[FUSO] theta0123 Players 73 posts 8,185 battles Report post #1 Posted January 29, 2018 I never liked soviet ships. Even have some hatred towards them. Especially Kutuzov and Khabarovsk. Yet i find a huge urge, to play more DD then BB for a while. I already got the gearing, japanese DDs dont really intrest me. The german Z 46 is almost in my port. I need something new. And the grozovoi... looks like a fair ship to play with. So how does this tech tree works? Am i a gunboat? A destroyer hunter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #2 Posted January 29, 2018 They have the best guns and speed? In Soviet Russia, DD kill Cruiser and not the other way around... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #3 Posted January 29, 2018 Gunboats. But I am a history buff so the Soviet fantasy fleet is rather unattractive to me. The ships are pretty good though, like small cruisers with railguns and without citadel. Playing them from time to time but not in a rush. Have fun 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #4 Posted January 29, 2018 Yeah, just like he said... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[B0TS] philjd Beta Tester 1,806 posts 7,738 battles Report post #5 Posted January 29, 2018 Soviet DD's are like the ultimate kiting machines, just keep blatting away and hope that your kiting keeps you safe from hostile intentions as the torps are very short ranged up to the T8's (Leningrad/Gremy excluded). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FUSO] theta0123 Players 73 posts 8,185 battles Report post #6 Posted January 29, 2018 What advantages does the Grozovoi have over khabarovsk? Minus lower detection range Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colonel_Radec Players 520 posts 1,758 battles Report post #7 Posted January 29, 2018 Better concealment and access to defensive AA, also slightly faster shells if I am not mistaken. If you have no problem with trading concealment and maneuvrability for speed and raw gunpower, sure, go for it. But if you really want the Grozovoi, be prepared for the "glorious" Ognevoi on tier 8. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FUSO] theta0123 Players 73 posts 8,185 battles Report post #8 Posted January 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Colonel_Radec said: Better concealment and access to defensive AA, also slightly faster shells if I am not mistaken. If you have no problem with trading concealment and maneuvrability for speed and raw gunpower, sure, go for it. But if you really want the Grozovoi, be prepared for the "glorious" Ognevoi on tier 8. Seems like you convinced me. And i already have a 10 point captain leftover from selling a kutuzov i got from a container. So i can immediatly start Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #9 Posted January 29, 2018 The Grozovoi can stealth torp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #10 Posted January 29, 2018 Cruisers without citadels, what more do you need? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #11 Posted January 29, 2018 You hate some of the best ships in the game "Khaba and Kutu" :) Khaba is "THE" DD in T10 DD line. Others just follow. Then, of course it totally depends on your play style. Do what i did, get all T10 DDs and choose one according to your daily mood :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] tank276 [NWP] Players 891 posts 9,271 battles Report post #12 Posted January 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, theta0123 said: What advantages does the Grozovoi have over khabarovsk? Minus lower detection range What @Colonel_Radec said plus better torpedoes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDDQD] von_chom Alpha Tester 3,465 posts 11,649 battles Report post #13 Posted January 29, 2018 chat bitching about not spotting and not contesting caps in your Khabarovsk is priceless and never gets old 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UTW] ShinGetsu Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 8,985 posts 7,359 battles Report post #14 Posted January 29, 2018 25 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said: Gunboats. But I am a history buff so the Soviet fantasy fleet is rather unattractive to me. The ships are pretty good though, like small cruisers with railguns and without citadel. Playing them from time to time but not in a rush. Have fun B-but soviet DDs aren't pure fantasy ! They have an italian ship, and a russian-built copy of Capitani Romani ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LastButterfly Beta Tester 5,519 posts 2,939 battles Report post #15 Posted January 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, ShinGetsu said: B-but soviet DDs aren't pure fantasy ! They have an italian ship, and a russian-built copy of Capitani Romani ! Well actually, they have an Italian ship, a derivation of an Italian, two Italian blueprinted ships with Italian elements, ships derived from ships derived from Italian ships, a fictional copy of an Italian esploratori, and the derpzki supergroup. Ah, AND Grovoi. No idea what the hell is this thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #16 Posted January 29, 2018 Weel Guys, Gnevnyi class of destroyers DID actually exist and were known to be very good and tough destroyers during the war providing sterling service on all seas. Probably not embued with the same superpowers that in this game tho. Just Good ole' fashioned DD's and that's all. Leningrad, Tashkent, Udaloi and the others also are loosely (VERY) based on real ships. So they are not pure fantasy, however their gun statistics and speed is of course sheer BS "for gaming purposes" only. But then again, hey it is good to see that the much vaunted Soviet bias is alive and well. As far as I am concerned the DD line is fine (since, you know, most of them actually existed in some form or another). Of course, quite a few of the Soviet Cruiser line are pure paper ships that were never launched but at the least Comrade Stalin did have a good and lively imagination and some fantastical technical visionary artists. That's something to go on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #17 Posted January 29, 2018 44 minutes ago, theta0123 said: What advantages does the Grozovoi have over khabarovsk? Minus lower detection range Grozovoi is a good gun boat that is also a good Cap/torpedo boat. she can Also Feast on planes. 26 AA kills my top Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #18 Posted January 29, 2018 They still aren't my cup of tea. Have grinded it uptill Kiev. Trashcant research I got for free and bought it on sale. Never played the thing. I like the DD "mental warfare" play and I can't find this in the IMO 1 trick ponies: pewpewing with mach 5 and being a PIA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] Basti542 Players 2,350 posts 15,958 battles Report post #19 Posted January 29, 2018 High-Tier you got 2 fantastic DDs - Udaloi and Khabarovsk. They really shine and if you can Play them; you got insane results. Kiew, Tashkent and Grozo are also really good, but a bit worse then Udaloi and Khabarovsk. Whenever i want to have fun - i play them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #20 Posted January 29, 2018 Ogni at T8 is viable, build the captain and shop like a Torp Boat with Torp Acceleration and Concealment then you're away. The line doesn't really take off until T8 for me. Lenin is a crazy ship as you can do almost 50 knots with speed boost and flag. Plus you have 8 good torps for T7. The ability to flank torp in her is crazy and you can still outgun many DDs who try to intercept you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[B0TS] philjd Beta Tester 1,806 posts 7,738 battles Report post #21 Posted January 29, 2018 35 minutes ago, Negativvv said: Lenin is a crazy ship as you can do almost 50 knots with speed boost and flag. Plus you have 8 good torps for T7. The ability to flank torp in her is crazy and you can still outgun many DDs who try to intercept you. Concealment isn't bad either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #22 Posted January 29, 2018 1 hour ago, theta0123 said: e. And i already have a 10 point captain leftover from selling a kutuzov i got from a container. So, eh... nobody commented on this one. Ok... Can you give us your thought process behind that sell? I'm quite curious. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain_KriegWurst Players 126 posts 7,606 battles Report post #23 Posted January 29, 2018 RU DDs are the only DD where standard battle is fun. For instance: The Glorious Leningrad. Equip it with the 3 minute Speed Boost upgrade. Sail towards enemy on a flank until a BB is just within your gun range (You'll want AFT btw, stealth is for filthy western capitalists), start to turn away, hit speed boost and open up with the guns. You now commence spotting as half the enemy team returns fire revealing their positions. You then take evasive action and rack up the potential damage as an evasion tank. The more they shoot at you, the less they shoot at your team. It's also great fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #24 Posted January 29, 2018 21 minutes ago, philjd said: Concealment isn't bad either Yah it's actually good for T7. Only IJN stuff and that PA one besting her. 15 minutes ago, Captain_KriegWurst said: RU DDs are the only DD where standard battle is fun. For instance: The Glorious Leningrad. Equip it with the 3 minute Speed Boost upgrade. Sail towards enemy on a flank until a BB is just within your gun range (You'll want AFT btw, stealth is for filthy western capitalists), start to turn away, hit speed boost and open up with the guns. You now commence spotting as half the enemy team returns fire revealing their positions. You then take evasive action and rack up the potential damage as an evasion tank. The more they shoot at you, the less they shoot at your team. It's also great fun. That's one way of playing Lenin but she fits into the traditional DD role too. Sadly from playing both I finally feel like Lenin is better than Blys. Because of torps and speed advantages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #25 Posted January 29, 2018 The problem with Khaba is that if you find yourself as the only DD in a domination match you are pretty sc*eved. The line is fun ... Derzki at T3 is a funny little ship, so unique that you have to keep it. The Izy is powerful with his guns and is close to Clemson level. Gnevny is ok, but the slow turrets are something I hate. But its the first DD you can actually citadel low armored cruisers. Kiev is an insanely strong ship, but has similar problem as the Khaba. One ship I also like is the Ognevoi. Its basically IJN DD (torpedo boat) with laser accurate guns, but it only has 2 turrets (4 guns). Currently I can buy Udaloi and it is supposed to be a decent ship. Overall the line is fun. Actually its pretty fun and consistent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
