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Hello guys. Hope you all is having a great evening. 

So. i have tested the latest version of Graf Zeppelin. 1st things first. Am a NOOB 1st class with carriers. I tested her in coop. No way near skills to test in randm. But she seems like a beast to me. I used HE bombs. And omg how accurate they are. No manual drop for me. Since i miss all the time :D Will tru those DW torpedoes later. But what do you experienced guys think of the latest version? To me she seems very powerful. Can she hold her own against other carriers? Well forget about blogis :P Have met him a cople of times. Had the honor of getting sunk by him. Pleasure to watch him play :) Anyway. Give me your thoughts. :Smile_great:5a7c8dac5dd83_Skrmbild(303).thumb.png.f5aef226c2582c53a8d7ac1e22153c50.png

 

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Hey dude, havent given it a try yet but I noticed a thing that looks rather strange.

The DW torps have the exact same stats (range, max dmg, speed) as the normal ones and they can only hit BBs and CVs, they cant even hit cruisers.

Unless I missed something big here, I dont get why someone would use the deep water varient over the normal ones.

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There's a new test variant of GZ?

Guess it's time to farm some CS flags. :Smile_trollface:

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9 minutes ago, tank276 said:

Hey dude, havent given it a try yet but I noticed a thing that looks rather strange.

The DW torps have the exact same stats (range, max dmg, speed) as the normal ones and they can only hit BBs and CVs, they cant even hit cruisers.

Unless I missed something big here, I dont get why someone would use the deep water varient over the normal ones.

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Yes. It´s kinda wierd. But they do hit hard. Under the antitorpedo belts. Buut. We´ll see. But those ordinary ones is good. :P 

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7 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

There's a new test variant of GZ?

Guess it's time to farm some CS flags. :Smile_trollface:

Then you should meet me :D My fighter always strafe in the wrong direction Hehe 

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The only advantage of DW torps is higher flooding chance.

It should be a nobrainer to you use normal torps ^^

Their flooding chance is high enough with Victor Lima and Juliet Whiskey Unaone flags.

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Still has paper  planes that drop to anything that sneeses at them, out of fighters in 5 min, TB in 8, so yeah, better wait half game afk before the enemy gets damaged enough to even be of use by finishng of loners. And thats in a tier 6 game, imagining the hell in tier 10, where the hangar gets emptyed even faster. Should have refunded it when i had a chance because it seems they arent even trying.

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Vor 10 Minuten, Azalgor sagte:

Still has paper  planes that drop to anything that sneeses at them, out of fighters in 5 min, TB in 8, so yeah, better wait half game afk before the enemy gets damaged enough to even be of use by finishng of loners. And thats in a tier 6 game, imagining the hell in tier 10, where the hangar gets emptyed even faster. Should have refunded it when i had a chance because it seems they arent even trying.

You seem to be the only one with that opinion though.

 

Let me just post two screens from another GZ tester here:

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And that was a T10 battle ;)

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Just played against one.

Bombers die in droves even against frontal strafes.

Fighters are still a one trick pony (you either strafe or you lose), thus predictable and easily dispatched.

 

When uncontested however I imagine she has hilarious strike potential.

So yeah, she's essentially Kaga 2.0

You know, just like in the previous test iteration where we had these loadouts.

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44 minutes ago, Commander_Cornflakes said:

You seem to be the only one with that opinion though.

Yep, my skill is crap, im working to make it even worse, but it doent change the fact that its crap compared to other premium CVs like Saipan for example, in my PERSONAL opinion.

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48 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

So yeah, she's essentially Kaga 2.0

My feeling so far even if I stopped playing CVs some games ago.

My favourite CV was Strike Lexi. Why? Because most of the players are bad so taking a strike carrier is taking a gamble, you just hope the enemy CV is not an unicorn. In most cases you can just play around enemy CV and outdmg him. +Sweet salt on chat :cap_haloween:

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Not even a squad of fighter reserves with AS in 1/2/1. No ammo either.

2/0/3 is obviously utterly stupid.

And ofc hydro.

 

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Yeah, no, this ship is still a joke.

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31 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

Not even a squad of fighter reserves with AS in 1/2/1. No ammo either.

2/0/3 is obviously utterly stupid.

And ofc hydro.

 

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Yeah, no, this ship is still a joke.

 

To help it dodge those pesky DD torps. Only problem is, the DD can still simply gun you down instead.

 

Looks like the devs have finally gone completely bonkers.

 

Spotter plane for the tier X German CV! Wargaming get on it!

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Wait Graff has hydro :cap_fainting:

Im not a cv player so i didt really follow GZ "testing" 

I know wg had some uneque ideas so to speak but hydro on a cv? 

next phase radar on cv's? :Smile_veryhappy:

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1 hour ago, SovietFury43 said:

To help it dodge those pesky DD torps. Only problem is, the DD can still simply gun you down instead.

 

Looks like the devs have finally gone completely bonkers.

 

Gunned down 2 Shimas in one game with my secondaries. 

Never underestimate the pushing power when there are only a few wounded ships left. 

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4 hours ago, _Helmut_Kohl_ said:

 

Gunned down 2 Shimas in one game with my secondaries. 

Never underestimate the pushing power when there are only a few wounded ships left. 

 

Thats cool and all, but come on, how often does that kind of stuff happen?

 

Maybe once in 300 battles or more. Giving a carrier a consumable that is going to be useful maybe once in 300 battles is like an AA build on a tier two ship, for that once in a lifetime chance to shoot down Katoris catapult fighter.

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As long as the ship doesn't have to give up anything important for the Hydro/Secondaries, I'm loving it. 

Because whenever your team loses, you at least get a chance to push in and have some fun. 

 

But yeah, it will not help CV play, so it should just be a compensation for the awful concealment, nothing more. 

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When you see Farra is the opposing CV and you immediately go

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but then you realize he's in a GZ and you shift 180° to

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Stream at 02:04:00 here:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/228378011

Demonstrates perfectly well how garbage this thing is at air control.

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4 hours ago, El2aZeR said:
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When you see Farra is the opposing CV and you immediately go

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but then you realize he's in a GZ and you shift 180° to

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Stream at 02:04:00 here:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/228378011

Demonstrates perfectly well how garbage this thing is at air control.

 

Yeah it is crazy, how weak the GZ is against the Enterprise. 

 

That one mistake cost him his few fighters, and made him helpless for the rest of the game. 

But of course you could even have forced the engagement with him having an advantage, just to make him bleed those few fighters anyway. 

 

GZ is simply screwed against a decent enemy CV. 

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