AlwaysBadLuckWithTeams Weekend Tester 1,469 posts 37,910 battles Report post #1 Posted January 19, 2018 Well, I guess there were no cruisers complaining this time.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #2 Posted January 19, 2018 this seems like fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #3 Posted January 19, 2018 Yes, thats the MM of the future... only BBs and 1-2CVs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #4 Posted January 19, 2018 With my luck... I will end up in a game like that with my Mogami as the only non-bb player... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #5 Posted January 19, 2018 Playing when server has the lowest population throughout the day - what did you expect? Also seeing peoples ranks before the game has ended - isn't that kind of not supposed to happen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #6 Posted January 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said: Also seeing peoples ranks before the game has ended - isn't that kind of not supposed to happen? What difference would it make? Rank is no measurement of skill especially late into the rank season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #7 Posted January 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said: Playing when server has the lowest population throughout the day - what did you expect? Well some people might expect the MM to take care of it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #8 Posted January 19, 2018 1 minute ago, MortenTardo said: Well some people might expect the MM to take care of it. Yea, it is extremely impolite of the MM not to wait for that lone hipper... Tsschhh. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #9 Posted January 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, MortenTardo said: Well some people might expect the MM to take care of it. It does. You sit in MM queue for 3 min, there aren't enough ships to make up a normal game so MM takes whatever is there and distributes more or less evenly between teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GURKA] Captain_Breeze Players 734 posts 32,141 battles Report post #10 Posted January 19, 2018 30 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said: Playing when server has the lowest population throughout the day - what did you expect? I play a lot through the weekdays as I work away from home for 1 month trips offshore. So when I'm at home for a month I can play then, and I have never seen a game like that....mental.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GURKA] Captain_Breeze Players 734 posts 32,141 battles Report post #11 Posted January 19, 2018 I saw a clip of Notser saying the Tears of the Desert will be changing soon........It should stop the camping behind the island chains. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #12 Posted January 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, bushwacker001 said: What difference would it make? Rank is no measurement of skill especially late into the rank season. Same reason as why we don't have XVM in this game - seeing bunch of rank 1s in the enemy team of bunch of 2Xs in your team may make people just go AFK or suicide as they refuse to play it. Also it lets you single out who's more dangerous target to you, and who's not quite so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] Panzerblitz Alpha Tester 411 posts 11,156 battles Report post #13 Posted January 19, 2018 Sometimes RNG works in your favor. Although this round was rather boring and ended with only ~140K damage, most of their ships ran and the ones that should have fought me, were on the other side of the map. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #14 Posted January 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, PzychoPanzer said: Yea, it is extremely impolite of the MM not to wait for that lone hipper... Tsschhh. I'd hate to be that lone Hipper tho... And this is likely to happen, since a) I own a Hipper b) I currently play Cruiser. This is precisely, why while I like to play DD when server has a low population, I avoid low volume times if trying to play Cruiser... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #15 Posted January 19, 2018 18 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said: Same reason as why we don't have XVM in this game - seeing bunch of rank 1s in the enemy team of bunch of 2Xs in your team may make people just go AFK or suicide as they refuse to play it. Also it lets you single out who's more dangerous target to you, and who's not quite so. I don't agree....very good players also don't play ranked at all, some just a few battles and bad players can get to high ranks with massive amount of battles. An xvm type thing in game would be pretty accurate, showing rank levels is not a guide to skill level. edit...quickly looking in the ranked stats, there are well over a 100 players with more than 550 battles in ranked this season, some over a 1000, most are lower than rank 10 with a few even at rank 1......most/all of these players can be classed as average at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GURKA] Captain_Breeze Players 734 posts 32,141 battles Report post #16 Posted January 19, 2018 Seeing high ranked players may make you play differently (less risky) if you were aware of the skill of the player. I prefer not to know and keep to my own style of play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #17 Posted January 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, bushwacker001 said: I don't agree....very good players also don't play ranked at all, some just a few battles and bad players can get to high ranks with massive amount of battles. An xvm type thing in game would be pretty accurate, showing rank levels is not a guide to skill level. edit...quickly looking in the ranked stats, there are well over a 100 players with more than 550 battles in ranked this season, some over a 1000, most are lower than rank 10 with a few even at rank 1......most/all of these players can be classed as average at best. If I have the choice to kill someone who's OMNI or someone who's YOUR_MOM_LOL I'll go for the OMNI guy - hes obviously the bigger thereat. Doesn't mean I recognize every single good clan - who knows if RNG33Z5 is a good clan or not, but some are clearly recognizable. Same thing here - not every good player will play ranked, but it allows you to easily identify those who do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #18 Posted January 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said: If I have the choice to kill someone who's OMNI or someone who's YOUR_MOM_LOL I'll go for the OMNI guy - hes obviously the bigger thereat. This stands to reason but you don't need a ranking number to work that out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GURKA] Captain_Breeze Players 734 posts 32,141 battles Report post #19 Posted January 19, 2018 25 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said: If I have the choice to kill someone who's OMNI Agree with that, I would try and target an OMNI player.....big threat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #20 Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, wilkatis_LV said: It does. You sit in MM queue for 3 min, there aren't enough ships to make up a normal game so MM takes whatever is there and distributes more or less evenly between teams. I guess its fine if they only stuff the overpopulated class into one game against each other. (BB's) As long as they keep others out of it. Its not fun when you are a lonely cruiser against 10 BB's and a CV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #21 Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, bushwacker001 said: This stands to reason but you don't need a ranking number to work that out. Which is why my comment didn't stop there. 1 hour ago, wilkatis_LV said: Doesn't mean I recognize every single good clan - who knows if RNG33Z5 is a good clan or not, but some are clearly recognizable. Same thing here - not every good player will play ranked, but it allows you to easily identify those who do. Should have red this part aswell 1 hour ago, Captain_Breeze said: Agree with that, I would try and target an OMNI player.....big threat. Or TTT. Or OM. Or VKING. Or ADRIA. Or TDM. Or whatever other clan I'd recognize that is competent enough to carry their team. OMNI just the most known example of EU. 1 hour ago, MortenTardo said: I guess its fine if they only stuff the overpopulated class into one game against each other. (BB's) As long as they keep others out of it. Its not fun when you are a lonely cruiser against 10 BB's and a CV. Cruisers own fault for playing a cruiser at that time. He had enough time to see how his MM will look like, those numbers are displayed while you're waiting. Same thing as late night ranked - you can see how many what type of ships are in the queue, you know if you'll have 5 BB or 5 DD game before its even starting to load. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GURKA] Captain_Breeze Players 734 posts 32,141 battles Report post #22 Posted January 19, 2018 1 minute ago, wilkatis_LV said: Or TTT. Or OM. Or VKING. Or ADRIA. Or TDM. Or whatever other clan I'd recognize that is competent enough to carry their team. OMNI just the most known example of EU. Yup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #23 Posted January 19, 2018 29 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said: Cruisers own fault for playing a cruiser at that time. He had enough time to see how his MM will look like, those numbers are displayed while you're waiting. Well. Its not the cruiser players fault that WG buffed one class to be so strong that almost every potato plays it all the time. Its WG's fault for not fixing their crap, and not having a proper MM in place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #24 Posted January 19, 2018 Sometimes it is indeed better to switch ships. I would have just taken a Shima after seeing that kind of queuing lineup, OFC that may not work, oftentimes you just get into game right away and have no chance to switch to a better fit (especially if in Cruiser, usually I have no queuing time at all). So it would be quite unfair to blame the unfortunate Cruiser player for the outcome in that case. Well, at the least, if it was his first game of the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miessa3 Beta Tester 1,650 posts 8,204 battles Report post #25 Posted January 19, 2018 3 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said: Playing when server has the lowest population throughout the day - what did you expect? Also seeing peoples ranks before the game has ended - isn't that kind of not supposed to happen? How do you know it is at a time with low playernumbers? I would expect the opposite with all those HighTier BBs in queue.... 2 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said: If I have the choice to kill someone who's OMNI or someone who's YOUR_MOM_LOL I'll go for the OMNI guy - hes obviously the bigger thereat. Doesn't mean I recognize every single good clan - who knows if RNG33Z5 is a good clan or not, but some are clearly recognizable. Same thing here - not every good player will play ranked, but it allows you to easily identify those who do. makes still no sense as still anyone can reach rank 1 with enough timecomitment (well almost anyone i should rather say for sure) How would you know the rank 1 players in this particular battle are the good ones? Yes it is more likely as i still believe there should be more skilled rank 1 players that overcomited bad players at rank 1 because of the good rewards ranked gives, BUT how do you KNOW this isn't the case in this battle before actualy playing it? 56 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said: Cruisers own fault for playing a cruiser at that time. He had enough time to see how his MM will look like, those numbers are displayed while you're waiting. what if cruisers get dragged into battle immediatly without enough time in queue to even press Esc or the back to port button? (actualy not that rare in cruisers like the post above me also says) On Topic: This is just the usual dumb cv player that doesn't know the etiquette of hightier CV to NOT stay in queue for longer than 3 minutes or a douche that just doesn't care. What happens is the MM takes it together with the first fitting CV that dares to press battle (again imediatly in battle without option to quit - see above) and 2x11 random ships he can find at this very moment not caring about class limitations only about general balance of the teams. So if the queue is looking like this: 1 CV 257 BB 3 CA 1 DD Then the result is likely something like shown in the screenshot..... (if another cv comes into queue) Nothing new really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites