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Some obvious ships that should get nerfed at some point when enough data is collected, but what ships need a buff?

Hipper, Eugen and Shima are getting some needed buffs. What ship is the next in line in your opinion?

 

My entry: Akatsuki - IJN dd at tier 7. Sucks at every level.

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Mogami needs rethinking.

 

Her 155mm configuration is being powercreeped like mad by other CLs and her 203mm version is virtually identical to the Myoukou at tier VII and the Ibuki at tier IX.

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5 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

Mogami needs rethinking.

 

Her 155mm configuration is being powercreeped like mad by other CLs and her 203mm version is virtually identical to the Myoukou at tier VII and the Ibuki at tier IX.

Most tier 8 cruisers are in a pretty bad place. It almost sounds like the Ibuki is worse off then..

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Ships that need a buff?

  • Hindenburg
  • Des Moines
  • Midway
  • Belfast
  • Hindenburg
  • Saipan
  • Orion
  • Imperator
  • Z-52
  • Hindenburg

Just to name a few :Smile_hiding:

But honestly, a few of the IJN destroyers could take a looking at as well as the general mid tiered cruisers outside of the British. The Japanese and Americans in particular have been rendered quite weak due to powercreep and the game's meta as of late. The Ranger is another quite pathetic ship.

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1 minute ago, loppantorkel said:

Most tier 8 cruisers are in a pretty bad place. It almost sounds like the Ibuki is worse off then..

Well, Ibuki IS Mogami/203 with access to heal, 6th upgrade slot and some AA added here and there.

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Ognevoi and mahan for me are those that stand out. Worst tier 7 and 8 DDs by a margin IMO.

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Atlanta 

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No but seriously, a lot of low tier cruisers are just garbage.

They were pretty meh back in the day, and are now just completely powercrept trash.

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20 minutes ago, dasCKD said:

Ships that need a buff?

  • Hindenburg
  • Des Moines
  • Midway
  • Belfast
  • Hindenburg
  • Saipan
  • Orion
  • Imperator
  • Z-52
  • Hindenburg

Just to name a few :Smile_hiding:

But honestly, a few of the IJN destroyers could take a looking at as well as the general mid tiered cruisers outside of the British. The Japanese and Americans in particular have been rendered quite weak due to powercreep and the game's meta as of late. The Ranger is another quite pathetic ship.

U got hindy in there 2x, where is Missoury, Musashi, Nelson and Kamikaze, they need buffs aswell, especially the Kami, needs to get her original 3x3 8km torps back :Smile_trollface:

 

(runs out of the room before the pitchforks arrive) 

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55 minutes ago, Major_Damage225 said:

(runs out of the room before the pitchforks arrive) 

Really, pitchforks aren't what they used to be.

 

Could really use a buff to their sharpness and handle length. Maybe increase the firechance of the torches whilst they're at it for added division synergy.

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1 hour ago, dasCKD said:

Ships that need a buff?

  • Hindenburg
  • Des Moines
  • Midway
  • Belfast
  • Hindenburg
  • Saipan
  • Orion
  • Imperator
  • Z-52
  • Hindenburg

Just to name a few :Smile_hiding:

But honestly, a few of the IJN destroyers could take a looking at as well as the general mid tiered cruisers outside of the British. The Japanese and Americans in particular have been rendered quite weak due to powercreep and the game's meta as of late. The Ranger is another quite pathetic ship.

 

2 of these ships are getting Nerfed :D

 

Midway will get less planes.

and the orion gets a nerf to 

 

 

i would say give the Shimakaze his old torps back the longer range whit less detection.

since there is alot more hydro/radar now.

then there was when they got removed.

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Kebab.  Especially the torps. They need better concealment. :cap_cool:

 

Recent experiences made me think the T-22 is lacking just about everywhere. But the most important thing is that she needs a proper name. Ships should have names that aren't alphanumerical designations. This isn't WoT. No, I don't care how it was back in the actual war.

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The IJN DD at T6-7 have a stealth problem : the newer gunboat are stealthier than them. A review of the DD stealth values should be welcome. At least they are dealing with Shima who has the same problem.

 

For BBs, Izumo & Colorado may need a bit of help.

 

Several cruiser branches suffer a lot in T6-8 because they lack range : I think of IJN, USN and KM mostly (RN has smoke to deal with that). Playing while being low tier or in a BB-heavy game (something quite common) is really not fun.

 

 

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Mahan. Definitely. Look up my dd stats if in doubt. I can make a lot of bad ones work, but that one is the equivalent of a knife fight in a phone booth you have to fight with a rotten wooden spoon you have to wield with your left foot. It is not competitive. At. All.

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every T-7 DD have stealth problems often more than 1 km. they can be out spotted of DD in lower and higher tier

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Atago needs a range increase

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Danae and Emerald.  My friend started playing this game recently and, despite my advice, went down the RN CL line.  He's not new to WG games, he's got over 20k battles in Tanks, so he does understand how they balance stuff and how their game mechanics work, etc..., but after the Danae and a few dozen games in the Emerald he just quit playing.  I ground the Danae myself and it was horrific.  I've purchased the Emerald but have no desire to inflict further pain on myself, no matter how good the ships after it are.

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3 minutes ago, krazypenguin said:

Danae and Emerald.  My friend started playing this game recently and, despite my advice, went down the RN CL line.  He's not new to WG games, he's got over 20k battles in Tanks, so he does understand how they balance stuff and how their game mechanics work, etc..., but after the Danae and a few dozen games in the Emerald he just quit playing.  I ground the Danae myself and it was horrific.  I've purchased the Emerald but have no desire to inflict further pain on myself, no matter how good the ships after it are.

The Leander alone is worth the pain

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Just now, G01ngToxicCommand0 said:

The Leander alone is worth the pain

Eh. I kinda like the Emerald. I even still play it occasionally for fun. The Leander felt like a careful upgrade that faced higher tier ships to me. The Fiji on the other hand. Now that's a good ship.

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1 hour ago, dCK_Ad_Hominem said:

Mahan. Definitely. Look up my dd stats if in doubt. I can make a lot of bad ones work, but that one is the equivalent of a knife fight in a phone booth you have to fight with a rotten wooden spoon you have to wield with your left foot. It is not competitive. At. All.

 

I played a few battles in Mahan while grinding for the Fletcher and it was an incredibly good gunboat for its tier with decent self-defense torps. Got about 87k average damage in 18 matches. 

That was before the smoke changes though. 

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Karlsruhe, low tier RN cruisers, Tenryu, Chester are weak, Kawachi, Myogi. OTOH some ships will always be worst.

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I believe Clemson should be able to stealth torp with at least a 1km margin considering how trash her guns are.

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Shimakaze

 

OK, i know they will give the ship a bit more concealment but i think this won't be enough to come on par with the other T10 DD's.

 

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Kii - better dispersion 

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