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More than 12 months ago, much more, I stopped playing this game, and I refused to even log into the forums.

 

Why? Because some child called me a liar.

 

I am 57.5 years old, AND... I wanted to start playing this game again because a few months ago, I was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer. I want to take my mind off things by playing games.

 

OK, I'm taking a Gene pill to fight the cancer, but that can only extend my life... by how much, I don't know. The pill is called "Erlotnib" and it causes numerous and painful side effects. Another reason I want to start playing games, like this one again.

 

At the time, the staff at the help centre said they were cracking down on the trolls and if I wait a few months, I should see the difference. I did not want to wait.... I don't appreciate being called a liar.  I had spent a fair bit of money on this game, and will be reluctant to do so again in the future. I also do NOT want to read posts full of abuse and children acting like entitled brats.... that is why I won't read the forums, and why I'm asking (nicely)

I suspect the number of updates I have missed out on will mean a new download before I can get back into my account. I suspect then that I will have much to learn as it will have changed a great deal. The last time I had logged in, the British Cruisers had joined the ranks... I think I even purchased one.....

Can a staff member Email me a code I can use as a reward for returning to the fold... you know, because you missed me! :)

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BTW, I even created a clan, but they hadn't started yet, even had a website for it, gone now, so it was more than 12 months ago. I won't bother with clans. That was partly what the abuse towards me was about.

 

Sorry, should have edited my last post. :(

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Welcome back!

 

Sorry to disappoint you:

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I am just coming back from a match. A guy called me cheater because i citadeled him. Pensacola broadside-on to my BB. But i am cheating :cap_book:

 

So, no, not much has changed.

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I meant in the forums.... in the game... yeah, that reminds me, it was bad.

 

I remember ...trolls... attacking me just as the game starts, complete with torps.

 

Maybe I made a mistake wanting to come back. I'll reserve judgement till I see for myself, but yeah...

 

I meant, in the forums.

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1 hour ago, Kiwi1960 said:

More than 12 months ago, much more, I stopped playing this game, and I refused to even log into the forums.

 

Why? Because some child called me a liar.

 

You could wait an eternity, that's never gonna change.

Ever.

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Aha, well in the forum it is ok. Help is offered fast and useful.

 

I especially like that WG-employees now answer questions faster and participate in discussions. For example, when a new ship is announced there is a lot of rumors about it. Then someone from staff gives us some info to calm the speculations.

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37 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Asking nicely... yeah..:cap_like:

 

Maybe the internet is not for you.

Maybe humanity isn't for you. I'm old enough to know that manners maketh the man, or, in words you might understand better, you speak (or type) to people the way you would want them to speak and type to you.... meaning, was it really needed for the not so subtle insult? Google manners if you want a clue. have a nice day.

 

So, apparently, things have not changed much. Just because its the internet doesn't mean you get to troll people, right? The internet is what we make it, if these forums has not learnt that in the time since it started, then it will continue to lose members/players. I Googled it got my answer.

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7 minutes ago, Kiwi1960 said:

Maybe humanity isn't for you. I'm old enough to know that manners maketh the man, or, in words you might understand better, you speak (or type) to people the way you would want them to speak and type to you.... meaning, was it really needed for the not so subtle insult? Google manners if you want a clue. have a nice day.

 

So, apparently, things have not changed much. Just because its the internet doesn't mean you get to troll people, right? The internet is what we make it, if these forums has not learnt that in the time since it started, then it will continue to lose members/players. I Googled it got my answer.

 

What he meant is that you can't expect to have both anonymity and 100% utopically welcoming community.

Human nature just doesn't work that way.
The fact that you want it to be different won't change that, and ransoming your own presence (a single drop in a massive ocean of content) won't either.

 

 

That's not an insult from my part, that's me trying to be legitimately helpful by telling you that what you are asking for is downright delusional.
It doesn't even happen in real life, where people will to your face call you names.
You can't quit something just because ONE person called you a liar, what kind of attitude is that?

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27 minutes ago, Kiwi1960 said:

Maybe humanity isn't for you....

Considering the inhuman behaviour of the masses, maybe you are right. 

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4 hours ago, Exocet6951 said:

 

What he meant is that you can't expect to have both anonymity and 100% utopically welcoming community.

Human nature just doesn't work that way.
The fact that you want it to be different won't change that, and ransoming your own presence (a single drop in a massive ocean of content) won't either.

 

 

That's not an insult from my part, that's me trying to be legitimately helpful by telling you that what you are asking for is downright delusional.
It doesn't even happen in real life, where people will to your face call you names.
You can't quit something just because ONE person called you a liar, what kind of attitude is that?

Yes you can. If you tried insulting people on FB then they ban you for a time. This is a community, WE make the community, the staff reflect what we want, the rules are clear, flaming, abuse and you will be punished. If you suggest that the staff NEVER issue punishments then things are much worse than I thought, but I don't think they are, not really, its just YOU with a delusional Wild Wild Web mentality thinking everything is bad on the internet so why not play along with it. Nope, not buying it.... In real life, if people insulted me like that, then they would be in Hospital for quite some time. THAT is why people do it online, they are "ever so brave" from behind a keyboard.... right? (If you have ever seen a photo of a Kiwi Rugby player, then you'd known why they would be in hospital... even with the cancer... I might have lost 10 kilo's in 3 months, but I still look the part... )

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3 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

Considering the inhuman behaviour of the masses, maybe you are right. 

To a point, you are right. But change starts with one person, then two... it starts with decent people saying "no more!"

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4 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

 

I would go for stuck-up, if that's a word you're looking for.

Seems to be a trend, people talking for others, assuming they know what was in the mind of the poster. Well, you're entitled to your opinion, its wrong, but then.... maybe that is you all the time? Wrong!

 

 

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39 minutes ago, Kiwi1960 said:

[on expecting everyone in the world to always be nice all the time]
Yes you can.

 

Well you keep living in your dream world then.

 

But if you get upset and quit everything because ONE PERSON calls you a liar, then it must be damn exhausting being you...

44 minutes ago, Kiwi1960 said:

In real life, if people insulted me like that, then they would be in Hospital for quite some time.

 

Healthy mindset there...
Get upset because someone calls you a liar demanding bans and whatnot, then immediately threatens to put people in a hospital for saying mean thing to him in person.

That's...uhh....yeah.
Insane.

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@Kiwi1960

My deepest sympathies for your condition and my most heartfelt condolances go to your family and friends, as I know all-too-well what it's like watching people you know slowly succumb to cancer.

 

However; you have earned exactly zero respect from me for trying to use your condition to gain 'sympathy points' on this message board. You seem to have a belief that somehow those of us on this board,

7 hours ago, Kiwi1960 said:

Can a staff member Email me a code I can use as a reward for returning to the fold... you know, because you missed me! :)

AND the developers, owe you something because you're dying, and I'm sorry to say that we don't.

We're all dying, some of us just quicker than others. It's a harsh truth, but a truth none the less. Just like how the anonimity of the internet breeds trolls and gives people more freedom in insulting people. You just have to grow a thicker skin and live with it.

Also,

7 hours ago, Kiwi1960 said:

Why? Because some child called me a liar.

49 minutes ago, Kiwi1960 said:

In real life, if people insulted me like that, then they would be in Hospital for quite some time.

Right.

I think you need to take a good, hard look at yourself, if you think putting someone in hospital for calling you a 'liar' is acceptable.

 

It's currently snowing here where I live. It's a little thing, but maybe with your limited time left you should be looking at the little pleasures and spending time with loved ones rather than coming onto an internet message board and whining about the way you are treated online.

Just a thought.

 

I hope you have a nice day, all the same.:Smile_Default:

 

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@Kiwi1960I'm kinda double on this post:

  • Either you are forum bait, in which case you are SERIOUSLY crossing the line by using cancer
  • Or you are legitimately suffering of cancer, in which case I too express my sympathies.

Now, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and believe all that you have said about yourself. With this in mind, I would reccomend, instead of interacting with an online playerbase, to spend more time with family, friends, make up with people you might never see again, visit those few places you might never have been but still want to (if your condition permits it of course). Just, don't search for happiness in the wrong places, especially if you will get offended by people online (no matter what unjust remarks they throw at you).

This is my advice, it's entirely up to you of course, either way, hope you recover soon!

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My friend has just had surgery for Bowel cancer identified as 4 years old and there is no way I'd expect from her what I am reading here. The last thing she'd do is threaten to put someone in hospital.... She wouldn't give a toss for playing games or whether or not someone had called her a liar and let's face it a years ago...Seriously??.. She has too much living to do before she dies and die she will. You want a reward...for what? Missing you... you are as insignificant or important as every other player here in this game... My advice forget the game and as others said go out and make the most of the time you have left if indeed you are terminal.

Your post is seriously messed up.

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Looking at that thread that seemingly made you leave, it shows nothing more than a useless rant and some baseless calling out of "N00BS". Maybe you should start asking yourself if you aren't part of the problem. Maybe you should also ask yourself why someone like waxx, who I know as one of the most polite and friendly persons this forum has to offer, would be frustrated with a post like that and would point out your apparent hypocrisy. Questioning others education and calling them cretins doesn't really help  your point, I have to add here.

 

Terrible if you actually have cancer, my condolences, but that doesn't really change my opinion on the matter. If your resilience to frustration really is that low, and in case you actually suffer from cancer, my honest advice would be to not come back, as no online game in existence will, or should, ever meet your expectations in moderation of player interaction, especially since you danced on those boundaries yourself. Enjoy time with your family, get into a more laidback experience like Total War or a Paradox game if you want to relax.

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5 hours ago, Captain_LOZFFVII said:

@Kiwi1960

My deepest sympathies for your condition and my most heartfelt condolances go to your family and friends, as I know all-too-well what it's like watching people you know slowly succumb to cancer.

 

However; you have earned exactly zero respect from me for trying to use your condition to gain 'sympathy points' on this message board. You seem to have a belief that somehow those of us on this board,

AND the developers, owe you something because you're dying, and I'm sorry to say that we don't.

We're all dying, some of us just quicker than others. It's a harsh truth, but a truth none the less. Just like how the anonimity of the internet breeds trolls and gives people more freedom in insulting people. You just have to grow a thicker skin and live with it.

Also,

Right.

I think you need to take a good, hard look at yourself, if you think putting someone in hospital for calling you a 'liar' is acceptable.

 

It's currently snowing here where I live. It's a little thing, but maybe with your limited time left you should be looking at the little pleasures and spending time with loved ones rather than coming onto an internet message board and whining about the way you are treated online.

Just a thought.

 

I hope you have a nice day, all the same.:Smile_Default:

 

I merely mentioned my condition to explain WHY I was back, I went into detail should anyone again call me a liar. However, your post was the next worst thing. Read what you said after the word "however" and you will see, like I have, that NOTHING has changed here. People here still take petty pot shots at others to feel superior to them, and like you, they make assumptions. For starters, I couldn't give a s**t whether its snowing where you are, here, its sunshine, a heatwave, I thought the "kiwi" in my name might have been a clue for you, but no... I'm in New Zealand and I do enjoy life IN THE DAY TIME, but I posted that AT NIGHT... on a public holiday .... it was New Zealand day yesterday (although we call it Waitangi day) ....

 

So, want to make any more assumptions? Feel superior to me yet? Nothing has changed.

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4 hours ago, gekkehenkie50 said:

@Kiwi1960I'm kinda double on this post:

  • Either you are forum bait, in which case you are SERIOUSLY crossing the line by using cancer
  • Or you are legitimately suffering of cancer, in which case I too express my sympathies.

Now, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and believe all that you have said about yourself. With this in mind, I would reccomend, instead of interacting with an online playerbase, to spend more time with family, friends, make up with people you might never see again, visit those few places you might never have been but still want to (if your condition permits it of course). Just, don't search for happiness in the wrong places, especially if you will get offended by people online (no matter what unjust remarks they throw at you).

This is my advice, it's entirely up to you of course, either way, hope you recover soon!

Another child, I assume, making assumptions. Go away, no one asked you to post in in my thread.

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4 hours ago, Migantium_Mashum said:

My friend has just had surgery for Bowel cancer identified as 4 years old and there is no way I'd expect from her what I am reading here. The last thing she'd do is threaten to put someone in hospital.... She wouldn't give a toss for playing games or whether or not someone had called her a liar and let's face it a years ago...Seriously??.. She has too much living to do before she dies and die she will. You want a reward...for what? Missing you... you are as insignificant or important as every other player here in this game... My advice forget the game and as others said go out and make the most of the time you have left if indeed you are terminal.

Your post is seriously messed up.

Yet another assumption.... what an idiot you are. Firstly, I have not had surgery, I don't need it, apart from the pain caused by the side effects, I feel fine. Its what they call cancer the silent killer. They found it purely by chance when my lung started filling with fluid back in September. Its inoperable... they cannot do anything for me... that it why they call it "terminal"...

 

I wished they could remove my lung, if they could, then maybe I wouldn't be in any condition to play games either, but they won't remove my lung because the cancer calls have spread to both lungs, if they removed the lung, it would only come back in the other one, what then? Maybe you better educate yourself before making offensive assumptions.

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Well, I got my answer. NOTHING HAS CHANGED! Make a post, get attacked... it never occurred to any of you that if you didn't have  anything constructive to say, DON'T SAY ANYTHING, but no, you all wanted to attack the poster making a complaint... did attacking me make you feel superior... yes, you're all wonderful human beings right, you HAVE an opinion and you MUST voice it.

 

Could a Mod actually do some work and lock this thread. I won't be back, maybe, if I'm still alive in 12 months time, I'll ask again.

 

Its no wonder the European WoWs is suffering a lack of players... the NA and Asian forums are so much better... sadly, my main account has always been in Europe.

 

The Staff at the help centre lied. This place is still full of entitled little children with opinions.... actually, assumptions... pretending to be opinions.

 

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34 minutes ago, Kiwi1960 said:

Well, I got my answer. NOTHING HAS CHANGED! Make a post, get attacked

 

 

No, there's a "slight" nuance you're just not seeing.

You made a valid thread at its core, but with some very odd, naive and simply unrealistic expectations for, well, literally any place on Earth be it virtual or not.
Once pressed on the matter that what you're demanding just isn't going to happen, you went ballistics, claiming that you would put someone in the hospital just for telling you one word that irks you.


That's just obscene !
You aren't being attacked because of your valid point, you're being critized on your hypocritical and downright violent posts where you go on the ultra defensive at the slightest hint of someone not agreeing with you at 100%
Take a good, long hard look at yourself and perhaps ask yourself if you are not white as snow as you believe yourself to be.
 

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1 hour ago, Exocet6951 said:

 

 

No, there's a "slight" nuance you're just not seeing.

You made a valid thread at its core, but with some very odd, naive and simply unrealistic expectations for, well, literally any place on Earth be it virtual or not.
Once pressed on the matter that what you're demanding just isn't going to happen, you went ballistics, claiming that you would put someone in the hospital just for telling you one word that irks you.


That's just obscene !
You aren't being attacked because of your valid point, you're being critized on your hypocritical and downright violent posts where you go on the ultra defensive at the slightest hint of someone not agreeing with you at 100%
Take a good, long hard look at yourself and perhaps ask yourself if you are not white as snow as you believe yourself to be.
 

Crap! I don't agree with anything you said, BUT I accept you said it AND have a right to say it. But none of you seem to understand my real complaint, so I'll spell it out for you. You all seem to think you can say what the hell yu like to anyone, even if they have cancer, because that is your God given right.... free speech.... but with free speech comes a responsibility to post with RESPECT! So if you don;t agree with me, then just say that, why the insults and subtle abuse? In fact, if you cannot add to the discussion as I started it, why post at all?

I wanted to know if things had changed.... thanks to you lot, I know they haven't... you all attacked the messenger, NOT the post.

 

And you lot think you are all OK.... you're not, you all act like your opinion is Gods gift to any discussion... I have news for you. Its NOT!

 

When will the moderators close this topic like I asked them to?

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