balance Nerf Royal Navy High Explosive

[TheNamelessLegend]

As the name of this thread implies. RN high explosive, especially on battleships, needs to be nerfed majorly.

[Migulaitor]

1 minute ago, TheNamelessLegend said:

As the name of this thread implies. RN high explosive, especially on battleships, needs to be nerfed majorly.

Totally agree with you, cruisers HE is fine, no need to nerf it.

 

Playing the line, Monarch right now, the only one who felt broken was the tier 4 and they are pretty boring to play.

 

[Deckeru_Maiku]

46 minutes ago, Migulaitor said:

Totally agree with you, cruisers HE is fine, no need to nerf it.

 

Yep... RN cruiser HE should be an example for all other nation's cruisers HE.

 

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Ah well... another of the Brainless Legend's threads. He's really working hard to be a good copy of StarbuckCrying...

[rvfharrier]

As someone who's been burned to death by a Fiji in my Yorck, I can attest to the power of the HE on the RN cruiser's secondaries! Strong but not quite in need of a nerf, unlike the RN BB's HE.

[DanottiTR]

1 hour ago, TheNamelessLegend said:

As the name of this thread implies. RN high explosive, especially on battleships, needs to be nerfed majorly.

 

 Do not have any ideas before you have any knowledge ...

[wilkatis_LV]

1 hour ago, TheNamelessLegend said:

RN high explosive, especially on battleships

 

Naah man, I think that RN cruiser HE needs some tweaking, the whole line keeps spamming those HE rounds with no regard to changing their amo!!!

 

Love how this guy and another one recently have started to consistently post some of the dumbest things I've ever seen, laughing is good for your health I guess But no mather how dumb the post is you can always find someone even more spechuuuul in the comments:

 

1 hour ago, Migulaitor said:

Totally agree with you, cruisers HE is fine, no need to nerf it.

 

[Cyclops_]

OMG, here we go again 

[cro_pwr]

You all seem to forget that there are Belfast and (NOT SO RN) Perth in game...

OT: INB4 Mongqueror owners come here to explain us RN BBs are fine.
 

[Deckeru_Maiku]

Please guys... you all forget the horrendous amount of HE damage that RN DD dish out... So all join the cry: Nerf all RN HE damage!

[Migulaitor]

56 minutes ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

Ah well... another of the Brainless Legend's threads. He's really working hard to be a good copy of StarbuckCrying...

Really miss the guy... played against him during ranked, I used Shoka, he used strike Lexi, I dont know how he was able to say Lexi was a good pick for ranked games after it 

@wilkatis_LV do you see any reason to say "specially on BBs"? Im sure the OP tier 3 DD HE is broken.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

12 minutes ago, Migulaitor said:

Really miss the guy... played against him during ranked, I used Shoka, he used strike Lexi, I dont know how he was able to say Lexi was a good pick for ranked games after it 

 

Yeah, I know what You mean... seeing Starbuck in his pink CV in the enemy team always gave me that war, cozy feeling of being utterly secure...

[Shirakami_Kon]

Wait. You're telling me that Orion having better HE shells than Montana IS NOT OK?!?! 

[wilkatis_LV]

2 hours ago, Migulaitor said:

Really miss the guy... played against him during ranked, I used Shoka, he used strike Lexi, I dont know how he was able to say Lexi was a good pick for ranked games after it 

@wilkatis_LV do you see any reason to say "specially on BBs"? Im sure the OP tier 3 DD HE is broken.

 

Do you mean the Campbeltown?

 

Because if you do... I really hope you're not serious here

 

But just in case you are this would call for more than one facepalm at a time:

[indycar]

its not RN BB HE thats broken its every HE shell. there really isnt any downsides of using HE while using AP you get overpens, bounces, shatters,....

[Spellfire40]

49 minutes ago, indycar said:

its not RN BB HE thats broken its every HE shell. there really isnt any downsides of using HE while using AP you get overpens, bounces, shatters,....

and more damage in the right situations..... The problem with RN HE isnt that you cant do better if switch ammo. The problem is you get too good results without using your brain in the slightest and it nulifies actall decision making skill.

[Hedgehog1963]

5 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said:

 

Naah man, I think that RN cruiser HE needs some tweaking, the whole line keeps spamming those HE rounds with no regard to changing their amo!!!

 

Love how this guy and another one recently have started to consistently post some of the dumbest things I've ever seen, laughing is good for your health I guess But no mather how dumb the post is you can always find someone even more spechuuuul in the comments:

 

 

 

 

[Migulaitor]

11 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said:

 

Do you mean the Campbeltown?

 

Because if you do... I really hope you're not serious here

 

But just in case you are this would call for more than one facepalm at a time:

Yeah but not as OP as the cruiser line HE, those secondaries are sick, almost a fire per hit.

[piritskenyer]

14 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said:

 

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I agree with the OP, btw. 13.5", 14", 16", 16.5" and 18" HE shells on RNBB's are wayyyy too powerful. Historically the british did have a rather high HE filler weight

 

Now, there is two ways of going about it: 

1. Nerf HE pen to 1/6 calibre from 1/4 calibre - This is the way I would go, as this seems to be a more major issue, as RNBB's can citadel quite a few cruisers using HE, and then they set fires on top of it
2. Nerf firechance - this is also a way we can go, as KMBB's get away with a similar combo on their HE. Even with reduced HE pen the high firechance can make DoT stick, which may be a hair too strong

But anyhow, the combination of high firechance and 1/4 pen is just too much.

[Historynerd]

10 hours ago, indycar said:

its not RN BB HE thats broken its every HE shell. there really isnt any downsides of using HE while using AP you get overpens, bounces, shatters,....

Go try shooting HE with the Duca d'Aosta for a while, and then tell me how much that one is broken.

[_DeathWing_]

Nope. RN HE is good. No need for nerfs 

[Namolis]

Nerf the HE. Then give them a normal 33ms fuse time on their AP.

 

There. I just made the line 141% more enjoyable - both to play and to play against. You're welcome.

[Isalani]

14 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said:

 

Naah man, I think that RN cruiser HE needs some tweaking, the whole line keeps spamming those HE rounds with no regard to changing their amo!!!

 

Love how this guy and another one recently have started to consistently post some of the dumbest things I've ever seen, laughing is good for your health I guess But no mather how dumb the post is you can always find someone even more spechuuuul in the comments:

 

 

 

Lol you missed the sarcasm?

 

Guess you're right someone even more "spechuuuuuul" can always be found.

The irony ^^

[lameoll]

16 hours ago, TheNamelessLegend said:

RN high explosive, especially on battleships

ye well nerfing them on cruisers would be something hehe :D .

 

But ye  RN he is strong.

[BlackYeti]

Not sure if bait but...

I think for starters they could remove the /4 penetration from them as it is quite overkill especially at low tiers. KM has the /4 rule but really, really weak HE as a tradeoff...

[Jethro_Grey]

15 hours ago, cro_pwr said:

You all seem to forget that there are Belfast and (NOT SO RN) Perth in game...

OT: INB4 Mongqueror owners come here to explain us RN BBs are fine.
 

 

You summoned me?

 

As a Monqueror (and complete line of RN BBs) owner, i can attest that HE on the line is fine. Infact it's even better than fine!

I see nothing wrong about having 70%+ better damage output on the Monqueror - firing HE exclusively - than on my (already good) Montana, with a much better survivability (long range HE spam ftw!), frags, aso.

It's also perfectly fine to citadel cruisers with HE when sailing my Orion or any other lower tier RN BB.

It's a perfectly fine, that i get more arsonist awards in my RN BBs then in Kutuzov, Belfast, Zao and Henri IV and Des Moines combined.

 

Pls dear forumites, stahp demanding nerfs to that re7ardedly well balanced(!?) line of OP ships.

 

10 hours ago, Spellfire40 said:

and more damage in the right situations..... The problem with RN HE isnt that you cant do better if switch ammo. The problem is you get too good results without using your brain in the slightest and it nulifies actall decision making skill.

 

Exactly.

 

58 minutes ago, piritskenyer said:

 

 

I agree with the OP, btw. 13.5", 14", 16", 16.5" and 18" HE shells on RNBB's are wayyyy too powerful. Historically the british did have a rather high HE filler weight

 

Now, there is two ways of going about it: 

1. Nerf HE pen to 1/6 calibre from 1/4 calibre - This is the way I would go, as this seems to be a more major issue, as RNBB's can citadel quite a few cruisers using HE, and then they set fires on top of it
2. Nerf firechance - this is also a way we can go, as KMBB's get away with a similar combo on their HE. Even with reduced HE pen the high firechance can make DoT stick, which may be a hair too strong

But anyhow, the combination of high firechance and 1/4 pen is just too much.

 

Good suggestions there, +1.