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Hi again #Wargaming, it's been a while!

I have credit standing by on my card, reserved for Asashio, the years-awaited premium DD of a meaningful tier with the torpedo as a main weapon! Finally! I want it already, if you need Euros for your Cyprus business, release it now because I'm checking every day and waiting...

EDIT: I'll even buy a milking bundle if you insist!

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1 minute ago, ammattimies said:

the years-awaited premium IJN DD of a meaningful tier with the torpedo as a main weapon!

That's the Harekaze :Smile_great:

I'm waiting for the T-61.

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It could be an award/prize ship for this years big April event. last year we had the Kamikaze via Clash of the Elements Event.

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13 minutes ago, aboomination said:

That's the Harekaze :Smile_great:

I'm waiting for the T-61.

Dunno if that was in the shop someday, never saw that.

Also, it's not a proper torpedo weapon if you have to sit inside all kind of silly radar ranges to be able to play it like a human, and range being so bad that you cannot reach targets that aren't sailing towards you.

Where's my Assashio?!

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24 minutes ago, ammattimies said:

Also, it's not a proper torpedo weapon if you have to sit inside all kind of silly radar ranges to be able to play it like a human, and range being so bad that you cannot reach targets that aren't sailing towards you.

Where's my Assashio?!

You're the reason she's not been released - but also the reason she's been considered in the first place :Smile_trollface:

Sure, you're not a troll? :cap_hmm:

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38 minutes ago, Podvoisky said:

It could be an award/prize ship for this years big April event. last year we had the Kamikaze via Clash of the Elements Event.

 

Kami was a last minute substitute after problems with what they were planning to give away and I don't see WG wanting large numbers of this ship in the game.

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4 hours ago, aboomination said:

That's the Harekaze :Smile_great:

I'm waiting for the T-61.

I also want my Dutch build German dd. Give t61 (or at least let me throw money at it!)

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4 hours ago, ammattimies said:

Hi again #Wargaming, it's been a while!

I have credit standing by on my card, reserved for Asashio, the years-awaited premium DD of a meaningful tier with the torpedo as a main weapon! Finally! I want it already, if you need Euros for your Cyprus business, release it now because I'm checking every day and waiting...

EDIT: I'll even buy a milking bundle if you insist!

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WG will hopefully nerf that thing before release.

Releasing ships that are broken beyond OP like this thing shouldn't be released at all.

 

Also, this is not the DD-messiah that'll fix the BB meta, if this thing gets released, it'll take only one or two patches before BBs receive more buffs.

And the only one who'll win in this scenario is WG's bank account...for a short while.

 

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1 hour ago, Jethro_Grey said:

WG will hopefully nerf that thing before release.

Releasing ships that are broken beyond OP like this thing shouldn't be released at all.

 

Also, this is not the DD-messiah that'll fix the BB meta, if this thing gets released, it'll take only one or two patches before BBs receive more buffs.

And the only one who'll win in this scenario is WG's bank account...for a short while.

 

Is that IJN freak DD OP?

 

It looks hugely unbalanced. Like Kaga. It'll farm idiots but quickly go down to someone who knows how to counter. 

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39 minutes ago, Negativvv said:

Is that IJN freak DD OP?

 

It looks hugely unbalanced. Like Kaga. It'll farm idiots but quickly go down to someone who knows how to counter. 

True, but that's not the main issue.

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14 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said:

True, but that's not the main issue.

Main issue as in it'll encourage the low skilled to torp snipe?

 

Or we'll see more BB whine because they will be vs something they cannot counter?

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1 hour ago, Negativvv said:

Main issue as in it'll encourage the low skilled to torp snipe?

 

Or we'll see more BB whine because they will be vs something they cannot counter?

It promotes bad gameplay and punishes good play as BBs who support and push will get punished first. The campers will camp even harder and those who have been wrecked two or three times by an Asashio will think twice whether they push and support again or do the <smart> thing and tell teamplay to frak off.

 

We have enough campers as it is and for the most part there is no reason to camp, lets not give them one. 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said:

It promotes bad gameplay and punishes good play as BBs who support and push will get punished first. The campers will camp even harder and those who have been wrecked two or three times by an Asashio will think twice whether they push and support again or do the <smart> thing and tell teamplay to frak off.

 

We have enough campers as it is and for the most part there is no reason to camp, lets not give them one. 

 

 

 

Yeah I agree.

 

Whilst I'm really enjoying PA DDs and their DWT I can't help but think of the impact they have on the average BB player.

 

I literally nuked a Monarch the other day with one salvo of DW torps, I wonder what the affect it had on that poor little potatoes brain as he went from 60k to zero with nothing he could do about it. It won't occur to the potato that they should have used WASD or actually looked at the map. I probably created another BB camper that moment as he'll never come within 15km of any action ever again :cap_haloween:

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8 hours ago, Negativvv said:

 

Yeah I agree.

 

Whilst I'm really enjoying PA DDs and their DWT I can't help but think of the impact they have on the average BB player.

 

I literally nuked a Monarch the other day with one salvo of DW torps, I wonder what the affect it had on that poor little potatoes brain as he went from 60k to zero with nothing he could do about it. It won't occur to the potato that they should have used WASD or actually looked at the map. I probably created another BB camper that moment as he'll never come within 15km of any action ever again :cap_haloween:

So you telling us that poor man could not defend against something that travel to him over 40 seconds? :)  you killed poor baby seal. You monster. 

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Gascogn as a fail I'm defo waiting for this ship. T-61 seems promising but I'll wait for new reviews.

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21 minutes ago, _DeathWing_ said:

Gascogn as a fail I'm defo waiting for this ship. T-61 seems promising but I'll wait for new reviews.

Hasnt the T-61 been shelved, wg are too quiet about the ship :cap_yes:

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13 hours ago, Jethro_Grey said:

It promotes bad gameplay and punishes good play as BBs who support and push will get punished first. The campers will camp even harder and those who have been wrecked two or three times by an Asashio will think twice whether they push and support again or do the <smart> thing and tell teamplay to frak off.

 

We have enough campers as it is and for the most part there is no reason to camp, lets not give them one. 

 

 

Pushing and brawling BBs are already punished enough with 90% of their BB teammates usually camping and sniping in behind. I loved pushing the cap with BBs even in tier 10 games, before, nowdays, with the release of the likes of Conqueror and French BBs, because I see a lot of them spamming HE, and DW tops, with so many DDs deciding to flank instead of going for cap, I found myself doing more what I wholeheartedly hate, which is play more and more in the back with a BB. And with the tanking being barely rewarded (if its actually rewarded, because to me it seems like it isn't) I guess WG really is promoting long range combat, for all ships and the current Asashio will just bring more and more of that

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3 hours ago, Major_Damage225 said:

Hasnt the T-61 been shelved, wg are too quiet about the ship :cap_yes:

 

I've asked several streamers who tested it and in the Warships official stream what's happening and been told by all of them that they're not allowed to say anything. It's annoying that an NDA gets slapped on after it was teased so many times, I've taken it as a sign that I already have enough premium ships and don't need any more.

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39 minutes ago, Strappster said:

have enough premium ships and don't need any more.

You have seen the truth. God hast spoken to you.

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1 hour ago, Strappster said:

 

I've asked several streamers who tested it and in the Warships official stream what's happening and been told by all of them that they're not allowed to say anything. It's annoying that an NDA gets slapped on after it was teased so many times, I've taken it as a sign that I already have enough premium ships and don't need any more.

I'm sure one of the reasons it went silent is how OP the streamers, flamu in particular said it was (witch it was tbh), thus making it hyped to people who thought (op premium coming, yes me want) so wg put a lid on it and are reworking it so not to have another "too OP, removed from sales" messup. 

 

Thats how i see it anyway with all this lack of info about the ship, i could be wrong though :cap_book:

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44 minutes ago, Major_Damage225 said:

I'm sure one of the reasons it went silent is how OP the streamers, flamu in particular said it was (witch it was tbh), thus making it hyped to people who thought (op premium coming, yes me want) so wg put a lid on it and are reworking it so not to have another "too OP, removed from sales" messup. 

 

Thats how i see it anyway with all this lack of info about the ship, i could be wrong though :cap_book:

 

Agreed. While I play a fair amount of KM ships, I'll admit that the initial reviews really piqued my interest and I was determined to get it because I missed the last sale of the Kamikaze by a few hours, it looked to be a KM version of the Kami but with usable guns.

 

With the benefit of hindsight, however, I think it'd be better to slap prem camo on the tier 10 when I eventually reach it and accept that the ship might be re-balanced. I have enough prem ships to earn all the credits I could possibly spend (including the Missouri) and can always pop DD captains in the König Albert when they need retraining. :Smile_Default:

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22 hours ago, Jethro_Grey said:

WG will hopefully nerf that thing before release.

Releasing ships that are broken beyond OP like this thing shouldn't be released at all.

 

Also, this is not the DD-messiah that'll fix the BB meta, if this thing gets released, it'll take only one or two patches before BBs receive more buffs.

And the only one who'll win in this scenario is WG's bank account...for a short while.

 

Completely agree @Jethro_Grey I (!!!) completely agree with Flamu on this one. This abomination will only promote the long lasting pestilence of BB camping even more. It'll take a couple of matches for BB players to figure out it is of no use to push while an Asashio is on the red team. I know I wouldn't. Not even playing Missouri. The radar doesn't pick up that DWT. IMO releasing this ship will make Zeppelin-gate look like a picknick.

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2 godziny temu, Ferry_25 napisał:

Completely agree @Jethro_Grey I (!!!) completely agree with Flamu on this one. This abomination will only promote the long lasting pestilence of BB camping even more. It'll take a couple of matches for BB players to figure out it is of no use to push while an Asashio is on the red team. I know I wouldn't. Not even playing Missouri. The radar doesn't pick up that DWT. IMO releasing this ship will make Zeppelin-gate look like a picknick.

I hear the BBabies crying even now.
Support DDs -> DDs find Asashio -> ??? -> Now you have DD advantage -> enjoy your win.
If you push then Asashio is no better than PA DD, but still lacks said DD`s firepower and smokes.

There was about 10 page long thread after Flamu`s 1st Asashio, and it was concluded that Asashio is by no means OP.
Yes you can farm "Less skilled players", and get some big numbers - like in Flamu`s 2nd review where he says Asashio is OP because he killed Montana that didn`t turn even after he ate torps, or a Tirpitz that would die anyway 10 seconds later to Shimakaze torps.
Then there comes any other DD, and shits on you because you can never contest a cap or win a 1v1 fight with this ship against equally skilled oppenent.

I personally took a huge dump on Asashio 2 out of 2 times i met him. Only in the second game he managed to get 1 kill. And this was against arguably better players than me, since testers are rather good players and I`m a generic potato.

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