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Please leave any general feedback regarding the new Operation Hermes here.

 

We are particularly interested in what you think of the new localized Thunderstorm effects and mechanics. You can find more information on the Operation here.

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So I thought I'd give the new Operation a try, but i've got a slight problem. The only T7 American,British or French ship I have is the Nelson and for some reason you can't use that ship. What is going on there?

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Gerade eben, That_Guy sagte:

and for some reason you can't use that ship.

 

the Nelson is not a cruiser...

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It doesn't say you need to use a cruiser, and the Three French BB's are not cruisers either.

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yes it does, the little symbol next to the USA/UK/FR flags shows the cruiser symbol...

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I can understand the "flavor" side of this and to be honest I like that but seeing that I'am locked out to because I don't own any of the eligible ships...

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Vor 1 Stunde, That_Guy sagte:

It doesn't say you need to use a cruiser, and the Three French BB's are not cruisers either.

in addition to Salentines screehshot:

The announcement for the 0.7.2. PTS, the article about Vive-la-France - Part 2 and the announcement for 0.7.2. all list the allowed/possible ships for this operation...

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The limitation to only cruisers of 3 nations plus French BBs is really questionable, as it locks out players who don't have qualifying ships.

The rewards (3x French Box, 300 Doubloons) are inferior to rewards of previous operations, especially since this appears operation to be a one time event like Dynamo.

 

But what really bugs me is the fact that the NPC ship pathing is bugged and prevents me from finishing the operation, especially since that bug was reported in the PT.

This shows either wilful ignorance or bottomless incompetence that time and time again is shown by WG/Lesta. What's the point of this operation if you can't finish it due to a bug?

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The selection of ships is too limited.

 

Restricing it to nations is one thing but only Frensh BBs?  yea Colerados woudnt work with its smeed but a KGV/Hood might. Not much fun charging last wayve German AP heavy cruisers when you only have paper armor instant cits to fight them...

 

You draw a good team with some Lyons or a Atlanta only cant even get in range the the Graf Zep in the end is just to limited....

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5 stars first try, only because we had the right ships and a great team.

The new operation is badly thought out and badly executed. The fact it cuts out so many players and ships is ridiculous.

 

It could be a lot more fun had WG given it a little more thought. And the rewards are truly worthy of Ebenezer Scrooge.

4 out of 10 for this mess.

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Just asking, no Special Rewards for 5 Stars Victory? As I got the 3 containers and 300 doubloons for a 2 Stars one...

 

Also a suggestion for a correction update:

do not let start any team without at least 2 BBs ! In the 2 stars one there was one BB only and just got lost in the back, lucky we had the bot ones doing their job in front...

 

 

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2 hours ago, RedAnark said:

Just asking, no Special Rewards for 5 Stars Victory? As I got the 3 containers and 300 doubloons for a 2 Stars one...

You get Gold for 3rd, 4th and 5th star, total of 300, so in your 2 star game you couldn't have received any gold whatsoever :fish_palm:

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This Operation is perfect example of "historical accuracy" not working for game - ship selection is too limited. One option to alleviate this would be enabling all ships of respective tiers to play Scenario together with repeatable Challenge, giving +50% exp/credits/whatever to "fitting" ships. That way players aren't excluded, but rewarded for bringing proper ships.

 

Thunderstorm mechanic is certainly interesting, but its too binary in action - it should gradually apply penalties as ships are closing to the center of the storm. Interface already has icons for that

storm1.jpg

storm2.jpg

 

Also when we're at it, "M" have to be in next row? It happens regardless of resolution

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The Heat of the Fight challenge.

 

Did it today with Lyon, win with 3 stars. Shot down 32 aircraft... did not registered the challenge as completed.

 

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Trying to do the heart of the fight challenge on Hermes mission with Lyon and though i take down more than 25 aircraft it doesnt count it. i think the description is clear i can do it with bb T7 French. is that a bug or something? Clan m8 said it counts with cruisers.

 

edit:yeap exactly what the sharkman said.did it 2 times 5 start but i dont think it matters in anything.

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19 hours ago, Spellfire40 said:

The selection of ships is too limited.

 

Restricing it to nations is one thing but only Frensh BBs?  yea Colerados woudnt work with its smeed but a KGV/Hood might. Not much fun charging last wayve German AP heavy cruisers when you only have paper armor instant cits to fight them...

 

You draw a good team with some Lyons or a Atlanta only cant even get in range the the Graf Zep in the end is just to limited....

The selection is indeed limited. 1 ship will be added after the USA cruiser split, but still limited.

This operation isn't very hard, perhaps it could be expanded? I'm nhot sure how a sensible addition could be made. Maybe add allied tier 6 cruisers? Though this was supposed to be for tier 7 mostly I think.

 

It wouldn't make a lot of sense to add axis ships.

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On 3/1/2018 at 10:38 AM, That_Guy said:

So I thought I'd give the new Operation a try, but i've got a slight problem. The only T7 American,British or French ship I have is the Nelson and for some reason you can't use that ship. What is going on there?

 

Unfortunately you are restricted to cruisers of those nation, or French battleships. The operation is however available for a while, so you can still get one of those ships!

 

3 hours ago, SharkMan77 said:

The Heat of the Fight challenge.

 

Did it today with Lyon, win with 3 stars. Shot down 32 aircraft... did not registered the challenge as completed.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, ArsonX said:

Trying to do the heart of the fight challenge on Hermes mission with Lyon and though i take down more than 25 aircraft it doesnt count it. i think the description is clear i can do it with bb T7 French. is that a bug or something? Clan m8 said it counts with cruisers.

 

edit:yeap exactly what the sharkman said.did it 2 times 5 start but i dont think it matters in anything.

 

We are aware that this mission is bugged and will be replacing the mission parameters with "Earn 150 ribbons over any amount of battles". Our apologies!

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I basically do like the new operation.

I don't like the fact I can only use my Atlanta for it, but ok. The premise is acceptable.

I like the introduction of more bad weather. However, this would have been a chance to actually introduce some heavier swell. Aiming guns  at sea is not as calm as the bino view makes it out to be. A ship should be swaying with the waves and it should be swaying more heavily in bad weather with bigger waves.

The biggest gripe I have though is that on the one hand, you use historical realism to block my other T7 ships from the mission but then on the other hand, you make it so air attack heavy despite the thunderstorm.

 

Of course I enjoy killing planes in an Atlanta as much as the next guy. And it is nice to go into battle knowing there will be planes and that Defensive Fire II will not be a total waste again and I will not regret leaving the hydro at home. Which is a frequent source of frustration in that ship.

 

But back in those days, actual combat planes did not cope well with bad weather and would be grounded in such conditions.

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I like the Hermes Scenario... alot, even though i have some problems with some of the stuff in it ....  BUT most of all i find it so frustrating , that Ruan   keep  taking damage even after  he has crossed the map line and is  well outside it...   my grp and i have " lost " alot of 5 star finishes, because of that 

I like that  HERMES  can be quite a challenge to finish it, but when you  miss out on the 5th star because of a bad designed endning.. that is very very frustrating 

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Hi WG.

 

The storm in Hemes mega great and is what is needed to be in place for the cyclone storms in random battles, giving the cyclones the visual look and better reason ship detection ranges.

 

The CV at the end is intermittently invisible in battle which makes it even harder to hit, that's if no one on team ignore it which is mostly the case.

 

Is the carrier correctly placed at the end as the escort BB can finish before we destroy the CV let alone see it.

 

A ship has to sail out towards the CV to spot it and even then it intermittently disappear.

 

Suggestion: Should the carrier be in convoy with the other enemy ships from start to end giving president to the planes at start and halfway through to end, or one CV at start and one not so near the end making this more logical to the amount of planes we have to shoot down.        

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I know this is an attempt for a "historical" operation but the ship selection is too limited. I had to specifically buy the Pensacola to give the operation a try. I think such limitations will just not work in the long run. I love PvE operations but now that Hermes will be up for 2 weeks and Pensa is my only ship that meets the criteria so I'm stuck with her? I don't like it.

 

And to those that finished it with 5 stars and claim it is too easy...please refrain from commenting on difficulty until we have proper hard modes for all operations, right now we are all playing on "normal" difficulty tailored for the average co-op player (HE-sniping Tirpitzes and such) and believe me, it can be quite challenging for some...

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While i am having no issues with the restriction of usable ships, the mission itself is just way too easy...

thats the second t7 mission that i have finished with 5 stars on first try with a random ship (this time uss atlanta), without even knowing anything about the mission beforehand.

getting 5 stars should be difficult, knowledge of spawns and ships and such should be mandatory to get max stars.

 

im complaining about this only because i dont have a reason to play a mission anymore after i got 5 stars, but i can tell that alot of time and energy are put into them, i just would like to be able to appreciate them more. its a shame.

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If i didn`t already have Atlanta in port I`d not do this operation.
Like seriously, what`s wrong with this ship limitations.

Also AI BBs ram each other for no reason.

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I'm changing my opinion about this operation, one main problem is Ruan sailing towards GZ instead of across the map border.

Even with 2 Atlantas and a Belfast in division it seems impossible to hard carry due to the Ruan seemingly being prioritized and sailing towards GZ, into the DDs camping there.

 

My last battle the Ruan barely made it to the safe zone half way, even though there were allied ships closer to the 4 German BBs that seemed to be ignored and for all the bad players that were there, they were doing their best (or at least 2 of the BBs were).

 

We still had 3 alive teammembers when Ruan charged GZ again and succumbed to gun fire from the German DDs and cruisers.

 

What gives???

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