RN CRUISERS , Predicted Tech tree

[lethalbizzell]

 

FINAL TECH TREE, MIRRORING AMOUNT OF GUNS AND TONNAGE OF THE US TECH TREE

 

 

TIER I - ? – (need to find a ship that can relate to both destroyers and cruisers)

TIER II – TOWN CLASS - LIGHT CRUISER –  1910, 5440 tonnes, 2 x 6 inch guns

TIER III - MONMOUTH CLASS  - ARMOURED CLASS- 1903, 10000 tonnes 2x2 + 10x1 6inch guns (PRIORITY)  -

TIER IV – C CLASS  - LIGHT CRUISER  – 1915 – 1917  , 4180 tonnes, 5 x 6 inch guns  (PRIORITY)

TIER V – DIDO CLASS - LIGHT CRUISER  – 1940 – 5900 tonnes , 10 x 5.25 inch guns (5x2) OR   TIER V - Hawkins class – 1919, 9750 tonnes,7 x 7.5 inch guns (first heavy cruiser) (PRIORITY)

TIER  VI – TOWN CLASS  - LIGHT CRUISER – 1937, 13386 tonnes, 12 x 6 inch guns (4x3) (PRIORITY, 10 made and HMS BELFAST is one)

TIER VII - CROWN COLONY CLASS - LIGHT CRUISER  – 1943, 10840 tonnes, 9 x 6 inch guns OR 12 x 6 inch

TIER VIII - YORK CLASS - HEAVY CRUISER – 1930, 8250 tonnes, 6x8 inch guns (3x2) (PRIORITY)

TIER X  - County class HEAVY CRUISER– 1928, 10400 tonnes, 8 x 8 inch guns (4x2) (PRIORITY)

TIER IX - ? ( no ship after the county class existed as a heavy cruiser….) 

 

 

 

 

 

[mr3awsome]

The Town class, as a group, are much better than Chester.

Also, there is enough variation to split the class into 3 more distinct sub-classes. Same applies to the Cs, County's and later Town class

[Crooq_Lionfang]

You got the comment behind the Tier I wrong in my opinion - the tier I should relate to cruisers and destroyers, as those will be researched from there directly. BBs become researchable from the ther II

[TheWarHog]

Also the Courageous class Battlecruiser, as a Battlecruiser would it not be included in the Battleship line?

 

The tier IV, V and I believe VIII Japanese BBs are actually Battlecruisers, like the tier V Kongo.

[JapLance]

Why the same thread again?

 

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/9616-any-idea-of-rn-cruiser-line/

 

My line

 

Tier I: Town Class (WW1)
Tier II: C Class
Tier III: Warrior Class (I don't know them very well, maybe a different AC class)
Tier IV: Arethusa Class (WW2)
Tier V: Dido Class
Tier VI: Leander Class / Colony Class / York Class
Tier VII: Town Class (WW2)
Tier VIII: County Class
Tier IX: ¿?
Tier X: ¿?

 

Nothing really after tier VIII, unless "what if" or paper projects which I'm not familiar with. 

[DumbleDerp]

TIER I - ? – (need to find a ship that can relate to both battleships and cruisers)

 

Perhaps the Invincible class battlecruiser could sit at tier 1 - early battlecruiser from 1906 - 1909.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible-class_battlecruiser

 

Perhaps a little on the large side, but struggling to find anything else that could suitably fit the game.

[Historynerd]

In any case, the County class is in no way Tier X material. And I believe I'm not the only one with that opinion.

[lethalbizzell]

JapLance, on 02 April 2015 - 07:28 AM, said:

Why the same thread again?

 

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/9616-any-idea-of-rn-cruiser-line/

 

 

 because i wanted this to be my final line, where as the other thread was more of a discussion about the different types of cruisers  

 

Historynerd, on 02 April 2015 - 07:41 AM, said:

In any case, the County class is in no way Tier X material. And I believe I'm not the only one with that opinion.

 

the problem we have in the RN at this time though, is that no heavy cruisers were made after the YORK class. Now the last light cruiser was the crown colony class... NOWHERE near as powerful as the tier nine baltimore in the US tech tree  weirdly the biggest light cruiser we made was the WW2 town class.... displacement of 13000 odd tonnes and carrying 12 6 inch guns. 
 

[Crooq_Lionfang]

 

the problem we have in the RN at this time though, is that no heavy cruisers were made after the YORK class. Now the last light cruiser was the crown colony class... NOWHERE near as powerful as the tier nine baltimore in the US tech tree

 

Wasn't Tiger class after Crown Colony? I'm no expert though

[lethalbizzell]

 

Wasn't Tiger class after Crown Colony? I'm no expert though

 

it was but now your talking the 1950s.... would this be allowed ? Also the tiger class only had 4 x 6 inch guns..... It was a modern warship with a helicopter 

[Crooq_Lionfang]

 

it was but now your talking the 1950s.... would this be allowed ? Also the tiger class only had 4 x 6 inch guns..... It was a modern warship with a helicopter 

 

First ship laid down in 1942 I think, so it'd still be in the time frame. If they are good enough for high tier though, no idea

 

edit: and they weren't planned to be as modern with helipad etc, the ships got refitted in 1954, if I can trust a quick glance over wiki

[Historynerd]

 

the problem we have in the RN at this time though, is that no heavy cruisers were made after the YORK class. Now the last light cruiser was the crown colony class... NOWHERE near as powerful as the tier nine baltimore in the US tech tree  weirdly the biggest light cruiser we made was the WW2 town class.... displacement of 13000 odd tonnes and carrying 12 6 inch guns. 

 

Well, in the Regia Marina we don't have anything after the Zara-class, just paper designs of which I don't know much, and I don't think that they can be Tier 10 either.

 

Seems like we'll both have to keep working on finding something else; but we can't just keep them there just because there's nothing else at the moment.

[captainjoshi]

I d prefer to see The hood as T10 Cruiser! not as a T6-7 Battleship, cause they could use the Renown and Repulse as Early tier Battleship, tho  they are cruisers, but i dont want to see The hood as a Battleship cause she isnt one!

[Historynerd]

I d prefer to see The hood as T10 Cruiser! not as a T6-7 Battleship, cause they could use the Renown and Repulse as Early tier Battleship, tho  they are cruisers, but i dont want to see The hood as a Battleship cause she isnt one!

 

Theoretically then we should rearrange the Japanese BB line, because we would have to remove the Myogi, the Kongou and the Amagi, because those aren't battleships...

[captainjoshi]

 

Theoretically then we should rearrange the Japanese BB line, because we would have to remove the Myogi, the Kongou and the Amagi, because those aren't battleships...

 

but those arent fast either, and i guess they will split the tree later, into battleships and light battleships & battlecruisers

[Boomer7]

Well I dont think the battlecruisers will make it in the cruiser lines.

 

Everything above 8" main guns seems to be classified as a Battleship.

 

The invincible at tier 1, I guess its a late April fool joke.

 8x12" guns, 16x 4, plus Torpedoes, its a bit of an overkill.

And with the long reload and aiming time not really friendly for beginners, but experienced players would probably be seal clubbing in that thing like crazy

[Historynerd]

 

but those arent fast either, and i guess they will split the tree later, into battleships and light battleships & battlecruisers

 

The Myogi and the Kongou with their 30+ knots aren't fast?! (I don't know about the Amagi)

 

[McLeod]

 

Theoretically then we should rearrange the Japanese BB line, because we would have to remove the Myogi, the Kongou and the Amagi, because those aren't battleships...

 

Wasn't the Kongo reclassified as a battleship after it's major refit in the late 30's where they increased it's armour protection all round ?

 

It's new weight would have put it well above that of a Battlecruiser.

[Septivium]

I d prefer to see The hood as T10 Cruiser! not as a T6-7 Battleship, cause they could use the Renown and Repulse as Early tier Battleship, tho  they are cruisers, but i dont want to see The hood as a Battleship cause she isnt one!

 

Battlecruisers are classified as Battleships in this game. this is not a reclassification of the ship based on how a real navy would classify its ships, its based on simple game mechanics. 

 

As far as this game is concerned the Hood is ... in every definition relevant to this game ... a Battleship.  (Size of the Guns are Key here, no Cruiser in this game gets 15 Inch guns)

[McLeod]

 

Battlecruisers are classified as Battleships in this game. this is not a reclassification of the ship based on how a real navy would classify its ships, its based on simple game mechanics. 

 

As far as this game is concerned the Hood is ... in every definition relevant to this game ... a Battleship.  (Size of the Guns are Key here, no Cruiser in this game gets 15 Inch guns)

 

yeah isn't it anything above 8 inches is considered a Battleship in game terms ?

[wongman66]

Where do the German "pocket" battleships sit? Graf Spee, Scharnhorst etc 11 inch guns. Supposed to outgun RN cruisers and faster than RN battleships so not having to trade with their 14/15/16in guns

[McLeod]

Where do the German "pocket" battleships sit? Graf Spee, Scharnhorst etc 11 inch guns. Supposed to outgun RN cruisers and faster than RN battleships so not having to trade with their 14/15/16in guns

 

I belive in the current make up of the game they would be battleships as its gun calibre that's they defining factor.

[lethalbizzell]

they will more likely balance things by adding extra health etc. only way ? This would be the case with the HOOD, As they could put the armour she should of had before she was sunk by the Bismarck  (She was due a refit)

[mr3awsome]

11" and above main guns are Dreadnoughts (that is battleships and battlecruisers)

 

Tier 1 for the British is a definite problem. One which I have no answer to.

 

As for cruisers:

 

Tier 2: Gem

Tier 3: Caroline                Bristol

Tier 4: Danae                   Birmingham

Tier 5: Emerald                Hawkins

Tier 6: Leander               York

Tier 7: Southampton       County

Tier 8: Edinburgh            Paper

Tier 9: Kai-Belfast           Paper

Tier 10: Neptune             Paper

 

Paper means I'm not sure.

Kai-Belfast is more or less Belfast with 4.5" DP secondaries and Mk 24 main gun mounts.

There are other sub-branches, but they have been omitted for clarity

 

[placeholder001]

Im gonna love the dido class (she is confirmed), I'm hoping we can have the bellona subclass... This ship is gonna be OP a $#*!. For the ones who didnt know It is the ship described in HMS Ullysess from Allistair Maclean. He also sailed on one of them...