away ship (like WG is preparing with yet again another soviet tier III cruiser) as low tier premiums are never the big trainers. HMS Dreadnaught is not the worst possible future premium but definitely not the most urgent one for release. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites