[HEROZ] GulvkluderGuld Players 3,467 posts 22,096 battles Report post #51 Posted May 21, 2018 10 hours ago, creamgravy said: Yep, Fushun is another stealthy gunboat with great torps and smoke. No idea why it doesn't have Anshan surface detection etc, it might even be better than Hsienyang... I've messed around with GM quite a bit and you can certainly yolo large groups just to kill off one DD and survive, this includes most tier 8 DDs. (assuming a stealth radar CL like Belfast doesn't show up) A 'bow on' GM spamming 6 guns is very hard to hit. Esp when they mess around speed, rock forwards/backwards, reverse wiggle etc. The only problem comes from feeling unbeatable and you stick around to take on 5+ ships on your own when you should really just run. GM is way more powerful than OG Kiev imo. Well I have the Anshan too, and both are great boats much superior to the Gnevny they are based on due to torp range. A case of reverse russian bias Also I dont doubt GM can chase down dds, as I've done it a few times myself. The problem is rather, how do you get out afterward? Maybe it was the DW torps that made me uncomfortable, but I played the GM very conservatively. You may get the dd, but if it costs most of your hp, is that worthwhile? GM never gave me that feeling of being unbeatable, maybe because of the constant awareness that I can get smoke rushed any time and torped to oblivion. Khabarovsk on the other hand, when you have BBs and shimas spamming torps at you (since they cant reach anything else), that is an unbeatable ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EsaTuunanen Beta Tester 3,552 posts 8,863 battles Report post #52 Posted May 22, 2018 On 5/20/2018 at 8:48 PM, loppantorkel said: You're probably not playing it correctly then... Turret angles are godlike for hunting down dds. Smoke shooting isn't necessary against competent dds since you'll gun them down regardless. You're the one that should charge the smoke and gun them down with that heavenly DPM. It's so good it's boring and I see a nerf incoming. I once calculated from rate of fire etc and IIRC Gadjah is basically 2/3rds as good flame thrower as Atlanta... With perma-smoke. And extreme stealth for T7 gunboat while neither being the slowest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akula971 Beta Tester 1,059 posts 14,810 battles Report post #53 Posted May 24, 2018 Well I have to say I've taken a shine to the Z-39. With one of the new commanders in it, it is a fun ship to play. edit:Z-39 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #54 Posted May 24, 2018 On 5/23/2018 at 12:38 AM, EsaTuunanen said: I once calculated from rate of fire etc and IIRC Gadjah is basically 2/3rds as good flame thrower as Atlanta... With perma-smoke. And extreme stealth for T7 gunboat while neither being the slowest. They really need to nerf it or switch it with the hsienyang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ADRIA] Ysterpyp Players 1,490 posts 25,838 battles Report post #55 Posted May 25, 2018 Spoiler Belfast 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #56 Posted May 25, 2018 13 hours ago, Akula971 said: T-39 You mean Z-39 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TS1] Runegrem Players 658 posts 8,162 battles Report post #57 Posted May 27, 2018 On 2018-05-25 at 10:44 AM, _DeathWing_ said: You mean Z-39 This is the biggest flaw with the German DDs. They don't have any proper names, just an alphanumerical designation. It's so easy to forget which letter and which number goes with which DD. It'd be like naming the Russian DDs after their project numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seran_seran Players 6 posts Report post #58 Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) *edited* Edited December 17, 2018 by Daxeno Spam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #59 Posted December 13, 2018 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RUFL] Jagod Players 291 posts 5,100 battles Report post #60 Posted December 14, 2018 More than that, seems like a bot to me. Posts something only superficially related to the topic and adds some links in the end. See also the recently unpinned (yay) thread about stealth firing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #61 Posted December 15, 2018 On 12/13/2018 at 7:09 PM, El2aZeR said: I like this one more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Teob_ Players 1,625 posts 14,901 battles Report post #62 Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/14/2018 at 10:16 AM, Jagod said: More than that, seems like a bot to me. Posts something only superficially related to the topic and adds some links in the end. See also the recently unpinned (yay) thread about stealth firing. Next you're gonna tell me that there are no hot singles in my area looking to date me either... No matter, once my Nigerian gold rolls in, I am sure things will change. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RUFL] Jagod Players 291 posts 5,100 battles Report post #63 Posted December 17, 2018 Your great-great cousin's inheritance should help you bridge the gap though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites