anonym_IWDmAoWWysc1 Players 72 posts Report post #1 Posted December 8, 2017 Hi, how are you guys. I don't know what about you, but for me this game gone to be unplayable anymore, why? just see that screen shot and you will find your answer. Really, I tired to play every match with really bad CV players in any tier, and I don't know what is my fault that in every match I am playing with them! In most battle I am running out from enemy CV's planes and our CV just playing solo. I don't realise philosophy and existence of CV ships in this game any more! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BWOLF] Schumy90 Players 115 posts 5,681 battles Report post #2 Posted December 8, 2017 greets mate, from what i see, you need to become a CV player yourself, then you can start ranting about unskilled CV players 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MPT] AkosJaccik Players 920 posts 11,130 battles Report post #3 Posted December 8, 2017 Player sitting in a Missouri, complaining about airplanes? Huh. You see something new every day. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P-H] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts 12,646 battles Report post #4 Posted December 8, 2017 There are atleast 3 concurrent CV whine threads on the first page of the forum. Are we going for a record? OP has a Missouri so I don't see the issue, also staying with your team mates means the enemy CV will be blunted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 6,709 posts 7,492 battles Report post #5 Posted December 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Negativvv said: There are atleast 3 concurrent CV whine threads on the first page of the forum. Are we going for a record? OP has a Missouri so I don't see the issue, also staying with your team mates means the enemy CV will be blunted. Either of the Hindy's on his team would have worked me thinks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,528 posts 23,117 battles Report post #6 Posted December 8, 2017 Meanwhile two surviving Hindenburgs with no plane kills whatsoever. But yeah. Blame the CV. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P-H] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts 12,646 battles Report post #7 Posted December 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, lafeel said: Either of the Hindy's on his team would have worked me thinks. Every single ship other than the Kagero and Izumo (maybe GK too) on OPs team has the potential for some pretty fierce AA.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 6,709 posts 7,492 battles Report post #8 Posted December 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Negativvv said: Every single ship other than the Kagero and Izumo (maybe GK too) has the potential for some pretty fierce AA.... Indeed. And a pair of Hindy's and a Mo working together aa wise is something I'd personally keep my planes far away from. (caveat: not a CV player) Which is something you can use to your considerable advantage if you play your cards just right with such a trio working together on your team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P-H] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts 12,646 battles Report post #9 Posted December 8, 2017 1 minute ago, lafeel said: Indeed. And a pair of Hindy's and a Mo working together aa wise is something I'd personally keep my planes far away from. (caveat: not a CV player) Which is something you can use to your considerable advantage if you play your cards just right with such a trio working together on your team. Looking at the screenshot the friendly CV probably didn't do that badly. As in he didn't get farmed by the Mino and had his planes shot down by the Midway so he likely lost the air battle rather than being a total noob. The amount of AA on both sides probably means the CVs were forced into an air to air duel until the map and players thinned out a bit for some bombing. Although the fact OP shot down 45 Midway planes and didn't die means the enemy CV was likely doing it wrong (maybe should have bombed someone else? lol) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Commander_Cornflakes WG Team, WoWs Wiki Team 3,537 posts 14,936 battles Report post #10 Posted December 8, 2017 Noob Rule #1: Always blame the CV for everything. There is no CV? Blame Matchmaker for not giving you a CV to blame. Also confirmation bias. The matchmaker is random, sometimes you get the better CV, sometimes not. You just don't remember the matches where you had the better CV because you take his actions for granted. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 6,709 posts 7,492 battles Report post #11 Posted December 8, 2017 Just now, Negativvv said: Looking at the screenshot the friendly CV probably didn't do that badly. As in he didn't get farmed by the Mino and had his planes shot down by the Midway so he likely lost the air battle rather than being a total noob. The amount of AA on both sides probably means the CVs were forced into an air to air duel until the map and players thinned out a bit for some bombing. Although the fact OP shot down 45 Midway planes and didn't die means the enemy CV was likely doing it wrong (maybe should have bombed someone else? lol) Yea. Then again we weren't there. Still does not smell like the CV is (well, at least not solely) to blame to me looking at the ole scoreboard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_IWDmAoWWysc1 Players 72 posts Report post #12 Posted December 8, 2017 Guys, are you kidding all the time I was manoeuvring my Missouri to avoid enemy bombs and trops !!! I am wonder what is the role of friendly CV in game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CCR] Sargento_YO Players 1,441 posts 10,312 battles Report post #13 Posted December 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, MNR1357 said: Guys, are you kidding all the time I was manoeuvring my Missouri to avoid enemy bombs and trops !!! I am wonder what is the role of CV in game? Dude, you are the one who must be kidding for doing such stupid question. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Commander_Cornflakes WG Team, WoWs Wiki Team 3,537 posts 14,936 battles Report post #14 Posted December 9, 2017 Btw. why don't you make a division with a good CV player? You won't get a (maybe bad) random CV then ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RN] indycar Alpha Tester 921 posts Report post #15 Posted December 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, MNR1357 said: Guys, are you kidding all the time I was manoeuvring my Missouri to avoid enemy bombs and trops !!! I am wonder what is the role of friendly CV in game? while you were evading torps and bombs you helped your team a lot because at least 1/4 of your team would do way worse than you have and while that enemy cv was trying to kill you your teammates slowly chewed tru enemy team and you won. this is a team based game (also you get rewards for doing team stuff) not just who made most damage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,168 posts 13,234 battles Report post #16 Posted December 9, 2017 I love Spitfires* and the prospect of having a float plane Spit on Lion filled me with joy untold. So I run that magnificent fighter and... match after match no CVs on enema team. Ho hum. *Don't get me wrong. I am the Walrus co coo cachoo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NEXT] ColonelPete Players 34,758 posts 17,404 battles Report post #17 Posted December 9, 2017 1 hour ago, MNR1357 said: Hi, how are you guys. I don't know what about you, but for me this game gone to be unplayable anymore, why? just see that screen shot and you will find your answer. Really, I tired to play every match with really bad CV players in any tier, and I don't know what is my fault that in every match I am playing with them! In most battle I am running out from enemy CV's planes and our CV just playing solo. I don't realise philosophy and existence of CV ships in this game any more! Bad players make the game unplayable? Why did you not stop on Tier I? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaderan Alpha Tester 1,103 posts 2,737 battles Report post #18 Posted December 9, 2017 Thing is, most players get used to the fact, that the outcome of your actions is in many cases influenced by a huge impact on RNG. You throw torpedoes? Hope for them not to spread in exactly the way, your target requires to dodge them all. You fire some shells? Hope for RNG to be gracefull and not simply throw your shells into the water or only perform overpenetrations. Good players take this for a limitation of their own skills, bad players are provided with the impression, they are actually doing pretty good. Carriers, however, are the last, true skillbased class in this game (and i suck with them, so far). They are the class, were skill makes the difference. If we weren´t that spoiled with RNG everywhere else, there would be less reason to rage about skilled players being successfull (but maybe even more rage about bad players, though). However, nobody could use RNG anymore for an excuse... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P-H] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts 12,646 battles Report post #19 Posted December 9, 2017 1 hour ago, MNR1357 said: Guys, are you kidding all the time I was manoeuvring my Missouri to avoid enemy bombs and trops !!! I am wonder what is the role of friendly CV in game? Correct me if I'm wrong but you've killed 45 planes from a top tier carrier and it looks like you haven't sunk. And you complain? Also if the Midway knew what they were doing then you wouldn't be avoiding any torps, they would simply slam into the side of your hull with no chance of dodging... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 6,709 posts 7,492 battles Report post #20 Posted December 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Negativvv said: Correct me if I'm wrong but you've killed 45 planes from a top tier carrier and it looks like you haven't sunk. And you complain? Also if the Midway knew what they were doing then you wouldn't be avoiding any torps, they would simply slam into the side of your hull with no chance of dodging... A perfect cross drop is a wonderfull sight. Wonderfully terrifying that is, if you're on the receiving end. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culiacan_Mexico Players 2,844 posts 14,993 battles Report post #21 Posted December 9, 2017 3 hours ago, MNR1357 said: ...Really, I tired to play every match with really bad CV players in any tier, and I don't know what is my fault that in every match I am playing with them!... I checked some stats... CVs can be the most influential ship on our team, and it sucks when your CV player is 'poor'. There isn't much you can do about it other than try to adapt and know that the odds are 50-50 the better CV player will be on your team next game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veslingr Players 2,975 posts 477 battles Report post #22 Posted December 9, 2017 8 hours ago, MNR1357 said: Hi, how are you guys. I don't know what about you, but for me this game gone to be unplayable anymore, why? just see that screen shot and you will find your answer. Really, I tired to play every match with really bad CV players in any tier, and I don't know what is my fault that in every match I am playing with them! In most battle I am running out from enemy CV's planes and our CV just playing solo. I don't realise philosophy and existence of CV ships in this game any more! pls go back to wot....it will help this game alot and you will be far more happy there also before blaming others look at your not so good stats so you are part of the problem too p.s. before blaming your cv look at yours dds...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,864 posts Report post #23 Posted December 9, 2017 8 hours ago, MNR1357 said: Guys, are you kidding all the time I was manoeuvring my Missouri to avoid enemy bombs and trops !!! I am wonder what is the role of friendly CV in game? Team game anyone? You kept the enemy CV from going for weaker ships and he got so stubborn and determined about killing your ship he messed up. 45 plane kills and you are crying? I was playing my Amagi (AA spec) a while back and also got all the attention from a CV. I shot down 28 of his planes because he was so determined to kill me. I even baited him in chat after about 12 or so as I realized that he was not bombing anyone else and doing no damage to my ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sidlicious Players 25 posts 6,988 battles Report post #24 Posted December 9, 2017 OP must be under the impression that team CV is there to keep the sky clear above his ship......if a CV is stupid enough to waste his planes and time on a full AA spec (as I would spec the Missouri if I owned one) BB, I would be smiling through the entire battle.....sure, you where kept busy dodging, but as many People posted already about teamplay, you need to rethink before posting what you did. Seeing the amount of planes you killed, I would've been very happy with this contribution to the final victory. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #25 Posted December 9, 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites