Jump to content
You need to play a total of 50 battles to post in this section.
Yogibjoern

My personal premium ship wish list

116 comments in this topic

Recommended Posts

[TSCC]
Players
1,823 posts
20,634 battles
25 minutes ago, Yogibjoern said:

I think the dmp with fast firing 5 inch guns and few but strong torpedo's might be enough. Most DD's at T-IV have smaller calibre guns and long reload.

With just two guns she could have rate of fire of 20 rpm but that are still only two guns in single mounts. Tachibana and Smith would eat it at T2, hell she will struggle against any silver T2 dd. Image what would Clemson do it at T4. And only three torps at T4? You can give her Gearing of Fletcher torps it still wouldn't matter. Vampire with two more guns and same amount of torps is T3 ship. She simple lack gun power, torp power or speed to be good.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[ONE2]
Players
2,921 posts
17,156 battles

My list would include (and this is just because I am an IJN fanboy, no rational  reason folks):

 

1) TONE, just because it's special OR ALTERNATIVELY AN IJN SCOUT CRUISER (Cruisers with lotsa planes and both Fighter&Spotting plane capability - Agano, Oyodo, Tone) LINE with Tone, as the top tier, as some unknown genius has suggested before.

2) ISE in its semi CV&BB combo form and yeah, I know it is impossible for now at least, but one can hope.

3) Kitakami in some hugely revised and actually useful form.

 

DISCLAIMER! Since this is a wishlist after all, no-one said it should actually be realistic. :Smile_great:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
471 posts
2,386 battles
7 minutes ago, fumtu said:

With just two guns she could have rate of fire of 20 rpm but that are still only two guns in single mounts. Tachibana and Smith would eat it at T2, hell she will struggle against any silver T2 dd. Image what would Clemson do it at T4. And only three torps at T4? You can give her Gearing of Fletcher torps it still wouldn't matter. Vampire with two more guns and same amount of torps in T3 ship. She is simple lack gun power, torp power or speed to be good.

Comparing it with the Mutsuki at Tier V which have 2 guns to and a stock dpm without any boosts which is 17.000 dpm and 3 torps more. If you put the same guns as on the Fletcher with a 3 second reload you would get a dmp at 72.000.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[JUNK]
[JUNK]
Beta Tester
1,929 posts
7,969 battles

 

13 hours ago, Major_Damage225 said:

Sory for doublequoting you, but i have to ask. 

Would you really like to see Alaska and alike to all be obtainable a'la Stalinski? 

 

No ofc not, instead future FXP ships. Both B65 and Alaska are better fits for tie 9 rather than 10 anyhow.

 

 

Personal wishlist however:

Tier 8 BB RN Vanguard

Tier 7 CL RN Tiger/Blake

Tier 8 CA USN Wichita

Tier 6 BB IJN Haruna

Tier 8 BB IJN Hiraga 1928 design

Tier 8 CLAA MN Degrasse/Colbert

Tier 7/8 IJN CA Maya

Tier 7 CA KM Blücher (Hipper class)

Tier 8 CL KM Seydlitz (4x3 15cm gun variant)

Tier 8 CA USSR Petropavlovsk/Tallinn/Lutzow (8" KM SK C/34 gun variant, but with soviet early war secondary and AA mountings)

 

This list does not include potential hybrid ships like Tone, Ooyodo, Hyuga, Z40, Agano, Alaska, B65, CA2-D etc as their tier and gameplay are not fully flushed out yet. Neither does this list include potential tier 9 FXP ships like N13, Myoko class preliminaries, Jean Bart as well as some of the earlier hybrid ships. Though these are all ships Im looking forward to as well.

  • Cool 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
471 posts
2,386 battles

Vampire have a stock dpm value at 40.800 and a Clemsom have a dpm with 6 guns (maximum numbers of guns on full broadside) without any commander skills at 77.400. So no it would not lack gunpower

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[TSCC]
Players
1,823 posts
20,634 battles
1 minute ago, Yogibjoern said:

Comparing it with the Mutsuki at Tier V which have 2 guns to and a stock dpm without any boosts which is 17.000 dpm and 3 torps more. If you put the same guns as on the Fletcher with a 3 second reload you would get a dmp at 72.000.

And is Mutsuki a good boat? Mutsuki power lies in torps not guns and she still have twice as many as USS Samuel B. Roberts. With just two guns she is anemic and in 1v1 combat she is a dead ship. Two guns at T4 is ridicules. Fact that Mutsuki also have two guns doesn't make it a good idea it just show how Mutsuki is underwhelming in gun department. If one of your guns get incapacitated you have lost 50% of gun power, if one of your torpedo launchers get incapacitated you have lost 100% of you torps. Sorry but you can't fit it at T4. At T2 she would have serious problems. Smith and Tachibana will eat it. Two guns are simple not enough. Try playing Campbeltown and imagine that your two guns are even more spaced. And with only half of Campeltown torp potential?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[H_FAN]
Players
2,220 posts
30,570 battles

OKay- at the present, it is like this - not in any order except for the first! 

I agree with several of the proposals and will add a few (some duplicates)

 

1. Tre Kronor - As I am from Sweden - fat firing guns resaonable speed, with the powercreep today I guess she could be balanced even at T6 , if I woul be allowed 1 ship this Swedish ship is probably the most interesting gamewise

 

Then:

Swedish ships_

Ansaldo proposal 6-28 cm guns

Göteborg DD (my home town, internationally known as Gothenburg). Very fast DD 39 kts T4 (only 3 guns)

Småland (exists in my hometown as museum) but as designed.

Fylgia T2 cruiser 8-6 inch guns in 4x2 config, romboid, unique for its time.

 

Russian ship:

Borodino as designed 12-14 inch guns Better Nikolai!

KNiaz Suvorov - MIkasa must be able to sink its Russian counterparts!

Torpedo Battleship design (Ochotnik-vodka brain design :Smile_izmena:

Some Quad 16-inch design WW1

HYbrid BB/CV - (Gibson/Cox)

 

 

Austria-Hungary

Tegetthoff

Novarra

DD- fast large designs WW1

 

UK

Agincourt 14 main guns-must have

Some County class cruiser

Swift -DDleader WW1

BC-tree in general

DD-tree are coming so let us wait for what ships will go in the silverline

N3/G3

 

Germany:

Blücher WW1 uniform 8 gun very interesting

BC-tree in general

 

US:

Lexington preliminary - 10-14 guns 35 kts 7! funnels

Lexington final design 8-16 33 kts 2 funnels - looks for US ship very good

 

French:

Mogador

Le Fantasque

 

Dutch:

Tromp

Isaac Sweers

Java

De Ruyter

BC -designs

 

Yug:

Split as designed

 

Norway:

Stord

 

IJN:

Agano

Type 11/13 preliminary:

12x16 (6x2)

14x16 (1x2, 3x4)

16-16 (4x4)

6-18 (3x2) 35 kts

8-18 (4x2)

Kongo repl BC 8-16 35 kts

Many of these are Hiraga archive designs

 

US Tillman and German Mega Hship as scenario endbosses! Not in the usual game, but as bot opponents in a scenario with T9-10 ships:Smile_great:

 

In general I want at T2-3 several more old style cruisers - slow many funnels many guns  :Smile_Default:- if they somehow could work out a way to   program mixed arnaments it would be nice.

-but it will not going to happen....:Smile_sad:

Now some ships I have deliberately let go as I assume there will be IT BB/CA/DD Trees , FR DD, RN DD/CV etc so if some of them are used as premiums the list is too long and after all the need for premiums are finite, I have enough premiums and 19 p captains to train captains now , regardless of country and credit is not a problem. 

When I look at all the posts here and my own list - the wallet soon becomes very empty :cap_haloween:

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
520 posts
9,651 battles

HMS Maori

 

Because I have scuba dived the wreck of this ship in Valletta harbor.

 

HMS Cavalier

 

As it still exists

 

HMAS Vampire

 

The proper Daring Class Destroyer not the one we have in game.

  • Cool 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[HAIFU]
Players
505 posts
4,595 battles
On 06/04/2018 at 10:03 AM, fumtu said:

Any Dido class cruiser. Preferable in 5x2 configuration. Again it doesn't matter which one just to be added as a RN ship

 

On 06/04/2018 at 10:17 AM, piritskenyer said:

T7: HMAS Australia 1944/45 (CA), HMAS London post-1942 (CA)

These are good-looking ships, and I hope we get a main line version as well as some premiums. I just hope there aren't any silly gimmicks attached, it would ruin these to the point it would be upsetting.

On 05/04/2018 at 11:12 PM, philjd said:

HMS Agincourt.... 14x12" guns

Just for the memes, but as long as this ship has decent AP and bad HE it could be balanced quite nicely.

On 05/04/2018 at 9:18 PM, Jellicoe1916 said:

I want HMS Exeter, Electra or Encounter, HNLMS De Ruyter, Java and Kortenaer due to them all being badly damaged by illegal salvagers. Want USS Houston also so we have a Northampton and can complete the ABDA Cruiser Force. 

Hmmm, I sense a mega-campaign coming on. This could be an epic co-op scenario, and WG could have some of the ships as rewards. Exeter is a must, due to the role it played at both the River Plate and Java Sea. The Dutch ships would be cool, we need them as they look interesting (perhaps enough for an entire tree?). As for the DD's, one could be a premium/reward ship, the other could be the main line tree when RN DD's get added (soonTM)

 

Plus, the Japanese ships that were present at the Battle of the Java Sea should be made available. I believe some Myoko-class were there (or were they Takaos? Can't remember)

 

Anyway, my picks would be:

HMS Renown, T6 BC (that AA...)

One of the Dido Class at T5/6

HMS Ajax and Achilles (for the River Plate trio)

HMS Nigeria (flagship of Force X during Operation Pedestal, a good T7 premium, that could do away with smoke for DFAA, due to the nature of OP Pedestal)

HMS Lightning (Served on Op Pedestal too, the L class look so powerful. Might be a nice DD hunter)

HMS Enterprise (I know it is similar to Emerald, but it had a twin 6" turret at the front, probably better AA too. Served in the Indian Ocean for a while I believe. A unique looking ship, could be T6/7 with really good torpedoes, concealment and maybe hydro)

 

I guess just add some Royal Navy premiums, especially cruisers, and I'll be happy to part with some cash. :cap_money:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
1,647 posts
7,138 battles

I only have 4 ships I would spend money on without secound thoughts:

 

Type 1945 Destroyer, german Tier X DD with 4x2 128mm (22km range!) and 2x4 533mm torps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_1945_destroyer

 

P-class Cruiser, german Tier X Heavy Cruiser with 3x2 283mm and 2x3 533mm torps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-class_cruiser

 

O-class Battlecruiser, german Tier X Heavy Cruiser (#Stalingrad / #Kronstadt) with 3x2 380mm and 2x3 533mm torps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-class_battlecruiser

 

H-44, german Tier X Battleship with 4x2 508mm and 2x3 533mm torps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-class_battleship_proposals

 

Just love thouse mad ideas! :cap_haloween:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Beta Tester
2,286 posts
9,908 battles

Just give me JRN Dubrovnik, a DD that could pick between 3 different gun calibers, on top of all that, WG, just give Yugoslavian Navy some love. Poland got its ship,  Australia, Canada, seems like Argentina (??) will get its ship, Yugoslavia deserves its presenter in this game, especially considering how many players from the area of ex country play this game, including other WG titles.

  • Cool 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[BOBS2]
[BOBS2]
Players
516 posts
12,815 battles
41 minutes ago, Troublemaker_CRO said:

Just give me JRN Dubrovnik, a DD that could pick between 3 different gun calibers, on top of all that, WG, just give Yugoslavian Navy some love. Poland got its ship,  Australia, Canada, seems like Argentina (??) will get its ship, Yugoslavia deserves its presenter in this game, especially considering how many players from the area of ex country play this game, including other WG titles.

 

Maybe you could also get the Tegetthoff class Battleship Viribus Unitis. When the Austro-Hungarian Empire broke up their navy was ceded to the new state of Yugoslavia, including that ship. However within hours of the Austrian Admiral lowering his flag and departing the two man crew of an Italian midget submarine managed to plan mines and then (according to the Guinness Book of Naval Blunders) had a nasty shock when they were captured and saw the Austrian flag no longer flew over that ship or the city of Pola. Which was historically a blunder, but in game terms means she would count as a Yugoslavian ship as that was the navy she ended her career as part of as she was sunk before Italian troops entered Pola and seized her two surviving sister ships.

 

 

 

 

  • Cool 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[SOCKS]
Players
783 posts
5,479 battles
On 5/4/2018 at 9:54 PM, Tyrendian89 said:

and why would that be? Alaska doesn't fit any line, nothing built before is similar...

Uhm. Baltimore is, actually, not only similar but pretty much a small scale Alaska. Mostly because the Alaska design is rooted in the Baltimore and essentially all it is is an enlarged baltimore with somewhat more armor and those larger guns.

The class designers didn't even bother putting a torpedo defence system on the ship, something which at least would've set some major differences between both designs. Alaska is pretty much a scaled up Baltimore, through and through.

(and considered as one of the worst designs ever completed in american warship building history, given that all the ship was good for was to escort carriers, and for that the baltimores and clevelands did almost an equally good job)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[SOCKS]
Players
783 posts
5,479 battles

My picks:

I'd like to see Alaska too. T7 BB ( same tier as Scharnhorst should work well for her and be quite a fun ship to play. Far better guns in exchange for far worse armor. Although a total anomaly and a ship that defies classification, not a battleship for sure, doesn't really fit the battlecruiser definition either, and obviously displaces twice as a heavy cruiser so not one of them either, scharnhorst has shown that such kind of ships work very well in that tier).

Repair&Refit. T5 battlecruisers (and yes, I know their real names were Renown and Repulse, but I always found those extremelly funny...not to mention appropiate ;)).

HMS Vanguard. T8 battleship (just, please, no HE stupid gimmick on this one).

España. T3 battleship (yeah, the shittiest smallest dreadnought ever, but hey I'm spanish, so I can dream, k? XD).

USS Wichita. T8 heavy cruiser (arguably the best Washington Treaty limited Heavy Cruiser).

County class CA. T8 heavy cruiser (any of them will do). though I shudder to think about fast reloading 8 inch guns with british AP shells fired from smoke...maybe normal AP and HE instead?

T-61. T6/T7/T8 german DD. I just don't care at this point. Just bring it in (seriously fed up with the lack of proper german DD trainers and Z-39 won't cut it for me because of the 150mm guns which mean the ship will be a bad trainer for the T9 and T10 DD captains)

 

  • Cool 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
8 posts
5,400 battles

KMS Schleswig-Holstein, because of historic significance.

Väinämöinen / Ilmarinen coastal defence ships
Tegetthoff-class BBs
 
1 hour ago, Troublemaker_CRO said:

Just give me JRN Dubrovnik, a DD that could pick between 3 different gun calibers, on top of all that, WG, just give Yugoslavian Navy some love. Poland got its ship,  Australia, Canada, seems like Argentina (??) will get its ship, Yugoslavia deserves its presenter in this game, especially considering how many players from the area of ex country play this game, including other WG titles.

Here is another candidate for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_destroyer_Zagreb

 

 

  • Cool 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[JUNK]
[JUNK]
Beta Tester
1,929 posts
7,969 battles
49 minutes ago, RAMJB said:

Uhm. Baltimore is, actually, not only similar but pretty much a small scale Alaska. Mostly because the Alaska design is rooted in the Baltimore and essentially all it is is an enlarged baltimore with somewhat more armor and those larger guns.

The class designers didn't even bother putting a torpedo defence system on the ship, something which at least would've set some major differences between both designs. Alaska is pretty much a scaled up Baltimore, through and through.

(and considered as one of the worst designs ever completed in american warship building history, given that all the ship was good for was to escort carriers, and for that the baltimores and clevelands did almost an equally good job)

You dont seem to understand the gameplay implications that the differences place on Alaska.

 

You know... Like the fact that its over twice as heavy, fires a shell that is over 3 times heavier...

 

Just the tip of the iceberg, but this alone makes for a ship that would be so inherently and fundamentally different from all other US cruiser or battleships within the parameters of the game.

 

So while your historical compasrison is arguably true, the relevance that holds within the confines of the game is close to none.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[SOCKS]
Players
783 posts
5,479 battles
4 minutes ago, Affeks said:

You dont seem to understand the gameplay implications that the differences place on Alaska.

 

You know... Like the fact that its over twice as heavy, fires a shell that is over 3 times heavier...

 

Just the tip of the iceberg, but this alone makes for a ship that would be so inherently and fundamentally different from all other US cruiser or battleships within the parameters of the game.

 

So while your historical compasrison is arguably true, the relevance that holds within the confines of the game is close to none.


Well, I was talking in historical terms, not gameplay wise. Because gameplay wise the "nothing built before it is similar" is also wrong, so I thought the quote was appliable to historical terms, not gameplay wise.

Gameplay wise Scharnhorst has a lot of points in common with Alaska (small guns, high speed, battleship size but lower gun power than BBs), their differences being one having no torpedoes and quite less armor (Still more than enough to tank relatively well at small angles) and the other having vastly inferior guns and being a bit slower.

And that's only because the Kronstahdt has not yet been released - because that's pretty much a russian alaska, which kinda sets another precedent that is very similar (pretty much the same, in fact) in the game itself. Of course that one is not live yet, but being in supertest one would guess it won't take long for it to make into the live servers.

I took the quote as being in historical terms, and I answered it in historical terms, because on in-game terms it simply doesn't apply.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Beta Tester
2,286 posts
9,908 battles
2 hours ago, total_failure said:

 

Here is another candidate for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_destroyer_Zagreb

 

 

There is quite a few more, I'm pretty sure enough DDs to get to at least T7-T8 while for T9 and T10 I'm pretty sure they can dig out the archives

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[SCRUB]
Players
8,460 posts
11,577 battles

- USS Hull (DD-945) with the MCLWG mainbattery configuration

- IJN Agano

- HMS Dido (37)

- Seydlitz in CL variant (4x3 150mm main battery)

- Battle-class destroyer, if a name were needed then HMS Barfleur (D80) because she's the only Battle-class destroyer (1942 design) that served during WW2

 

Far from the only ships I have in mind, but those would be the ones that I'm most interested in to play with at this moment.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Players
503 posts
1,819 battles

My personal list in no particular order (if I had to choose I'd probably go for "RN CA" though)

 

HNoMS Stord (I'm Norwegian, and also it'd be hilarious to hear a Norwegian captain voice)

HMS Cavalier (I see it nearly every day as I go to uni at Chatham Dockyard)

Tre Kronor (any scandinavian ships would be cool, this seems like one of the more likely options)

HMS Ajax

Any RN heavy cruiser

  • Cool 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[SCRUB]
Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster
3,303 posts
3,655 battles
15 hours ago, RAMJB said:

Uhm. Baltimore is, actually, not only similar but pretty much a small scale Alaska. Mostly because the Alaska design is rooted in the Baltimore and essentially all it is is an enlarged baltimore with somewhat more armor and those larger guns.

The class designers didn't even bother putting a torpedo defence system on the ship, something which at least would've set some major differences between both designs. Alaska is pretty much a scaled up Baltimore, through and through.

(and considered as one of the worst designs ever completed in american warship building history, given that all the ship was good for was to escort carriers, and for that the baltimores and clevelands did almost an equally good job)

 

They weren't bad from a design standpoint, they were just pointless. The event hypothesized and ship class to counter never actually came to be, which was only found out afterwards. At that point, aircraft carriers were taking over but noone was realising that yet fully (especially since there were still quite a few gunship admirals)

Economically speaking: A high quality product that had no demand on a saturated market that was losing consumer interest. (something something big-gun ships becoming obsolete)

 

Other than that I think the design was technically sound.

  • Cool 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×