dagas Players 13 posts 2,257 battles Report post #1 Posted December 10, 2017 Hello, wg say me, why ru cruisers start from tier 2, 3 , 4 ,5 ,6 ,7 8, all have same torp range -4km..... you buy better ship 1 tier higher , wich should have better stats but torp stats are in every tier same , starting from tier 1 and end in tier 8 cruiser ship..... expl, SHCHORS tier 7 cruiser a lot time mm put in tier 8 and tier 9 battles ,and this cruiser is usseles in these tier against bb because cant send torps, while you go near bb at 4 km range bb will kill in 2 shots that cruisers... now in the game you added usa cruiser i think ATLANTA it is super op ship !!!!! 14 guns and shoting without any reloading, and that thing is fckng invisible most off the time... you see atlanta in other moment you not see him anymore, but ATLANTA AK47 shoting at you without stop.... nice reall nice :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] sidlicious Players 25 posts 8,186 battles Report post #2 Posted December 10, 2017 Having torps on a CA does not mean you have to use them whatever the situation, torps on a CA are a last resort when in close combat. Reading your comments, I personally think your gaming experience would benefit playing DD's, since you like torping so much. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #3 Posted December 10, 2017 Don't play USSR CAs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NOHE] Turnipsi [NOHE] Players 243 posts 11,593 battles Report post #4 Posted December 10, 2017 The torps are not the same each tier despite having 4 km range. They follow the same upgrade path as RU DD's, they just get them a tier later. This means that each tier you gain speed and/or damage (both of which go quite high). These ships are all supposed to be played at long range. The 4 km torp range further cements the fact that you should never get close unless you absolutely have no other choice. But should you get close to these ships, the torps can be quite difficult to avoid. Even then, I have managed to torp an Izumo once from behind an island in the Shchors from stealth. As for your opinion about Atlanta: Shchors can easily hit enemies from it's max range at 17 km, while Atlanta has no other choice but to get 5-6 km closer to even have enough reach, and even then Atlanta will have a tougher time landing its shots. If you want torps that can be used at longer ranges in your cruisers, then you should play Japanese, British or French cruisers. Much like in German cruisers (but going even further than them), the torps in the Russian line are supposed to be used as a last ditch weapon and your guns are 95% of the time your primary means of dealing damage. That's why you get great gun handling characteristics as a compensation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGB] iJoby Community Contributor 2,171 posts 30,929 battles Report post #5 Posted December 10, 2017 RU cruisers are well balanced in the game, Budyonny, Shchors and the amazing Chapayev are great cruisers if played sensibly, the torps on these ships are also powerful if used at the right time and place and in most cases a last resort. If you are a player that prefers to just torp ships from a distance, the IJN DD's would be your best ships to research, but alas, I dare say your next topic will be the lack of speed and guns on those ships. Good Luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #6 Posted December 10, 2017 RU cruisers have better weapons vs BB than torps. Atlantas guns have to reload. The guns have a small range and bad balistics. If you do well in a Atlanta, you are a good player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #7 Posted December 10, 2017 2 hours ago, dagas said: Hello, wg say me, why ru cruisers start from tier 2, 3 , 4 ,5 ,6 ,7 8, all have same torp range -4km..... you buy better ship 1 tier higher , wich should have better stats but torp stats are in every tier same , starting from tier 1 and end in tier 8 cruiser ship..... expl, SHCHORS tier 7 cruiser a lot time mm put in tier 8 and tier 9 battles ,and this cruiser is usseles in these tier against bb because cant send torps, while you go near bb at 4 km range bb will kill in 2 shots that cruisers... now in the game you added usa cruiser i think ATLANTA it is super op ship !!!!! 14 guns and shoting without any reloading, and that thing is fckng invisible most off the time... you see atlanta in other moment you not see him anymore, but ATLANTA AK47 shoting at you without stop.... nice reall nice :) I guess you didn't figured out Russian cruisers are, surprisingly enough, long range spammers and firestarters instead typical Rush B cyka blyat. Torps are last resort tool or for ambushes around islands. If you want to torpedo people, play destroyers Atlanta is old premium ship, coming from Beta times. And she is quite unforgiving to play. Other way around, if you find she is so OP simply due to volume of fire, buy her and bully all the opposition Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-A] cherry2blost [BAD-A] Beta Tester 2,078 posts 22,300 battles Report post #8 Posted December 10, 2017 Hi Dagas... are you a steam user? You have 288 battles in Only Russian Cruisers, did you come from World of Tenks where all things Russian are OP? Maybe try a different line, if you want to fight toe to toe with Battlesheeps then maybe you too need to become a Battlesheep? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #9 Posted December 10, 2017 3 hours ago, dagas said: you go near bb at 4 km range bb will kill in 2 shots that cruisers... so... now that you with your mighty brain faculties have figured that part out... has it ever occurred to you that you could conceivably just not do that but just stay at range, where RU cruisers are strongest? Quote now in the game you added usa cruiser i think ATLANTA it is super op ship !!!!! 14 guns and shoting without any reloading, and that thing is fckng invisible most off the time... you see atlanta in other moment you not see him anymore, but ATLANTA AK47 shoting at you without stop.... nice reall nice :) oh dear lord... a) Atlanta has been in the game pretty much from the start b) with the amount of game knowledge you are demonstrating here, I would really like to see you play an Atlanta and then tell us how overpowered it is... sure, can be an effective ship, but it's incredibly hard to make work, compared to something as easymode as... oh... I don't know.. say, a Russian cruiser where you can just stay at range and let your railguns do the work? For an Atlanta to beat a Shchors, the Shchors needs to be stupid enough to get within 10km... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #10 Posted December 10, 2017 Never have I thought I'd see the day when someone accuses the Atlanta of all ships to be overpowered. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] WeGreedy Players 3,005 posts 15,010 battles Report post #11 Posted December 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Never have I thought I'd see the day when someone accuses the Atlanta of all ships to be overpowered. Come on... you're a carrier player. Atlanta has unlimited charges of DefAA, dis ship is so broken!!! Spoiler 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #12 Posted December 10, 2017 If 4km torpedoes make RU cruisers weak, then the Duca D'Aosta and its 12km torpedoes must be the stronkerest cruiser in the game ! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #13 Posted December 10, 2017 4 hours ago, dagas said: Hello, wg say me, why ru cruisers start from tier 2, 3 , 4 ,5 ,6 ,7 8, all have same torp range -4km..... IJN Cruisers: Furutaka -> Ibuki (T5-T9) all 10 km torps. Zao only 8km (btw Moskva doesnt have torps AT ALL!!!) German Cruisers: T4-T10 all 6 km Torps US Cruisers: Got Torps on T4 and T5 but after that not anymore But probably u will cry that they have longer torp range than RU Cruisers... But still they have same torprange across most of the Tiers. ADvice: Play DDs if u want to throw Torps. But dont use RU DDs 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #14 Posted December 10, 2017 I strongly suggest to not play any torp equipped cruiser as a DD. ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Migulaitor Players 748 posts Report post #15 Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, El2aZeR said: Never have I thought I'd see the day when someone accuses the Atlanta of all ships to be overpowered. You play carriers, come div with me and enjoy the "Atlanta OP" "Cheetah" "Fing camper" comments + if you use Saipan we will be called "OP premium division. Atlanta was powercreeped by belfast (And Flint, but its a rewards ship) increase Atlanta concealment to Belfast level and we will be talking about OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TS1] Runegrem Players 658 posts 8,162 battles Report post #16 Posted December 10, 2017 5 hours ago, El2aZeR said: Never have I thought I'd see the day when someone accuses the Atlanta of all ships to be overpowered. Eh, I'm not really that surprised. After all, when you face a ship you mostly only think about how dangerous it can be to you. And the Atlanta can be really powerful in the right circumstances. What's not as noticeable from an outside perspective is how limited and fragile some ships can be; the Atlanta being a prime example. Disclaimer: I do not own an Atlanta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SOKRN] IronFish_ Players 22 posts 1,943 battles Report post #17 Posted December 10, 2017 The Russian cruiser line is one of the best IF not the best of the cruiser lines. I ground them all up to Moskva. They don't need better torpedoes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #18 Posted December 10, 2017 11 hours ago, dagas said: Hello, wg say me, why ru cruisers start from tier 2, 3 , 4 ,5 ,6 ,7 8, all have same torp range -4km..... you buy better ship 1 tier higher , wich should have better stats but torp stats are in every tier same , starting from tier 1 and end in tier 8 cruiser ship..... expl, SHCHORS tier 7 cruiser a lot time mm put in tier 8 and tier 9 battles ,and this cruiser is usseles in these tier against bb because cant send torps, while you go near bb at 4 km range bb will kill in 2 shots that cruisers... now in the game you added usa cruiser i think ATLANTA it is super op ship !!!!! 14 guns and shoting without any reloading, and that thing is fckng invisible most off the time... you see atlanta in other moment you not see him anymore, but ATLANTA AK47 shoting at you without stop.... nice reall nice :) You are a victim of the lack of introduction to the game, ship classes, game mechanics, game meta etc. etc. to new players such as your self Wargaming is responsible for. No one should blame you for your ignorance on how to play the game when the game does not provide you with an opportunity to learn how it works. The best advice I can provide is to go to YouTube and try to find some videos that explain how the game works and the differences in gameplay the various nation tech tress offer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] triumphgt6 Players 1,870 posts 22,641 battles Report post #19 Posted December 10, 2017 Atlanta is made from paper, has awful shell trajectory (you can have three salvos in the air before the first lands) It also has joke torpedoes which if you are using means you are in serious trouble. It is hilarious to play but you can in one game be top of the tree and in the next instantly deleted. It is also fantastic against planes. Now if you want an OP version, look at the Flint! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] WeGreedy Players 3,005 posts 15,010 battles Report post #20 Posted December 10, 2017 7 hours ago, Migulaitor said: increase Atlanta concealment to Belfast level and we will be talking about OP. 8.7 km Atlanta? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #21 Posted December 10, 2017 41 minutes ago, SeeteufeI said: 8.7 km Atlanta? gib! nao! waaaaaaaant! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #22 Posted December 10, 2017 13 hours ago, dagas said: Hello, wg say me, why ru cruisers start from tier 2, 3 , 4 ,5 ,6 ,7 8, all have same torp range -4km Buy Crispy Creme... uhm... Crusty Chrome... no, wait... Krasny Krym have 25% longer torp range = 5 km ? winrar! And added to the greatly enlarged torpedo range You also gain the ability to hit the moon while shooting You guns at long range targets, just like the Spamlanta!!1111eleveneleven! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCWVE] pzkpfwv1d Players 1,122 posts 20,373 battles Report post #23 Posted December 10, 2017 Russian cruisers are basically the fire support platform for your front line units, if you get into torpedo range with a lower tier russian cruiser, you have made a serious mistake as they suffer from critical hit mega damage which offsets the rate of fire that they have Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Migulaitor Players 748 posts Report post #24 Posted December 10, 2017 3 hours ago, SeeteufeI said: 8.7 km Atlanta? Belfast has a higher caliber, better flatter shell arcs, more HP and better armor, dont know why not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NOHE] Turnipsi [NOHE] Players 243 posts 11,593 battles Report post #25 Posted December 11, 2017 25 minutes ago, Migulaitor said: Belfast has a higher caliber, better flatter shell arcs, more HP and better armor, dont know why not But Atlanta is so obviously OP that even dagas found out about it. Surely Belfast NEEDS all of that to stay relevant against such a beast? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
