Jaki_AJK Players 159 posts 14,967 battles Report post #1 Posted March 3, 2018 I'm low on credits and am considering the below options. I have 5000 doubloons and following choices 1) T7 Prem DD(Sims/ Leningrad/Blyskawica) 2) T10 Perma camo(Montana/Khabarovsk) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #2 Posted March 3, 2018 Depends on what you like. If you like tier X games, sure go for Prem Camo. If you prefer T7 go for the premium ship 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #3 Posted March 3, 2018 Which ship do you like more? Buy or upgrade that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44smok Players 4,367 posts 16,858 battles Report post #4 Posted March 3, 2018 Premium camo is not a good value for money with the current free-camo-spam economy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaki_AJK Players 159 posts 14,967 battles Report post #5 Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, 159Hunter said: Depends on what you like. If you like tier X games, sure go for Prem Camo. If you prefer T7 go for the premium ship I mean, what is more enjoyable and easy to grind credits? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmazingBeaver Beta Tester 435 posts 5,528 battles Report post #6 Posted March 3, 2018 use the gold on premium time, game provides free camos and flags if you just keep playing properly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #7 Posted March 3, 2018 If you don't know the answer yourself: Buy nothing. It's not like any of those options is going to be removed anytime soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaki_AJK Players 159 posts 14,967 battles Report post #8 Posted March 3, 2018 Just now, 44smok said: Premium camo is not a good value for money with the current free-camo-spam economy. That's true.. my buddy bought the Prem camo for yamato a while back and now regrets his decision due to hsf Camo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44smok Players 4,367 posts 16,858 battles Report post #9 Posted March 3, 2018 I'm taking more about the 900+ camos I've accumulated from all the missions, campaigns, containers etc. Even the worst of them - the French camo handed out in dozens since the previous patch - has better bonuses than any premium permacamo. 5k doubloons will be better spent on either prem ship or time. Both will give you more credits and less monotony. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #10 Posted March 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said: I mean, what is more enjoyable and easy to grind credits? It's easy: something you like more, you'll play more and thus make more money. Sure maybe less than in other ships, but maybe you don't like playing them. Earning money shouldn't feel like a grind. It's about having fun first with the added bonus of making credits I personally love my DM so I use that to make money. There are better ships to do that, but none which have the same enjoyable gameplay. Hence I bought that Camo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Strapps [TOXIC] Players 1,135 posts 5,968 battles Report post #11 Posted March 3, 2018 I can only talk about the Blys as that's the only one of your options in my port but I wouldn't really think of it as a DD now, it's more of a light smoke cruiser. I still love the ship, it was my first premium and still one of my favourites but the change of role with the removal of stealth fire coupled with it being the only Polish ship in the game* means I'd hesitate before recommending it. I've been thinking about prem camo for my Akizuki but I simply can't justify it. As mentioned, we never know when a mission will come along that gives out free camo and in the meantime I've got enough premium time and ships to stand losing a few credits when I have a bad battle. * It's got the only Polish captain so it's not good for training until you have 19 points and can build up elite commander xp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Commander_Cornflakes WG Staff, WoWs Wiki Team 3,711 posts 15,747 battles Report post #12 Posted March 3, 2018 Vor 13 Minuten, 44smok sagte: Even the worst of them - the French camo handed out in dozens since the previous patch - has better bonuses than any premium permacamo. You are wrong here. We are talking about credit gains and only Gamescom Camo beats permacamos in that point. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44smok Players 4,367 posts 16,858 battles Report post #13 Posted March 3, 2018 Still credits are only problem until some point in time so applying permanent solution to a temporary problem makes little sense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaki_AJK Players 159 posts 14,967 battles Report post #14 Posted March 4, 2018 4 hours ago, 159Hunter said: It's easy: something you like more, you'll play more and thus make more money. Sure maybe less than in other ships, but maybe you don't like playing them. Earning money shouldn't feel like a grind. It's about having fun first with the added bonus of making credits I personally love my DM so I use that to make money. There are better ships to do that, but none which have the same enjoyable gameplay. Hence I bought that Camo. That's tough.. I enjoy every ship. Fletcher for torps/guns. Khabarovsk for gunboating. Montana for big guns (my first T10 too) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaki_AJK Players 159 posts 14,967 battles Report post #15 Posted March 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Strappster said: I can only talk about the Blys as that's the only one of your options in my port but I wouldn't really think of it as a DD now, it's more of a light smoke cruiser. I still love the ship, it was my first premium and still one of my favourites but the change of role with the removal of stealth fire coupled with it being the only Polish ship in the game* means I'd hesitate before recommending it. I've been thinking about prem camo for my Akizuki but I simply can't justify it. As mentioned, we never know when a mission will come along that gives out free camo and in the meantime I've got enough premium time and ships to stand losing a few credits when I have a bad battle. * It's got the only Polish captain so it's not good for training until you have 19 points and can build up elite commander xp. Yeah but commander is not a problem for me I think. Only need credits Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaki_AJK Players 159 posts 14,967 battles Report post #16 Posted March 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Commander_Cornflakes said: You are wrong here. We are talking about credit gains and only Gamescom Camo beats permacamos in that point. That's right .So do u recommend Perma camo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaki_AJK Players 159 posts 14,967 battles Report post #17 Posted March 4, 2018 3 hours ago, 44smok said: Still credits are only problem until some point in time so applying permanent solution to a temporary problem makes little sense No, I have credit problem right since I got my first T10.. and have it on a regular basis to buy new ships/modules Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Commander_Cornflakes WG Staff, WoWs Wiki Team 3,711 posts 15,747 battles Report post #18 Posted March 4, 2018 Vor 17 Minuten, Jaki_AJK sagte: That's right .So do u recommend Perma camo? I took a look at some screenshots I had saved and T10+Perma Camo gives more credits than T7 Premium Ship. So yeah, I'd recommend it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infiriel Players 508 posts 8,055 battles Report post #19 Posted March 4, 2018 I`d go with a ship. T10 rarely generate any credits, especially on standard account. T10 permacamo gives you 90k/battle of savings. My Atago (i know it`s T8, but i don`t really play T7 anymore) on the other hand brings home on avarage 250k/battle (net profit), with exp. camo rather than stock one. 1m+ also happenes a lot with wyvern, zulu, and revolution camo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #20 Posted March 4, 2018 5 hours ago, AmazingBeaver said: use the gold on premium time, game provides free camos and flags if you just keep playing properly. You get those for some ships, but chances are small you will get for exact ship you wanna play with. From what I saw had only some camos for ships T5-8, but nothing for T10 (exept Yamato). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaki_AJK Players 159 posts 14,967 battles Report post #21 Posted March 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Commander_Cornflakes said: I took a look at some screenshots I had saved and T10+Perma Camo gives more credits than T7 Premium Ship. So yeah, I'd recommend it. Can you share the screenshots please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaki_AJK Players 159 posts 14,967 battles Report post #22 Posted March 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Infiriel said: I`d go with a ship. T10 rarely generate any credits, especially on standard account. T10 permacamo gives you 90k/battle of savings. My Atago (i know it`s T8, but i don`t really play T7 anymore) on the other hand brings home on avarage 250k/battle (net profit), with exp. camo rather than stock one. 1m+ also happenes a lot with wyvern, zulu, and revolution camo Only 90k? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[H_FAN] Gnirf Players 3,293 posts 67,362 battles Report post #23 Posted March 4, 2018 7 hours ago, Jaki_AJK said: That's right .So do u recommend Perma camo? I have spent a fortune on pemacamos as the summersales etc gave me doubloons for 50%, therefor effectively halving the prize for permacamos for T10 to 2500 Gold. I have many permacamos , apart from many T10s it is mainly on T6-7 where the cost is 1000-2000 to help with the grind. I bought on KGV, and Lyon as I thought they are ships that I would play so Permacamos pays on ships that you play long enough to in the end reach 19 pointers. 11 hours ago, 44smok said: I'm taking more about the 900+ camos I've accumulated from all the missions, campaigns, containers etc. Even the worst of them - the French camo handed out in dozens since the previous patch - has better bonuses than any premium permacamo. 5k doubloons will be better spent on either prem ship or time. Both will give you more credits and less monotony. Agree that this has nullified some of my buys , have at least 1500 camos in stock. But the T10s with the 100XP gain is at least decent enough. But I did not have that situation in summer when I bought the T10 permas. And many camos came from christmas crates (500 Frosty Fir) and the Halloween crates so they are paid for in one way or the other. Camos are given today in a complete other rate than earlier when 15 Camos for a really difficult weekly 5-stage EU mission was the chance. I have bought the permacamos for the T10 not for the credits but for the perma XP as my goal is to have 19p captains on them in the long run. But the decision if you should buy permacamos is base on strategic planning and if you are not sure if you like the ship wait until you have played a few games. KGV as the last real BB in the sweetspot at T7 , I could splash 2000 on I thought and 1000 for T6 now with 50% XP gain is OK, I have it on QE also to align with my Warspite. As time is more a restraint for me now than money with a new occupation the WG has sadly? find the ideal customer in me. Therefor if you have come a bit in your WOWs career plan ahead, the credits are a problem if you grind evenly and reach higher tiers at the same time in many trees, especially if you are like me and collect everything. So i often watch Youtube and forum to see if I see ships that seems iconic, fun or "OP" or "UP" so I do not waste doubloons on the wrong ships, stock of single camos also should be taken into account. Long wall of text but each player must decide what is their main long term aim, premium time always comes first and a selected number of premiums. What is it that you need. A balanced approach is needed, if you find a few t10s that you enjoy perma camos is sound as you then save your won/bought single use camos for grind. The permacamos from missions may be different, the ones given to some T8 ships a while ago were captain Xp related if I remember correctly so that is of less value in the grind but good when the ship is readygrinded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,195 battles Report post #24 Posted March 4, 2018 I have premium camos in all my T10 ships. You can make credits without premium account with those camos. My normal T10 games are +400k profits with premium account. Makes much better credits than any T7 ships. Premium account is not bad option, specially if you have long grinds. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FishDogFoodShack Players 685 posts 5,858 battles Report post #25 Posted March 4, 2018 t10 permacamo is expensive, but the bonuses beat out any other camo in the game. Even a nonprem account can stand to make a LOT of credits at t10 with it, the combination of credit gain and service cost reduction is not given in such high numbers by any other camo in the game. I personally make significantly more credits playing on a premacamo'd t10 than any of my t7 premiums. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites