Kronshtadt in very Early Preview

[Hayashio]

VMF Kronshtadt - sort of Russian sort of Cruiser

 

Hey guys, another one of these "early" previews. I have some nice screenshots, as well of the ship as of it's armour, a quick summary of all the stats at the moment. Be aware that due to the nature of this PTS preview, everything is subject to change!

 

 

 

 

 

 

So if you missed the whole Kronshtadt talk, she's basically a Russian version of the Gneisenau (or Scharnhorst, depending on which side you're on) class Battlecruisers, but was to be stronger, faster, and better armed. 2 of these "проекта 69" (Projekt 69) type ships were planned but cancelled due to the outbreak of the Second World War.  The unusual characteristics of the ship in game is the fact that it is classed as a cruiser, despite it's armament being that of a battleship.

 

Stats-Table

HEALTH	59800 hitpoints
ARMOUR	15-330mm
TORPEDO REDUCTION	34%
WEAPONRY	-
MAIN BATTERY	3x305mm
RELOAD	20s
TRAVERSE TIME	35.3s for 180
MAX DISPERSION	242m
HE DMG	4200
HE VELOCITY	920m/s
FIRE CHANCE	24%
AP DMG	9000
AP VELOCITY	900m/s
FIRE RANGE	18.2km
SECONDARY BATTERIES	4x100mm, 4x152mm @ 5km
AA	-
SHORT RANGE	31dps @ 1.2km
MID RANGE	85dps @ 3.5km
LONG RANGE DP	59dps @ 5.0km
MANEUVERABILITY	-
MAX SPEED	33.5kn
TURN CIRCLE	840m
RUDDER SHIFT	14.9s
CONCEALMENT	14.3km Sea, 13.0km Air, 11.4km upon firing from smoke

 

 

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ARMOUR KEY

 

CONSUMABLES:

 

 

Borrowed from the Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya. Same Amount of uses, same cooldown, same active time.

Seems to be about average in comparison to other cruiser heals.

 

All in all she looks like a tier 9 Scharnhorst with a lot of consumables, namely the Russian limited damacon, as well as a choice of hydro/defAA a spotter plane and a heal. She has slightly more hitpoints, and is classed as a cruiser. She also has those interesting 305mm guns, making her unique as a cruiser. I'm not sure what WG has planned for this quite peculiar ship - whether it'll be a reward ship, or perhaps one people can purchase for free xp/money -, but we will most likely find out in the upcoming updates!

 

 

[theta0123]

Its not the Alaska class, thats for sure! Some weird stats, seems a bit underwhelming?

[BarthalomewKuma]

I'm almost sure it's free xp ship that is finally not another BB (thank GOD). 

 

I like BB's but some T9 printer that isn't yet another bb would be WELCOME.

 

I like stats in general 305mm on cruiser, AA seems very weak, even with defensive AA it may struggle. Also no RADAR so it's not like OP, because losing Russian radar seems like pretty damn big deal.

 

Btw concelament looks extremelly GOOD compared to donskoi / moskva if it's base before camo/skills/module. 

 

And of course Russian AP, overmatching light cruisers (RN and new US line prolly) :)).

 

What I can predict is since concelament is great , AP velocity is strong, dispersion is cruiser after all - it's gonna punish minotaurs etc regardless of angling.

 

Edit : Dispersion though 242 m ... at frigging 18.2km ? OK that is not good dispersion at all. Looks like Graff Spee deja vu.

[Hayashio]

19 minutes ago, BarthalomewKuma said:

 

Edit : Dispersion though 242 m ... at frigging 18.2km ? OK that is not good dispersion at all. Looks like Graff Spee deja vu.

 

A Scharnhorst at tier 9, but as a cruiser!

[BarthalomewKuma]

7 minutes ago, Strefs said:

 

A Scharnhorst at tier 9, but as a cruiser!

Idk man sure Wiki says it's russian Scharnhorst, but differences are massive - no torps, no turtleback (i think so) . You get cruiser consumables aswell.

 

Generally speaking i'm really interested in that thing  - as I quiet enjoy moskva. And Moskva that can print money and overmatch light cruisers sounds even better :).

 

Btw man do you have any idea what plating it will have ? standard 25mm russian plating or at least 27mm or any different ?

[Affeks]

BB dispersion? Yeaaaaa NO THANKS!

[Affeks]

34 minutes ago, BarthalomewKuma said:

Edit : Dispersion though 242 m ... at frigging 18.2km ? OK that is not good dispersion at all. Looks like Graff Spee deja vu.

Graf Spee has better disperision. Graf Spee has a perfect middle ground between BBs and Cruisers dispersion wise. 10% worse Hit ratio than cruisers, but 10% better than BBs.... Kronny on the other hand has 20% worse than cruisers.... so yeah, its even worse than some BBs like Iowa or Missouri.

[Hayashio]

11 minutes ago, BarthalomewKuma said:

Idk man sure Wiki says it's russian Scharnhorst, but differences are massive - no torps, no turtleback (i think so) . You get cruiser consumables aswell.

 

Generally speaking i'm really interested in that thing  - as I quiet enjoy moskva. And Moskva that can print money and overmatch light cruisers sounds even better :).

 

Btw man do you have any idea what plating it will have ? standard 25mm russian plating or at least 27mm or any different ?

Oh, I thought that was implied, I mean, a cruiser with good, strong armour? ;)

I'll check the exact armour after the CB sessions.

[Major_Damage225]

I hope Kronny will be sucess because it then paves the road for Alaska, B65 and the rest that will follow 

[El2aZeR]

lol AA

 

It seems like the year of the CV has finally arrived. 

[Hayashio]

 

25mm all-round

 

 

No turtleback

 

@BartholomewKuma

[wilkatis_LV]

1 hour ago, Strefs said:

Seems to be at the higher end of the cruiser heals.

Actually looks like that same normal 0.5% max-hp per tick heal, just that it has more max-hp than others

 

 

 

To be fair... looking at those stats it just looks like a BB who takes up a cruisers slot in MM. Just look at that accuracy...

[Hayashio]

4 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said:

Actually looks like that same normal 0.5% max-hp per tick heal, just that it has more max-hp than others

I stand corrected.

[Affeks]

37 minutes ago, Major_Damage225 said:

I hope Kronny will be sucess because it then paves the road for Alaska, B65 and the rest that will follow 

^^^^^^^^

THIS! So many cool CBs/Super cruisers/Battlecruisers of this type that fit the bill.

 

[ClappingLollies]

Damage sponge. HE will do lots of dmg. AP will do massive dmg. Limited repair parties. (Cruisers really don't need that) BB's however should have limited repairs.

 

Does not look interesting to me at all in currant form. Hopefully it gets better. Alot better than that 

 

[WeGreedy]

It's a nice start, most likely to get some tweaks before being released.

So I'm really looking forward to a NON-BATTLESHIP free exp ship! (IF it will be free exp...)

[Affeks]

2 minutes ago, SeeteufeI said:

So I'm really looking forward to a NON-BATTLESHIP free exp ship! (IF it will be free exp...)

- Kronshtadt

- Cruiser

I got bad news

[WeGreedy]

15 minutes ago, Affeks said:

I got bad news

Not for me. ;)

[wilkatis_LV]

1 hour ago, SeeteufeI said:

So I'm really looking forward to a NON-BATTLESHIP free exp ship! (IF it will be free exp...)

Just look at those stats, it's a BB with t5 guns & AA, t7 armour and t9 MM. That's it, it's just a weaker BB in cruisers slot.

[Lieut_Gruber]

8 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said:

Just look at those stats, it's a BB with t5 guns & AA, t7 armour and t9 MM. That's it, it's just a weaker BB in cruisers slot.

Or a cruiser with t11 guns, and t11 armour?

[wilkatis_LV]

4 hours ago, Lieut_Gruber said:

Or a cruiser with t11 guns, and t11 armour?

Ok, cruiser with big t11 guns.

Great armour? 25mm plating (which some cruisers already have better) - tell me again, how many t7 to t10 BBs can't overmatch it? KGV, DoY, Lyon and Scharnhorst, a rather short list. Main belt will only serve to arm AP fuses on broadside shots (and maybe protect from DD AP), and there's no reason to go for angled main belt when you can lolpen its bow / stern.

 

Other things you seem to have overlooked:

242m dispersion at 18.2km (base stats below taken from wiki, at 18.2km dispersion calculated as it scales linearly and are approximate /// only "silver" ships compared, no premiums)

• Nagato 231m at 20.46km (around 205m at 18.2km)
• Amagi 227m at 19.88km (around 208m at 18.2km)
• Izumo 240m at 21.68km (around 201m at 18.2km)
• Yamato 275m at 26.63km (around 188m at 18.2km)
• Colorado 231m at 18.83km (around 223m at at 18.2km)
• North Carolina 271m at 23.26km (around 212m at 18.2km)
• Iowa 272m at 21.23km (around 233m at 18.2km)
• Montana 296m at 23.65km (around 228m at 18.2km)
• Gneisenau 257m at 19.55km (around 239m at 18.2km)
• Friedrich der Grosse 265m at 20.32km (around 237m at 18.2km)
• Grosser Kurfurst 267m at 20.61km (around 236m at 18.2km)
• Lyon 248m at 18.62km (around 242m at 18.2km)
• Richelieu 313m at 25.27km (around 225m at 18.2km)
• Alsace 264m at 20.3km (around 237m at 18.2km)
• Republic 321m at 26.08km (around 224m at 18.2km)

So out of all the "silver" BBs Kronshtadt could meet only the Bismark (maybe, with a large emphasis on the maybe part, Lyon aswell) would have worse dispersion

 

And since I spent longer than expected time listing those, here are other things without examples (I'm sure you can look up those examples / comparisons by yourself):

35.3s turret traverse

840m turning circle

14.9s rudder shift

13.0km (10.3km at full stealth) air detectability

 

Yes, most definitely a cruiser.

 

And so you don't have to ask - surface concealment at 14.3km base / 10.99km full stealth seems to be one of the better ones for high tier "cruisers", only 40m worse than Monarch.

[Gojuadorai]

PLEASE WG 

 

stop with the gamedesign:

"we may not alow good players to delete idiots"

 

RNG is not the savior of the noobs, it the devil in disguise!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[KarmaQU_EU]

Looks more balanced now. I'm ok with it.

[darkstar73]

2 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said:

Ok, cruiser with big t11 guns.

Great armour? 25mm plating (which some cruisers already have better) - tell me again, how many t7 to t10 BBs can't overmatch it? KGV, DoY, Lyon and Scharnhorst, a rather short list. Main belt will only serve to arm AP fuses on broadside shots (and maybe protect from DD AP), and there's no reason to go for angled main belt when you can lolpen its bow / stern.

 

Other things you seem to have overlooked:

242m dispersion at 18.2km (base stats below taken from wiki, at 18.2km dispersion calculated as it scales linearly and are approximate /// only "silver" ships compared, no premiums)

• Nagato 231m at 20.46km (around 205m at 18.2km)
• Amagi 227m at 19.88km (around 208m at 18.2km)
• Izumo 240m at 21.68km (around 201m at 18.2km)
• Yamato 275m at 26.63km (around 188m at 18.2km)
• Colorado 231m at 18.83km (around 223m at at 18.2km)
• North Carolina 271m at 23.26km (around 212m at 18.2km)
• Iowa 272m at 21.23km (around 233m at 18.2km)
• Montana 296m at 23.65km (around 228m at 18.2km)
• Gneisenau 257m at 19.55km (around 239m at 18.2km)
• Friedrich der Grosse 265m at 20.32km (around 237m at 18.2km)
• Grosser Kurfurst 267m at 20.61km (around 236m at 18.2km)
• Lyon 248m at 18.62km (around 242m at 18.2km)
• Richelieu 313m at 25.27km (around 225m at 18.2km)
• Alsace 264m at 20.3km (around 237m at 18.2km)
• Republic 321m at 26.08km (around 224m at 18.2km)

So out of all the "silver" BBs Kronshtadt could meet only the Bismark (maybe, with a large emphasis on the maybe part, Lyon aswell) would have worse dispersion

 

And since I spent longer than expected time listing those, here are other things without examples (I'm sure you can look up those examples / comparisons by yourself):

35.3s turret traverse

840m turning circle

14.9s rudder shift

13.0km (10.3km at full stealth) air detectability

 

Yes, most definitely a cruiser.

 

And so you don't have to ask - surface concealment at 14.3km base / 10.99km full stealth seems to be one of the better ones for high tier "cruisers", only 40m worse than Monarch.

Looks like a Battlecruiser to me. It´s hard to call Kronshtdt Battleship nor Heavy Cruiser in game. So since we don´t have BC in game so do i think WG have done a pretty damned good job to fit it in a cruiser role :) Can´t wait to get that one :)) 

[Gojuadorai]

2 minutes ago, darkstar73 said:

Looks like a Battlecruiser to me. It´s hard to call Kronshtdt Battleship nor Heavy Cruiser in game. So since we don´t have BC in game so do i think WG have done a pretty damned good job to fit it in a cruiser role :) Can´t wait to get that one :)) 

 

whats wrong with you?

 

in what world is  that looking like a good idea?

 

- nearly none of the advantages of cruisers 

- worse drawbacks that BB's on some parts esp the guns

 

if it come out that way (which is certainly not thank god) i'd not touch that thing with a 1000ft pole.....