[TPG] MiniBrit Players 63 posts 12,079 battles Report post #1 Posted December 5, 2017 Hi all! o7 Now that the USN CVs have got AP Bombs which have proven to be very effective and competitive when it comes to loadout choices, I have been asking myself why the japanese line does not get something like that? Here is what I propose: Deep water torpedoes as an optional loadout. Pros: Pad damage stats and WTR (the only metric for skill you need) More BB Dev strikes for YT compilations Inadvertently hurt cruisers more (similar to AP bombs) Forces you to not drop DDs so you dont have to feel guilty about being a crap CV player who farms dmg instead of killing the ships that matter Revive tier 8-10 CV sniping now that there is one shot potential (a brilliant and deeply (lol pardon the pun bois) missed part of CV gameplay) Cons: Makes HE bombs redundant, so WG pls add AP bombs to IJN loadout too thanks Planes have to fly lower to drop the torpedos lower in the sea so they will get hurt more by AA yes this is how it works trust me Other than that, none. Please do this before fixing the broken UI, AA creep or any of the issues CVs whine about for no reason at all (spoilt brats) Yours truly, MiniBrit <3 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #2 Posted December 5, 2017 To much effort to fix a issue that can be dealt with be putting CVs into their own game mode or allow players to choose whether they wanna see CVs or not. All problems solved! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostRiderMax123 ∞ Players 769 posts 3,782 battles Report post #3 Posted December 5, 2017 16 minutes ago, MiniBrit said: Tldr Yes please 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culiacan_Mexico Players 2,844 posts 14,993 battles Report post #4 Posted December 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said: ...allow players to choose whether they wanna see CVs ... I would be interest in seeing that percentage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UTW] ShinGetsu Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 8,985 posts 7,359 battles Report post #5 Posted December 5, 2017 How about no. Farm damage ? Who cares ? I want to win. Removing IJN CV ability to kill DD is basically the same as telling player to sell them all and go to USN CV. They have stronger planes, stronger HE bombs (while IJN ones are just a joke only useful to set some fires after DCP), and their torpedoes are already more powerful though with less planes, apart from Midway. That's just a stupid idea. CV doesn't need any more nerfs. I know this post is probably a huge troll, but I still need to post this. Btw, I took the opportunity to rant about those new USN CV's AP bombs : GREAT JOB WG making them as powerful as HE bomb but less effective (no fire) but giving them the ability to nuke CA instead. High-tier CA cleaaaarly needed some more opponent to nuke them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #6 Posted December 5, 2017 Fail suggestion. You do realise that DWT for a CV only harms their strike ability? Part of DWTs power is that they aren't easily spotted, that's rendered useless when they're dropped from planes. Being able to drop DDs with a CV is a fairly skillful thing. I get that WG probably want to nerf anything with a Rising Sun flag and chrysanthemum crest into the dirt but there's no need to encourage them to go faster. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #7 Posted December 5, 2017 actually i would like to see dwt on all cv just so they cant kill dds so easily and so they would become more anti bb weapon. but i know wg and that they would fail in balancing this and would just put more AA on BB cause they would be more targeted... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #8 Posted December 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Negativvv said: Fail suggestion. You do realise that DWT for a CV only harms their strike ability? Part of DWTs power is that they aren't easily spotted, that's rendered useless when they're dropped from planes. Being able to drop DDs with a CV is a fairly skillful thing. I get that WG probably want to nerf anything with a Rising Sun flag and chrysanthemum crest into the dirt but there's no need to encourage them to go faster. Pretty much this. DW torps on CVs is a mindless use of a buzzword. Also, WG doesn't hate every IJN ship, only IJN DDs and premium IJN BBs. Man, they hate those two thing with a passion. You can almost picture a dev in the game balance department with a picture of Tsushima on his desk, tears in his eyes. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[B0TS] philjd Beta Tester 1,806 posts 7,738 battles Report post #9 Posted December 5, 2017 29 minutes ago, Exocet6951 said: You can almost picture a dev in the game balance department with a picture of Tsushima on his desk, tears in his eyes. He did smile when the Mikasa was added though.... ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #10 Posted December 5, 2017 Guys... Considering the ridiculousness of some of the things he says, I'm sure he's not serious. Right? RIGHT? You better be. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Fat_Maniac [HOO] Players 2,337 posts 4,238 battles Report post #11 Posted December 5, 2017 IJN DW torps , what a wonderful idea comrade. And while we are at it lets give IJN bombers Barnes Wallis style bouncing bombs, can be used against BB's and cruisers but will bounce over DD's. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #12 Posted December 5, 2017 "Xaxaxaxaxa!!! Evil stronk Carriers need to disappear! Give them bad torps and call it a buff." @OP: while I like your sense of humour I am afraid WG could take this serious.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veslingr Players 2,975 posts 477 battles Report post #13 Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Jethro_Grey said: To much effort to fix a issue that can be dealt with be putting CVs into their own game mode or allow players to choose whether they wanna see CVs or not. All problems solved! No and no. Cvs are only thing that brings some kind of skill to this game. Removing CVS would dumb this game to Farmville level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #14 Posted December 5, 2017 3 hours ago, ShinGetsu said: (...) 2 hours ago, Negativvv said: (...) 2 hours ago, Exocet6951 said: (...) Guys. I really respect you all, but, seriously, has any of you actually read the post, especially the "pros" like "Forces you to not drop DDs so you dont have to feel guilty about being a crap CV player who farms dmg instead of killing the ships that matter" or the closing statement of "Please do this before fixing the broken UI, AA creep or any of the issues CVs whine about for no reason at all (spoilt brats) "? Guys. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,667 battles Report post #15 Posted December 5, 2017 3 hours ago, Jethro_Grey said: To much effort to fix a issue that can be dealt with be putting CVs into their own game mode or allow players to choose whether they wanna see CVs or not. All problems solved! Best solution. CVs were already excluded from CW for being broken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veslingr Players 2,975 posts 477 battles Report post #16 Posted December 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, 22cm said: Best solution. CVs were already excluded from CW for being broken. they were excluded not for been broken but for been to complexed for average WOWS player....many many wot players switched to wows and this game went to crapper......average IQ of wows player now is BRAINDEAD and WG is removing last bastions of skill in this game like angling or need for teamplay 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #17 Posted December 5, 2017 Torps that allow you to hit less targets are supposed to be better how exactly? IJN CVs are great at dropping & taking out DDs, this would just remove that option completely. So - NO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #18 Posted December 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, veslingr said: many many wot players switched to wows and this game went to crapper That would certainly explain the ridiculous amount of "peakaboo'ing" (spelling?) I have been seeing for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #19 Posted December 5, 2017 38 minutes ago, eliastion said: Guys. I call it a mix of 6 hour night, 12 hour shift, and seeing the worst of the worst in terms of suggestions on these forums for the past 2 years 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,667 battles Report post #20 Posted December 5, 2017 31 minutes ago, veslingr said: they were excluded not for been broken but for been to complexed for average WOWS player....many many wot players switched to wows and this game went to crapper......average IQ of wows player now is BRAINDEAD and WG is removing last bastions of skill in this game like angling or need for teamplay Dude they are broken. In WoT they limited arty to 3 per team, while in WoWs high tier carriers were limited to 1 per team. That says it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veslingr Players 2,975 posts 477 battles Report post #21 Posted December 5, 2017 1 minute ago, 22cm said: Dude they are broken. In WoT they limited arty to 3 per team, while in WoWs high tier carriers were limited to 1 per team. That says it all. i have really no idea why compare arty with CV....if you compare Yammato and arty i would get it.....but cv and arty.....no idea why Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #22 Posted December 5, 2017 22 minutes ago, 22cm said: Dude they are broken. In WoT they limited arty to 3 per team, while in WoWs high tier carriers were limited to 1 per team. That says it all. WoT also has 15 player per team, so having 3/15 tanks that can'( attack isn't as serious as having 3/12 ships that can't attack. WoT also has smaller maps, where it can only take a minute with a reasonably fast tank to get from one side of the map to the other, unless there's a huge hill you need to climb, meaning that having those 4/5th of all the tanks in a match more likely to fight, whereas 3/4th of all ships on larger maps, and less chances for them to meet would make matches more empty. Lastly, having 3 CV per side would make the skies completely full of planes. Unmanageable from a micromanage point of view. So no, CVs being more limited than WoT's arty is utterly meaningless. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostRiderMax123 ∞ Players 769 posts 3,782 battles Report post #23 Posted December 5, 2017 its amusing that no one saw the "B8" tag ;) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UTW] ShinGetsu Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 8,985 posts 7,359 battles Report post #24 Posted December 5, 2017 Look, I know it was bait. But I still had to say no. Because I'm afraid WG might take taht seriously. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-FF-] elblancogringo Players 1,207 posts 7,342 battles Report post #25 Posted December 5, 2017 or let the IJN planes fly underwater, no need of DWT like that, and they will suffer less from AA! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites