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[wot_chikor]

this is a rant .

WG , pls tell me something .

how in the name of *edited* do you consider 10 games in a row lost random ? this is anything but random  , this matmacking is not *edited* random WG what are you doing to it ; how is it possible to not even have a single win for 4 hours gameplay what am i supposed  to do to get my +50% first win of the day in Hiryu ,,,, why WG give me an anwser .

normaly i have patience i am not a kid , i can undestand losing 3 games in a row .. 5 games in a row ... but 10 games ? its *edited* absurde . fix you *edited* rigged matchmaking  stop puting me in losing teams .

and for those of you who are going to start saying get good and its your mistake , i can post screenshots of those games to se if realy i am the one who is playing bad .

 

 

 

*This post has been edited by the moderation team due to insults.

[Tyrendian89]

maybe the fact that you're straight up really bad in the Hiryu plays a part in it? ever thought about that? CVs have the highest influence on the out come among all classes, so if you constantly let your team down because you are bad, they'll have a hard time carrying you...

[Gojuadorai]

10 losses is nothing unheard of 

 

with truly randomized MM  this in fact will happen (flat ends of the bell curve)

so it happening is evidence of the MM NOT beeing RIGGED!

 

[also] also what @Tyrendian89 said...

[Kartoffelmos]

Maybe you shouldn't play the class with the most impact if you are not good at it? If you don't carry (høhø) your weight, the enemy CV will harass your team either due to a scouting or striking advantage (possibly both).

[DFens_666]

Well... CVs are the class with the highest game influence. Seeing your CV WR/avg dmg/Avg Plane kills id have to say your influence on the game is too low in total.

Look at the enemy CVs what kinda players they were, maybe they were just better and managed to carry their team/outplay u..

 

f.e. i have almost same avg plane kills in Hosho than u got with Hiryu. Even tho seeing 2 CVs is not uncommon, they still dont have the same amount of planes than 1 T7 CV. And this is also WITHOUT Strafe option for me. You protect your team too little / dont get enough damage/pressure on the enemy team/CV.

[WashedandDeceased]

I had the pleasure of having you as a CV on our team. Based on your performance I would say that the result is anything but random

 

[philjd]

Sorry mate, but we all have bad days and losing streaks. You are having one of 'those' days.

 

I won't comment on your performance stats in any ships/types as you can read them yourself.

[Skyllon]

18 hours ago, wot_chikor said:

this is a rant .

WG , pls tell me something .

how in the name of *edited* do you consider 10 games in a row lost random ? this is anything but random  , this matmacking is not *edited* random WG what are you doing to it ; how is it possible to not even have a single win for 4 hours gameplay what am i supposed  to do to get my +50% first win of the day in Hiryu ,,,, why WG give me an anwser .

normaly i have patience i am not a kid , i can undestand losing 3 games in a row .. 5 games in a row ... but 10 games ? its *edited* absurde . fix you *edited*rigged matchmaking  stop puting me in losing teams .

and for those of you who are going to start saying get good and its your mistake , i can post screenshots of those games to se if realy i am the one who is playing bad .

 

*This post has been edited by the moderation team due to insults.

 

Loosing streaks do happen. I had one myself week or two ago. Just take a break or play different ship. I'm sure you are going to offset it with winning streak (which by your definition WG should also take a closer look at?)

[G01ngToxicCommand0]

19 minutes ago, Gojuadorai said:

10 losses is nothing unheard of 

 

with truly randomized MM  this in fact will happen (flat ends of the bell curve)

so it happening is evidence of the MM NOT beeing RIGGED!

 

[also] also what @Tyrendian89 said...

The question is if it even is possible to detect evidence of a rigged match maker?

[wot_chikor]

20 minutes ago, philjd said:

Sorry mate, but we all have bad days and losing streaks. You are having one of 'those' days.

 

I won't comment on your performance stats in any ships/types as you can read them yourself.

thatnks for the respectfull anwser , i dont claim i am good CV player because i am not , and i can  even understand losing 10  gmaes if i suck in all of them ; , but some games i get 160k dmg 30 planes kill 3 enemy kills and lots of spotting and still lose , this is the reason why i am mad , i did very good in 4 / 10 gams and average gmaes in the rest ...  

[wot_chikor]

27 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said:

maybe the fact that you're straight up really bad in the Hiryu plays a part in it? ever thought about that? CVs have the highest influence on the out come among all classes, so if you constantly let your team down because you are bad, they'll have a hard time carrying you...

thats a rude anwser , but as i said in the last comment , the reason why i am mad is in 4 / 10 gmaes i had very good results and still lose .... results like this while i was out tieed by tier8 and tier9s 

[lycea]

I don't want to be rude but if your average damage is 47 500k, with an average wr of 40.78%. Then posting the above screenshot is pretty much pointless. it only shows that bad players know how to farm damage from time to time (but lack the insight to actually prioritize the right targets and win) 

 

[wot_chikor]

4 minutes ago, lycea said:

I don't want to be rude but if your average damage is 47 500k, with an average wr of 40.78%. Then posting the above screenshot is pretty much pointless. it only shows that bad players can have good games. 

 

well we can see why my winrate dropped  after this day , but is 47k average dmg bad in a tier7 for someone who is new to this class ? dude i only learned what is strafing a week ago ... i played this ship with stock underpowred planes and hangers ... what do you expect ? and all i am saying is , if i have 4 / 10 gmaeslike this , why shouldnt it be a win ? why do i have to lose everything even games like this one ? 

[WashedandDeceased]

.. you do know that hangar size on Hiryu is the same regardless of hull, right?

[G01ngToxicCommand0]

The blame for bad game experiences such as the OP's is entirely on Wargamings shoulders and not the players that have to find out and learn every single game mechanic on their own without any help from either Wargaming or the player community. I can't blame the OP for his dissapointing and frustrating game experience.

[lycea]

7 minutes ago, wot_chikor said:

well we can see why my winrate dropped  after this day , but is 47k average dmg bad in a tier7 for someone who is new to this class ? dude i only learned what is strafing a week ago ... i played this ship with stock underpowred planes and hangers ... what do you expect ? and all i am saying is , if i have 4 / 10 gmaeslike this , why shouldnt it be a win ? why do i have to lose everything even games like this one ? 

Because farming damage and winning games are two different things. I suggest you to find some carrier guides on youtube (farazelleth for example) and try to learn from them instead of blaming the team and bashing the forums. 

[ForlornSailor]

To be fair:

 

9 minutes ago, wot_chikor said:

dude i only learned what is strafing a week ago

 

credits goes to WG for fkkup with T4 & T5 CVs which are totaly broken as of now +

 

2 minutes ago, G01ngToxicCommand0 said:

The blame for bad game experiences such as the OP's is entirely on Wargamings shoulders and not the players that have to find out and learn every single game mechanic on their own without any help from either Wargaming or the player community. I can't blame the OP for his dissapointing and frustrating game experience.

 this.

 

Its not like nobody said those things before either. But yea. Just buy a new premium ship meanshile. Working as intended?

[RUSSIANBlAS]

Go spot for your DDs who are contesting caps.

 

If you can TB, DB or spot them to death then that's the first step.

 

Then go after isolated targets or enemies who threaten your team's main force.

 

Also focus on protecting the main fleet with your fighters before going to bomb other things, trading is often not the best. Blunt their attack and have your turn at bombing unless you are skilled enough to do both at the same time.

 

Have a think about what to strike next but if you've given your team the DD advantage then the rest often falls into place.

 

For instance my Shokaku and Hiryu WR are both around 64% but my average Shokaku damage is borderline potato at 57k for a CV that has two T8 DBs and 2 T8 TBs. 

 

CVs are the ultimate team players, use the ships accordingly...

[YukiEiriKun]

But if you would have had 10 win streak it would have been because you are so good.

 

Random does not mean winrate of 50 in such small scale. 10 defeats are well within the nature of randomness.

 

So close the game.

Relax and calm down.

Go look at a mirror and tell the one you see to stop whining and play better. Or at least to stop tryharding and whining... And to learn what random means.

 

:)

[BeauNidl3]

How exactly is the matchmaker rigged? I've never understood those accusations.

If nothing else why would WG rig the matchmaking tool and on what criteria? What would they gain by it?

 

[The_Tyke]

IT'S RIGGED. 

 

No question about it

 

 

DISCLAIMER: Not every day is as good as today

[wot_chikor]

18 minutes ago, lycea said:

Because farming damage and winning games are two different things. I suggest you to find some carrier guides on youtube (farazelleth for example) and try to learn from them instead of blaming the team and bashing the forums. 

i have watched most of long vids and guides , but and learned alot from him  but i  have my own style of play , i prefer sendig fighetrs with my bombers to protect them , find a target and alph strike him or do 20k - 50k dmg ,,, i stop sometimes i counter enemy plaes sometime but mostly i like to focus doing dmg ...

[gekkehenkie50]

2 minutes ago, wot_chikor said:

i have watched most of long vids and guides , but and learned alot from him  but i  have my own style of play , i prefer sendig fighetrs with my bombers to protect them , find a target and alph strike him or do 20k - 50k dmg ,,, i stop sometimes i counter enemy plaes sometime but mostly i like to focus doing dmg ...

If you are unwilling to use the 'standard tactic', but find your own is unable to win games, then what else can we do to help?

[wot_chikor]

19 minutes ago, Negativvv said:

Go spot for your DDs who are contesting caps.

 

If you can TB, DB or spot them to death then that's the first step.

 

Then go after isolated targets or enemies who threaten your team's main force.

 

Also focus on protecting the main fleet with your fighters before going to bomb other things, trading is often not the best. Blunt their attack and have your turn at bombing unless you are skilled enough to do both at the same time.

 

Have a think about what to strike next but if you've given your team the DD advantage then the rest often falls into place.

thanks for teh tips , all the time i go with my fightes to spot first the cap and cover our DD but then i use all my groupes to do a full stike on a target ,,, its not the best style but i am elarning ....

[philjd]

36 minutes ago, YukiEiriKun said:

But if you would have had 10 win streak it would have been because you are so good.

 

Random does not mean winrate of 50 in such small scale. 10 defeats are well within the nature of randomness.

 

So close the game.

Relax and calm down.

Go look at a mirror and tell the one you see to stop whining and play better. Or at least to stop tryharding and whining... And to learn what random means.

 

:)

 

15 minutes ago, wot_chikor said:

i wnated so bad to ignore your stupid comment but i cant help it , you are an internet D1ck ^^

OP, you are being unfair in your response here, or have misread the post. There are times when some time away from the game will break a loss streak or set of bad games, even if it's just a quick cup of tea watching the telly (or whatever floats your boat :) ).

Most normal people suffer from Game Fatigue and a losing streak doesn't help that :)

 

(The language used was probably not the best, but the sentiment/message was fair).