[KV] Appadang Alpha Tester 31 posts 4,623 battles Report post #1 Posted April 1, 2018 How come EVERY CRUISER - INLCUDING GERMANS - use Anti-aircraft consumable when they FULLY KNOW that because of Wargamings intelligence when it comes to balance - There are NO CV'S farting around UNLESS YOU PLAY TIER 4-6 ? High level cruisers (7-10) HAVE NO FLIPPING IDEA on how to hydro - YES, SOME cruisers use radar - but WHY THE EFF are noone using hydro and FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF kill those FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF destroyers so our battleships can advance? (PS: Battleships ! STOP FISHING!) Either REMOVE the ANTI-AIR consumable at tier 7-10 or FFFFFFFFFF LEARN TO EFFINGS HYDRO OR HUNT TO FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Destroyers !!!!! Also - Carriers - keep up the amazings :) atleast THEY KNOW how to scout and kill stuff. 2 11 4 8 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] principat121 Modder 6,023 posts 11,475 battles Report post #2 Posted April 1, 2018 Does an evil DD hurt your little bote? here take this: Spoiler 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #3 Posted April 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Appadang said: How come EVERY CRUISER - INLCUDING GERMANS - use Anti-aircraft consumable when they FULLY KNOW that because of Wargamings intelligence when it comes to balance - There are NO CV'S farting around UNLESS YOU PLAY TIER 4-6 ? Because it's not true that there are no CVs at high tiers and it's better to get caught without Hydro in a game that doesn't have a CV than getting caught without AA consumable in a match that happens to have a carrier. 17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyllon Players 2,588 posts Report post #4 Posted April 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, Appadang said: (...) Also - Carriers - keep up the amazings :) atleast THEY KNOW how to scout and kill stuff. Competent CV players? Really? Yes there are few, but chance to come across one is astronomical given how often you meet CVs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[U-W] Firefly2021 Players 91 posts 5,812 battles Report post #5 Posted April 1, 2018 Ok so from my magical mind powers here, you were in a game with your Yamato (In which you have only played 21 games in IJN T8-T9 BB's ) and got torpedoed because you were straight sailing for 2+ mins. No offense caused here but this is a solo-game if you aren't in a division which you communicate with team-mates you won't have team players, it's as simple as that. If you're struggling i'd suggest watching a few of the community contributors videos in which they show you how to play a certain class of ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #6 Posted April 1, 2018 There are enough CV out there that warrant to use the AA consumable and any BB near that cruiser will be thankful in that case And still there are enough cruiser out there who do not use the consumable (because they do not have it or feel save enough without it) If you want to feel save, stay near UK cruisers. They have hydro and have to go closer to the enemy than other cruisers. Or just ask your cruiser players in the match... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #7 Posted April 1, 2018 43 minutes ago, Appadang said: How come EVERY CRUISER - INLCUDING GERMANS - use Anti-aircraft consumable when they FULLY KNOW that because of Wargamings intelligence when it comes to balance - There are NO CV'S farting around UNLESS YOU PLAY TIER 4-6 ? High level cruisers (7-10) HAVE NO FLIPPING IDEA on how to hydro - YES, SOME cruisers use radar - but WHY THE EFF are noone using hydro and FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF kill those FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF destroyers so our battleships can advance? (PS: Battleships ! STOP FISHING!) Either REMOVE the ANTI-AIR consumable at tier 7-10 or FFFFFFFFFF LEARN TO EFFINGS HYDRO OR HUNT TO FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Destroyers !!!!! Also - Carriers - keep up the amazings :) atleast THEY KNOW how to scout and kill stuff. wtf ok. I see your highest tier cruisers are Eugen & Atago, Atago being the most played by far (50 games) You're telling me that you take hydro on the Atago (or Eugen or whatever cruiser)? Cause every enemy CV who notices that will have a field day with you. I'll give it happening two or three times and you will never leave without defAA again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FDUSH] Sargento_YO Players 1,476 posts 12,665 battles Report post #8 Posted April 1, 2018 Yeah, Defensive fire consumable should be removed. I wish everyone who uses it gets insta banned. Anyhow. I avoid cruisers which has high AA like Cleveland, Atlanta, Des moines, etc. Also if I have to attack a cruiser I pay close attention to the use of defensive fire (when planes enter into panic) and if there is one active I abort the attack and retreat the planes and attack 50 seconds later. But still it's annoying as hell. Most of the times I attack the same cruiser for being such a birch to use the consumable (unless he retreated with other ships or something like that) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SINC] Date_A_Bullet Players 2,677 posts 12,073 battles Report post #9 Posted April 1, 2018 Vor 54 Minuten, Appadang sagte: How come EVERY CRUISER - INLCUDING GERMANS - use Anti-aircraft consumable when they FULLY KNOW that because of Wargamings intelligence when it comes to balance - There are NO CV'S farting around UNLESS YOU PLAY TIER 4-6 ? High level cruisers (7-10) HAVE NO FLIPPING IDEA on how to hydro - YES, SOME cruisers use radar - but WHY THE EFF are noone using hydro and FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF kill those FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF destroyers so our battleships can advance? (PS: Battleships ! STOP FISHING!) Either REMOVE the ANTI-AIR consumable at tier 7-10 or FFFFFFFFFF LEARN TO EFFINGS HYDRO OR HUNT TO FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Destroyers !!!!! Also - Carriers - keep up the amazings :) atleast THEY KNOW how to scout and kill stuff. Hey fellow "Alpha Tester", this video will explain everything: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #10 Posted April 1, 2018 I used to slot hydro on my german cruisers, but I switched back to DFAA. And surprisingly I actually get a lot of CV games, particularily in the tier IX-X bracket. My best guess would be that a lot of people are playing their hightier CVs to get the insignia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #11 Posted April 1, 2018 What the f..? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #12 Posted April 1, 2018 A cruisers' role is air defense, not inconveniencing DDs. That's the job of the CV. Also if you remove DFAA at high tiers T10 cruisers are [edited] because lol AP bombs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #13 Posted April 1, 2018 If they would allow cruisers to mount Defensive AA AND Hydro at the same time in different slots then it would benefit cruisers a fair bit, wishful thinking of course as WG doesn't have much regard for cruisers. Plus Defensive AA has a simple counter as @Sargento_YO said a CV driver with any skill will just wait which makes a mockery of some of the CV apologists arguments about how weak they are. As @El2aZeR just posted Def AA is vital to stand a chance of surviving AP bombings by US CV's, but it's a slim chance as deletion by AP bombs is a very real risk even on ship like Des Moines. To the OP, you do realise that Hydro has:- Limited range Limited duration Longish cooldown If you honestly expect cruisers to be your bodyguard while you sail around in Yamato with 26km gun range (+20% with spotter up) then you're deranged. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POND] Horin728 Players 559 posts 7,130 battles Report post #14 Posted April 1, 2018 Do you really want to know why every cruiser is using it? Because it is stock. Imagine that the hydro would be stock consumable... Oh the glory for CVs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #15 Posted April 1, 2018 -Was about to post a sort of constructive answer. -Checks date. -Laughs. -Rereads the post. -Checks the OP's other content. -Confused. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NOHE] Turnipsi [NOHE] Players 243 posts 11,593 battles Report post #16 Posted April 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Appadang said: How come EVERY CRUISER - INLCUDING GERMANS - use Anti-aircraft consumable... Somewhere, at some time, another BB captain asked the same thing about hydroacoustic search. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oely001 Players 3,015 posts 7,832 battles Report post #17 Posted April 1, 2018 49 minutes ago, Sargento_YO said: Yeah, Defensive fire consumable should be removed. I wish everyone who uses it gets insta banned. ...says the player who has 52% of his battles on CVs with a 72% winrate. Play more sealclubber Zuiho, there is no DefAAA on Tier V. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #18 Posted April 1, 2018 27 minutes ago, BeauNidl3 said: a CV driver with any skill will just wait which makes a mockery of some of the CV apologists arguments about how weak they are. I would just like to note that you can also just wait until the enemy has closed to ~3km before you activate DFAA. If you run premium consumables and force it on cd after you killed all planes you'll easily have another charge ready by the time the CV returns. Too often do I see idiots wasting their DFAA as soon as I enter their bubble, as if they actually believe I will not simply turn around and leave then. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #19 Posted April 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, Oely001 said: ...says the player who has 52% of his battles on CVs with a 72% winrate. Play more sealclubber Zuiho, there is no DefAAA on Tier V. Error 404: Sarcasm detection not found. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-A] cherry2blost [BAD-A] Beta Tester 2,078 posts 22,300 battles Report post #20 Posted April 1, 2018 I usually ask who has AAA consumables, stick near them and protect them to the best of my abilities..... Hats off to the Cruisers that DO take AAA saved my arse more than once ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FMW] OddyB Players 118 posts Report post #21 Posted April 1, 2018 I am one of the Players who have Fully configured AA Cruisers, I sacrificed lovely Cpt skills for BFT AFT . I think of what selfish skills I could have spent the 10pts on that would benefit me more than my team, because you got sod all xp for shooting planes down! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] 000_LULU_000 Players 66 posts 19,803 battles Report post #22 Posted April 1, 2018 Vor 3 Stunden, Appadang sagte: There are NO CV'S farting around UNLESS YOU PLAY TIER 4-6 ? i must have a streak then. sometimes it happens there is always a cv ingame when i play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #23 Posted April 1, 2018 2 hours ago, El2aZeR said: A cruisers' role is air defense Problem is that most cruisers are pretty at it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FDUSH] Sargento_YO Players 1,476 posts 12,665 battles Report post #24 Posted April 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Oely001 said: ...says the player who has 52% of his battles on CVs with a 72% winrate. Play more sealclubber Zuiho, there is no DefAAA on Tier V. Lol, yeah, I'm inserting the insult as requested for the OP. Go back to Centauri prime! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,107 battles Report post #25 Posted April 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Appadang said: How come EVERY CRUISER - INLCUDING GERMANS - use Anti-aircraft consumable when they FULLY KNOW that because of Wargamings intelligence when it comes to balance - There are NO CV'S farting around UNLESS YOU PLAY TIER 4-6 ? High level cruisers (7-10) HAVE NO FLIPPING IDEA on how to hydro - YES, SOME cruisers use radar - but WHY THE EFF are noone using hydro and FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF kill those FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF destroyers so our battleships can advance? (PS: Battleships ! STOP FISHING!) Either REMOVE the ANTI-AIR consumable at tier 7-10 or FFFFFFFFFF LEARN TO EFFINGS HYDRO OR HUNT TO FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Destroyers !!!!! Also - Carriers - keep up the amazings :) atleast THEY KNOW how to scout and kill stuff. Dear god this game is full of xx%#!+ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites