[LEGIO] darkstar73 Players 648 posts 10,329 battles Report post #1 Posted December 16, 2017 Hello all. New Prermium ship :) Hms Cossac. Looks alot like Gadjah Mada :) Looks great :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #2 Posted December 16, 2017 6.6km base concealment? At T7? Are they for real? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #3 Posted December 16, 2017 1x4 torpedo tubes? meh... max speed 36kts? meh.. 3x2 120mm guns with 808m/s inital velocity.. expecting little better arcs than mahan, but not much... only thing great is concealment and hp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,982 battles Report post #4 Posted December 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: 6.6km base concealment? At T7? Are they for real? 6.6km with camo. 5.9km with CE 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPC] NoirLotus [CPC] Quality Poster 2,545 posts 13,201 battles Report post #5 Posted December 16, 2017 Great, another gunboat that will outstealth most torpedo boats on that tier ... And they also annouced Monaghan, a Farragut C-hull, but with better stealth than Farragut ... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #6 Posted December 16, 2017 It's Matabele (or Ashanti) Hvalfjörður would make a stunning port. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LDPDC Players 130 posts 6,670 battles Report post #7 Posted December 16, 2017 This camo (even if never applied to Cossak if I understand correctly) is absolutely stuning! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEAM_] Dampfboot Players 1,367 posts 11,386 battles Report post #8 Posted December 16, 2017 Bad guns and bad torpedoes, not really tempted. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] triumphgt6 Players 1,870 posts 22,638 battles Report post #9 Posted December 16, 2017 Shame is not really Cossack, which had 8 4.7" guns - would be nice if we got Captain Philip Vian with her - maybe with a refrain of 'The Navy's here!' However looking forward to getting her! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #10 Posted December 16, 2017 35 minutes ago, NoirLotus said: Great, another gunboat that will outstealth most torpedo boats on that tier ... 610 m turning circle at 36 knots so not that manoeuvrable and relatively easy to hit with BB guns, 1 x 4 not especially good torpedoes. Basically continuing WG's trend of DD designed to keep BBAbies happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #11 Posted December 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Dampfboot said: Bad guns and bad torpedoes, not really tempted. I'm just looking at your Gadjah Mada/Gallant stats. Very interesting... 2 minutes ago, triumphgt6 said: Shame is not really Cossack, which had 8 4.7" guns - would be nice if we got Captain Philip Vian with her - maybe with a refrain of 'The Navy's here!' However looking forward to getting her! Cossack only had eight 4.7" guns for 4 months before they swapped "X" turret in December 1939, even before the Altmark incident. Philip Vian would make an awesome captain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] triumphgt6 Players 1,870 posts 22,638 battles Report post #12 Posted December 16, 2017 I didn't know that - thank you! Did they swap it for twin 4"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #13 Posted December 16, 2017 I always liked the Tribals from a aesthetic point of view. Looking forward to this ship actually! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #14 Posted December 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, triumphgt6 said: I didn't know that - thank you! Did they swap it for twin 4"? Whoops, they swapped them at Thornycroft in May, just after Narvik. http://www.naval-history.net/xGM-Chrono-10DD-34Tribal-Cossack1.htm You can see the 120mm X turret here. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #15 Posted December 16, 2017 1 hour ago, triumphgt6 said: I didn't know that - thank you! Did they swap it for twin 4"? Yes X turret Became a DP(Duel Purpose AA) 102mm(4inch) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] triumphgt6 Players 1,870 posts 22,638 battles Report post #16 Posted December 16, 2017 Don't imagine it will be given secondary armament in game!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGB] iJoby Community Contributor 2,171 posts 30,925 battles Report post #17 Posted December 16, 2017 At last, a tribal class DD. WD WG and being the Cossack with a good history 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,982 battles Report post #18 Posted December 16, 2017 1 hour ago, creamgravy said: Whoops, they swapped them at Thornycroft in May, just after Narvik. http://www.naval-history.net/xGM-Chrono-10DD-34Tribal-Cossack1.htm Tribals replaced their X turret for dual 4" guns after Norway Campaign, to boost their AA defense. 20 minutes ago, triumphgt6 said: Don't imagine it will be given secondary armament in game!! Why not, Kiev 2x85mm are counted as secondary guns so I guess it would be same for Cossack. Same 4" guns are already a secondary guns on majority of RN cruisers and some battleships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #19 Posted December 16, 2017 WARGAMING NOOOOOOOOOOO just NOOOOOOO.. What are you doing prem DD after Prem DD after Prem DD..... My wallet cant cope. Just got Vampire. T61 probably next week, Aigle soon.. So far I have resisted the Kidd but a Tribal. If she costs the same as a tier 8 BB i will still get her. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #20 Posted December 16, 2017 1 minute ago, fumtu said: Tribals replaced their X turret for dual 4" guns after Norway Campaign, to boost their AA defense. Why not, Kiev 2x85mm are counted as secondary guns so I guess it would be same for Cossack. Same 4" guns are already a secondary guns on majority of RN cruisers and some battleships. I thought there was one just could not remember which one.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCBG] BrusilovX Beta Tester 2,838 posts 23,907 battles Report post #21 Posted December 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, T0byJug said: Just got Vampire. I unlocked her through the mission - it wasn't that hard to do. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] Cyclops_ Players 2,108 posts 36,213 battles Report post #22 Posted December 16, 2017 Mmmm, think I may just treat myself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmilyFara Players 1,091 posts 2,423 battles Report post #23 Posted December 17, 2017 As a dd main, this interest me. But too many premium dd's lately. It is saturating in my opinion. Premium tier 8, premium tier 6x2, now a premium tier 7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #24 Posted December 17, 2017 Much as I'd like to have an upper mid tier RN DD, 4 torp tubes and 96s reload? No thanks, it looks thoroughly indifferent, I certainly won't spend money to get that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,326 battles Report post #25 Posted December 17, 2017 51 minutes ago, BeauNidl3 said: Much as I'd like to have an upper mid tier RN DD, 4 torp tubes and 96s reload? No thanks, it looks thoroughly indifferent, I certainly won't spend money to get that. A hard pass from me too. Even the Monaghan looks more interesting than the Cossack, and that's a C-hull Farragut. This ship just doesn't tickle my fancy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites