ammattimies Beta Tester 450 posts 5,507 battles Report post #1 Posted March 3, 2018 Hi again #Wargaming, it's been a while! I have credit standing by on my card, reserved for Asashio, the years-awaited premium DD of a meaningful tier with the torpedo as a main weapon! Finally! I want it already, if you need Euros for your Cyprus business, release it now because I'm checking every day and waiting... EDIT: I'll even buy a milking bundle if you insist! 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #2 Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, ammattimies said: the years-awaited premium IJN DD of a meaningful tier with the torpedo as a main weapon! That's the Harekaze I'm waiting for the T-61. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGB] Podvoisky Players 37 posts 147 battles Report post #3 Posted March 3, 2018 It could be an award/prize ship for this years big April event. last year we had the Kamikaze via Clash of the Elements Event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ammattimies Beta Tester 450 posts 5,507 battles Report post #4 Posted March 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, aboomination said: That's the Harekaze I'm waiting for the T-61. Dunno if that was in the shop someday, never saw that. Also, it's not a proper torpedo weapon if you have to sit inside all kind of silly radar ranges to be able to play it like a human, and range being so bad that you cannot reach targets that aren't sailing towards you. Where's my Assashio?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #5 Posted March 3, 2018 24 minutes ago, ammattimies said: Also, it's not a proper torpedo weapon if you have to sit inside all kind of silly radar ranges to be able to play it like a human, and range being so bad that you cannot reach targets that aren't sailing towards you. Where's my Assashio?! You're the reason she's not been released - but also the reason she's been considered in the first place Sure, you're not a troll? 2 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #6 Posted March 3, 2018 38 minutes ago, Podvoisky said: It could be an award/prize ship for this years big April event. last year we had the Kamikaze via Clash of the Elements Event. Kami was a last minute substitute after problems with what they were planning to give away and I don't see WG wanting large numbers of this ship in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmilyFara Players 1,091 posts 2,423 battles Report post #7 Posted March 3, 2018 4 hours ago, aboomination said: That's the Harekaze I'm waiting for the T-61. I also want my Dutch build German dd. Give t61 (or at least let me throw money at it!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #8 Posted March 3, 2018 4 hours ago, ammattimies said: Hi again #Wargaming, it's been a while! I have credit standing by on my card, reserved for Asashio, the years-awaited premium DD of a meaningful tier with the torpedo as a main weapon! Finally! I want it already, if you need Euros for your Cyprus business, release it now because I'm checking every day and waiting... EDIT: I'll even buy a milking bundle if you insist! WG will hopefully nerf that thing before release. Releasing ships that are broken beyond OP like this thing shouldn't be released at all. Also, this is not the DD-messiah that'll fix the BB meta, if this thing gets released, it'll take only one or two patches before BBs receive more buffs. And the only one who'll win in this scenario is WG's bank account...for a short while. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #9 Posted March 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Jethro_Grey said: WG will hopefully nerf that thing before release. Releasing ships that are broken beyond OP like this thing shouldn't be released at all. Also, this is not the DD-messiah that'll fix the BB meta, if this thing gets released, it'll take only one or two patches before BBs receive more buffs. And the only one who'll win in this scenario is WG's bank account...for a short while. Is that IJN freak DD OP? It looks hugely unbalanced. Like Kaga. It'll farm idiots but quickly go down to someone who knows how to counter. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #10 Posted March 3, 2018 39 minutes ago, Negativvv said: Is that IJN freak DD OP? It looks hugely unbalanced. Like Kaga. It'll farm idiots but quickly go down to someone who knows how to counter. True, but that's not the main issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #11 Posted March 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said: True, but that's not the main issue. Main issue as in it'll encourage the low skilled to torp snipe? Or we'll see more BB whine because they will be vs something they cannot counter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #12 Posted March 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Negativvv said: Main issue as in it'll encourage the low skilled to torp snipe? Or we'll see more BB whine because they will be vs something they cannot counter? It promotes bad gameplay and punishes good play as BBs who support and push will get punished first. The campers will camp even harder and those who have been wrecked two or three times by an Asashio will think twice whether they push and support again or do the <smart> thing and tell teamplay to frak off. We have enough campers as it is and for the most part there is no reason to camp, lets not give them one. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #13 Posted March 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said: It promotes bad gameplay and punishes good play as BBs who support and push will get punished first. The campers will camp even harder and those who have been wrecked two or three times by an Asashio will think twice whether they push and support again or do the <smart> thing and tell teamplay to frak off. We have enough campers as it is and for the most part there is no reason to camp, lets not give them one. Yeah I agree. Whilst I'm really enjoying PA DDs and their DWT I can't help but think of the impact they have on the average BB player. I literally nuked a Monarch the other day with one salvo of DW torps, I wonder what the affect it had on that poor little potatoes brain as he went from 60k to zero with nothing he could do about it. It won't occur to the potato that they should have used WASD or actually looked at the map. I probably created another BB camper that moment as he'll never come within 15km of any action ever again 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,107 battles Report post #14 Posted March 4, 2018 8 hours ago, Negativvv said: Yeah I agree. Whilst I'm really enjoying PA DDs and their DWT I can't help but think of the impact they have on the average BB player. I literally nuked a Monarch the other day with one salvo of DW torps, I wonder what the affect it had on that poor little potatoes brain as he went from 60k to zero with nothing he could do about it. It won't occur to the potato that they should have used WASD or actually looked at the map. I probably created another BB camper that moment as he'll never come within 15km of any action ever again So you telling us that poor man could not defend against something that travel to him over 40 seconds? :) you killed poor baby seal. You monster. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #15 Posted March 4, 2018 Gascogn as a fail I'm defo waiting for this ship. T-61 seems promising but I'll wait for new reviews. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #16 Posted March 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, _DeathWing_ said: Gascogn as a fail I'm defo waiting for this ship. T-61 seems promising but I'll wait for new reviews. Hasnt the T-61 been shelved, wg are too quiet about the ship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #17 Posted March 4, 2018 13 hours ago, Jethro_Grey said: It promotes bad gameplay and punishes good play as BBs who support and push will get punished first. The campers will camp even harder and those who have been wrecked two or three times by an Asashio will think twice whether they push and support again or do the <smart> thing and tell teamplay to frak off. We have enough campers as it is and for the most part there is no reason to camp, lets not give them one. Pushing and brawling BBs are already punished enough with 90% of their BB teammates usually camping and sniping in behind. I loved pushing the cap with BBs even in tier 10 games, before, nowdays, with the release of the likes of Conqueror and French BBs, because I see a lot of them spamming HE, and DW tops, with so many DDs deciding to flank instead of going for cap, I found myself doing more what I wholeheartedly hate, which is play more and more in the back with a BB. And with the tanking being barely rewarded (if its actually rewarded, because to me it seems like it isn't) I guess WG really is promoting long range combat, for all ships and the current Asashio will just bring more and more of that 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Strapps [TOXIC] Players 1,135 posts 5,968 battles Report post #18 Posted March 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Major_Damage225 said: Hasnt the T-61 been shelved, wg are too quiet about the ship I've asked several streamers who tested it and in the Warships official stream what's happening and been told by all of them that they're not allowed to say anything. It's annoying that an NDA gets slapped on after it was teased so many times, I've taken it as a sign that I already have enough premium ships and don't need any more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #19 Posted March 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, Strappster said: have enough premium ships and don't need any more. You have seen the truth. God hast spoken to you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #20 Posted March 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Strappster said: I've asked several streamers who tested it and in the Warships official stream what's happening and been told by all of them that they're not allowed to say anything. It's annoying that an NDA gets slapped on after it was teased so many times, I've taken it as a sign that I already have enough premium ships and don't need any more. I'm sure one of the reasons it went silent is how OP the streamers, flamu in particular said it was (witch it was tbh), thus making it hyped to people who thought (op premium coming, yes me want) so wg put a lid on it and are reworking it so not to have another "too OP, removed from sales" messup. Thats how i see it anyway with all this lack of info about the ship, i could be wrong though 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Strapps [TOXIC] Players 1,135 posts 5,968 battles Report post #21 Posted March 4, 2018 44 minutes ago, Major_Damage225 said: I'm sure one of the reasons it went silent is how OP the streamers, flamu in particular said it was (witch it was tbh), thus making it hyped to people who thought (op premium coming, yes me want) so wg put a lid on it and are reworking it so not to have another "too OP, removed from sales" messup. Thats how i see it anyway with all this lack of info about the ship, i could be wrong though Agreed. While I play a fair amount of KM ships, I'll admit that the initial reviews really piqued my interest and I was determined to get it because I missed the last sale of the Kamikaze by a few hours, it looked to be a KM version of the Kami but with usable guns. With the benefit of hindsight, however, I think it'd be better to slap prem camo on the tier 10 when I eventually reach it and accept that the ship might be re-balanced. I have enough prem ships to earn all the credits I could possibly spend (including the Missouri) and can always pop DD captains in the König Albert when they need retraining. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #22 Posted March 4, 2018 22 hours ago, Jethro_Grey said: WG will hopefully nerf that thing before release. Releasing ships that are broken beyond OP like this thing shouldn't be released at all. Also, this is not the DD-messiah that'll fix the BB meta, if this thing gets released, it'll take only one or two patches before BBs receive more buffs. And the only one who'll win in this scenario is WG's bank account...for a short while. Completely agree @Jethro_Grey I (!!!) completely agree with Flamu on this one. This abomination will only promote the long lasting pestilence of BB camping even more. It'll take a couple of matches for BB players to figure out it is of no use to push while an Asashio is on the red team. I know I wouldn't. Not even playing Missouri. The radar doesn't pick up that DWT. IMO releasing this ship will make Zeppelin-gate look like a picknick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #23 Posted March 4, 2018 Playing this evening I saw one on the enemy team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FMP] Rionage Players 76 posts Report post #24 Posted March 4, 2018 All I am looking for is T-61 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infiriel Players 508 posts 8,055 battles Report post #25 Posted March 4, 2018 2 godziny temu, Ferry_25 napisał: Completely agree @Jethro_Grey I (!!!) completely agree with Flamu on this one. This abomination will only promote the long lasting pestilence of BB camping even more. It'll take a couple of matches for BB players to figure out it is of no use to push while an Asashio is on the red team. I know I wouldn't. Not even playing Missouri. The radar doesn't pick up that DWT. IMO releasing this ship will make Zeppelin-gate look like a picknick. I hear the BBabies crying even now. Support DDs -> DDs find Asashio -> ??? -> Now you have DD advantage -> enjoy your win. If you push then Asashio is no better than PA DD, but still lacks said DD`s firepower and smokes. There was about 10 page long thread after Flamu`s 1st Asashio, and it was concluded that Asashio is by no means OP. Yes you can farm "Less skilled players", and get some big numbers - like in Flamu`s 2nd review where he says Asashio is OP because he killed Montana that didn`t turn even after he ate torps, or a Tirpitz that would die anyway 10 seconds later to Shimakaze torps. Then there comes any other DD, and shits on you because you can never contest a cap or win a 1v1 fight with this ship against equally skilled oppenent. I personally took a huge dump on Asashio 2 out of 2 times i met him. Only in the second game he managed to get 1 kill. And this was against arguably better players than me, since testers are rather good players and I`m a generic potato. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites