Cheats!!!

[Kampfbaer_777]

Hi Guys

 

First I dont want to blame someone for cheats. I'm just wondering is Wargaming using a program to detect cheating programs or not? I have been reading some old forum posts and I found out that some pleople just dont believe that there are cheaters....I know with experience it way easier to hit citadels and so on but someone who believes that nobody is cheating is just living in an other world.

Actually I think there are more cheaters around in wows than we all think. And forsure its hard to detect them because if someone is using cheats and he/she is not always aiming exactly in the middle of the ship wargaming support will not detect them while watching a replay.

I played a lot of different games in my live and there are always cheaters around specialy in our days are a lot more people cheating than 5 to 10 years ago....forsure in WOWS it can be skill or cheats you never know it its a small gap between....but I found during research a cheat which is showing nearby people behind islands....which can give you a big advantage but also this one is hard to detect by players and in replayes even replayes have points showing the overwatcher where the perfect cita point is.

 

So the best thing to eliminate that would be a software protection. Now back to my question does somebody know if wargaming is using such software for WOWS?

 

have fun and play fair guys.

 

[GarrusBrutus]

I dont know anything about WG using something to detect illegal software but after all the battles i have played I have not come across someone who is obviously cheating.

So either all cheaters are using it really smart and not too noticable or there are only a few who I've luckily never met.

And yes, like most of us ive played numerous games of all sorts and all of them had cheaters in them.

But in, for example, Battlefield it was very obvious if someone was cheating.  Shooting from behind corners or headshots from ridiculous distances and things like that...

For WoWs on the other hand it isnt so clear if someone is cheating or not. So thats probably why I have never felt that my opponent was cheating but more often than not they where just lucky with their RNG.

[lameoll]

IF there are cheats it would be aim asists. and as far as i know if you know how to dodge those wont be usefull annyway.

 

[Kampfbaer_777]

 

4 minutes ago, lameoll said:

IF there are cheats it would be aim asists. and as far as i know if you know how to dodge those wont be usefull annyway.

 

its easy to use aimbots specialy in close range it will help you if you dont miss a single cita and longrange forsure is also more luck but aimbot would help you specialy for unexperienced guys.

9 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

I dont know anything about WG using something to detect illegal software but after all the battles i have played I have not come across someone who is obviously cheating.

So either all cheaters are using it really smart and not too noticable or there are only a few who I've luckily never met.

And yes, like most of us ive played numerous games of all sorts and all of them had cheaters in them.

But in, for example, Battlefield it was very obvious if someone was cheating.  Shooting from behind corners or headshots from ridiculous distances and things like that...

For WoWs on the other hand it isnt so clear if someone is cheating or not. So thats probably why I have never felt that my opponent was cheating but more often than not they where just lucky with their RNG.

yes thats why you never met a cheater because you can realy say it its maybe a good player maybe a lucky day or maybe a cheater...

[GarrusBrutus]

1 minute ago, Kampfbaer_das_Original said:

yes thats why you never met a cheater because you can realy say it its maybe a good player maybe a lucky day or maybe a cheater...

Yeah so it does not bother me at all. Ofcourse I get deleted every once in a while but most of the time its my own fault. Ofcourse I eat massive damage from incredible distance every once in a while. But never have I stared at my screen saying 'That was impossible, has got to be a cheater'. But I would be interested in knowing if wargaming actually 'catches' cheaters with some CIA-software or something.

[Commander_Cornflakes]

Vor 57 Minuten, Kampfbaer_das_Original sagte:

I'm just wondering is Wargaming using a program to detect cheating programs or not?

Yes. There already have been a few ban waves because of forbidden modifications.

[Kampfbaer_777]

Just now, Commander_Cornflakes said:

Yes. There already have been a few ban waves because of forbidden modifications.

and how did they recognize it .....the bans have been bans of streamers not?

 

[Commander_Cornflakes]

Gerade eben, Kampfbaer_das_Original sagte:

and how did they recognize it .....the bans have been bans of streamers not?

 

Many players cried in the forum and on facebook about having been banned

As far as I remember, few streamers were banned too. Can't say who though.

[GarrusBrutus]

4 minutes ago, Commander_Cornflakes said:

Yes. There already have been a few ban waves because of forbidden modifications.

Now if only they could build on that and ban some bots.

[Kampfbaer_777]

1 minute ago, Commander_Cornflakes said:

Many players cried in the forum and on facebook about having been banned

As far as I remember, few streamers were banned too. Can't say who though.

are you sure that it was not world of tanks??

 

[lameoll]

20 minutes ago, Kampfbaer_das_Original said:

its easy to use aimbots specialy in close range it will help you if you dont miss a single cita and longrange forsure is also more luck but aimbot would help you specialy for unexperienced guys.

well ofc you can have that but in this game where RNG is a big factor the players who already know where to aim because of experience basicly have a build in aimbot then.

the only thing that will do is keep the player dumb. it does not provide annything you can not achieve with normal skill.

 

[Kampfbaer_777]

1 minute ago, lameoll said:

well ofc you can have that but in this game where RNG is a big factor the players who already know where to aim because of experience basicly have a build in aimbot then.

the only thing that will do is keep the player dumb. it does not provide annything you can not achieve with normal skill.

 

Well wouldnt say that using aimbot is forsure more perfect than human can be because its directly calculated with ingame datas but forsure its not like in a shooter where its a huge difference

 

[Commander_Cornflakes]

Vor 2 Minuten, Kampfbaer_das_Original sagte:

are you sure that it was not world of tanks??

 

Absolutely sure, yes

 

[ColonelPete]

WoWs is checking all running processes.

As they started that, a lot of people came running to the forum complaining about getting flagged.

[BeauNidl3]

The only thing that I've seen (and clanmates have seen after being sunk while I'm still alive in DD) is very suspicious torpedo dodging as soon as they hit the water, this is from an unspotted DD. Yes people WASD hack, I do too, but when someone is holding a steady course for some time then WASD's as soon as the torps are fired it's very suspicious. Before people go on about Priority Target blinking I routinely swap torps to guns and back repeatedly so any blinking isn't a real indication.

One of the cheats available in a certain programme, that I won't name on here, displays the torpedo tracks as soon as they're in the water (unspotted) from their origin and I'm certain some people use it to see when torpedoes are launched.

[Kampfbaer_777]

17 minutes ago, Commander_Cornflakes said:

Absolutely sure, yes

 

thx didnt know that

[Kampfbaer_777]

where is the list with allowed mods?

 

[Commander_Cornflakes]

Vor 2 Minuten, Kampfbaer_das_Original sagte:

where is the list with allowed mods?

 

https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/forum/493-mod-section/

[GarrusBrutus]

You cant use any programs to cheat the position you put yourself in, the prediction of movements from the enemies as well as your teammates and how to read the flow of the game.

And these factors contribute more to being an above average player than just your aim.

[Kampfbaer_777]

4 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

You cant use any programs to cheat the position you put yourself in, the prediction of movements from the enemies as well as your teammates and how to read the flow of the game.

And these factors contribute more to being an above average player than just your aim.

forsure you can, its possible in internatinal played big esport games so forsure someone is able to do it here dont think that the protection is sooo good...

 

[bug]

Dont know if I should write this, but its common knowledge in a group of people. So why not.

There is and always has been ways to unfairly gain an upper hand against other players in online games.

For the publisher or owner of this game. it is very important that players do not think these cheats are common, or that other players (always may) fekk them with their cheats.

Once a game is known to be hacked or that there are publicly known that there are ways to cheat, its walue drops fast.

Money, you see, money is important.

You will never see an real official list of reasons for banned mods or add-ons, as it would mean game is not safe, and game is not worth investing in.

They also indirectly by banning oficially mods reveal veaknesses other programmers can exploit, or buy exploits.

They need to block all attempts of hacks as fast as they can, anfd hope they never face a hack they cant patxh without changing the core of the program. At least before it is known out there, in the player base.

 

So, they officially ban mods, and players, if it gets so big players and investors start noticing.

Else they try to fix it as fast as crap before it gets out.

 

just my two euros based on my studying crisis theory and media theory.

edit: I have also studied programming (3 years)at lower levels at the university.

[robihr]

sure.. there are cheats for this game. but they are way more useless than cheats in other games.

 

example:

 

aimbot in csgo gives you insta kill (headshot). or with wallhack you can see people behind walls and shoot through them.

 

in wows aim assist shows where to aim to hit mid ship if player continues to move that way for 5-10 seconds (at least on youtube video that i saw). so why it isnt that useful? it is usually most heavily armored part of the ship, so with angling you can negate lot of damage, with constantly changing directions it becomes useless cause it is easy to dodge and with rng even if you are full broadside there is chance you will not get deleted. if you are full broadside and are moving in one direction while spotted for 10 seconds you can expect to be deleted cause it is rather easy to aim at such target even without aim assist.

 

wallhack (or seeing through islands) isnt useful cause ship first needs to be spotted (dont think server sends you info about other ships if you are not spotting them). so if ship is spotted behind island, with ingame aim lock you can hit it if you just aim at certain distance below player name if terrain allows you. you cant hit through islands if terrain doesnt allow you or if enemy ship isnt spotted (with or without cheats).

 

 

so overall cheats arent that useful in wows and it can be easily countered by actually learning game mechanics. i could even say that cheaters may even play worse than someone who bothered to watch couple of tutorials from youtube.

[Gojuadorai]

10 hours ago, Kampfbaer_das_Original said:

Hi Guys

 

First I dont want to blame someone for cheats.

lol yeah sure....

 

10 hours ago, Kampfbaer_das_Original said:

I'm just wondering is Wargaming using a program to detect cheating programs or not?

 not known but probably

 

10 hours ago, Kampfbaer_das_Original said:

I have been reading some old forum posts and I found out that some pleople just dont believe that there are cheaters....I know with experience it way easier to hit citadels and so on but someone who believes that nobody is cheating is just living in an other world.

are they?  sry but the only thing that is a cheat in this game is the  "modcheatcollection" warpack....

which you honestly dont need to concern yourself with cause everyone using that crap will perform badly compared to a legit "unicum" player.

the basic assumtion that people do "better" with those autoaim crap that flies arround is bollocks

 

10 hours ago, Kampfbaer_das_Original said:

Actually I think there are more cheaters around in wows than we all think.

thats the basicpotato assumption.

try there are more legit better players arround than youre willing to admit cause it would hurt the selfassesment of your skills.....

 

10 hours ago, Kampfbaer_das_Original said:

And forsure its hard to detect them because if someone is using cheats and he/she is not always aiming exactly in the middle of the ship wargaming support will not detect them while watching a replay.

WHAT???? 

 

10 hours ago, Kampfbaer_das_Original said:

I played a lot of different games in my live and there are always cheaters around specialy in our days are a lot more people cheating than 5 to 10 years ago....forsure in WOWS it can be skill or cheats you never know it its a small gap between....but I found during research a cheat which is showing nearby people behind islands....which can give you a big advantage but also this one is hard to detect by players and in replayes even replayes have points showing the overwatcher where the perfect cita point is.

 

So the best thing to eliminate that would be a software protection. Now back to my question does somebody know if wargaming is using such software for WOWS?

 

have fun and play fair guys.

 

sry i feel like you have no basic understand ing what youre able to do with "cheats" in wows and what you simply cant do cause you would need to hack WG's servers.....

 

also youre referring to a mod as a cheat, the mod is now banned (and imho rightfully so),

but it did little what experianced player couldnt alredy do  with the now fixed M doubble press, a plane or just experiance if you can see the name tag.....

 

if i were you i'd spend less time on concering myself with wows cheats and improve my game since you outperform "aim assist users" quite quickly if you dont suck at this game.

[Mr_Tayto]

The only thing I'm not keen on is that "allowed" mod that gives you an 'X' on your minimal for aiming point. It's probably only useful for shooting stationary targets in smoke, but it smacks a bit cheap to me.

[Kampfbaer_777]

1 hour ago, Gojuadorai said:

lol yeah sure....

 

 not known but probably

 

are they?  sry but the only thing that is a cheat in this game is the  "modcheatcollection" warpack....

which you honestly dont need to concern yourself with cause everyone using that crap will perform badly compared to a legit "unicum" player.

the basic assumtion that people do "better" with those autoaim crap that flies arround is bollocks

 

thats the basicpotato assumption.

try there are more legit better players arround than youre willing to admit cause it would hurt the selfassesment of your skills.....

 

WHAT???? 

 

 

sry i feel like you have no basic understand ing what youre able to do with "cheats" in wows and what you simply cant do cause you would need to hack WG's servers.....

 

also youre referring to a mod as a cheat, the mod is now banned (and imho rightfully so),

but it did little what experianced player couldnt alredy do  with the now fixed M doubble press, a plane or just experiance if you can see the name tag.....

 

if i were you i'd spend less time on concering myself with wows cheats and improve my game since you outperform "aim assist users" quite quickly if you dont suck at this game.

Wow....are you serious....? First a cheater can always outperform you if he/she is not stupid. The gap between cheater skill and normal player skill is quiet small nearly not existing. 

 

You the only reason for your useless post is most obviously increasing the post number on your forum account.

 

Im not blaming a single person for cheating in this game so just stop writting usless meanless [edited].  or come back with serious posts...and something about wargamings anticheat system thats the only thing we are actually talking about here......

 

 

Ah btw cheating is possible without hacking wargaming servers otherwise they are hacker....just saying position datas have to be send in advance to your pc and its easy to show them before you should see them.