luggy62 Players 29 posts 11,092 battles Report post #1 Posted December 4, 2017 carriers should always be seen on the map (also minimap) so that they can be detected and chased from the start of the game, reason; carriers are cowardly killers, they attack without any concern to their own safety, all other vessels take a risk in shooting or using torps , but carriers are pure aim and kill! also carriers shoul be limited to attacking one target wit may 2 waves of aircraft, reason ; a carrier sends out his force against one ship, and instantly destroys that target, even if that target has all the aa he can get ! this is ruining the game, where is the ability to defend yourself ? battleships will be hit nearly 100 % and generally die, do we have to download cheats to be able to play fair ??? 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,741 battles Report post #2 Posted December 4, 2017 no lol cvs should not be seen on the map. would have more ppl hunting the cv and the cv would always be on the back line away from his fleet then. promotes bad gameplay more then it does good. also: post limiting would be an option as well :P ALso also: cvs used to be way better Imagine that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LastButterfly Beta Tester 5,494 posts 2,939 battles Report post #3 Posted December 4, 2017 Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. No. No. No. No. Have a nice day. Have a nice day. Have a nice day. Have a nice day. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAIFU] GhostRiderMax123 [HAIFU] Players 769 posts 3,764 battles Report post #4 Posted December 4, 2017 Are you for real? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,150 posts 11,801 battles Report post #5 Posted December 4, 2017 CV battles played : 0 Number of identical threads opened at once : 4 And no one was surprised. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 941 posts 14,131 battles Report post #6 Posted December 4, 2017 BAAAAAAAAAAITTT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azalgor Beta Tester 1,046 posts 19,583 battles Report post #7 Posted December 4, 2017 I bet people on Yamato/Musashi in WWII also complained a lot, Bismarck, Tirpitz, Prince of Whales... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TPG] MiniBrit Players 63 posts 12,079 battles Report post #8 Posted December 4, 2017 pls use condoms ;-; 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAKEN] ColonelPete Players 37,183 posts 18,452 battles Report post #9 Posted December 4, 2017 Someone is not aware that planes ARE PART OF THE CARRIER. They come quite close and can be shot down. Without planes a carrier is helpless. Or in other words: You do not need to sink a carrier to defeat a carrier. Edit: Over 6000 games and he is still missing the basics... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NIKE] Xevious_Red Beta Tester 3,412 posts 7,888 battles Report post #10 Posted December 4, 2017 Complains CV are cowardly killers Plays 6000 games with average tier of 4.5 inc 628 in isokaze. Ironic to complain that something must be done about cowardly play while bringing a 19pt captain repeatedly against new players Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noobsplatter Players 303 posts 3,401 battles Report post #11 Posted December 4, 2017 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NOHE] Turnipsi [NOHE] Players 243 posts 11,593 battles Report post #12 Posted December 4, 2017 Surprise surprise, not a single game in carriers. "Grass is always greener on the other side." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,150 posts Report post #13 Posted December 4, 2017 Ever tried playing them OP? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,866 posts Report post #14 Posted December 4, 2017 4 threads exactly the same OP? You are acting like a CV player using your threads as torps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] Spellfire40 Beta Tester 5,330 posts 13,776 battles Report post #15 Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Azalgor said: I bet people on Yamato/Musashi in WWII also complained a lot, Bismarck, Tirpitz, Prince of Whales... Tirpitz and Prince were sunk by land based planes thogh... OP: Your Aware that a CVs planes are its HP? the ship is only there for a alternate way to kill it....so its risking its atack ability with every Action it does.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaderan Alpha Tester 1,103 posts 2,741 battles Report post #16 Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, luggy62 said: carriers should always be seen on the map (also minimap) so that they can be detected and chased from the start of the game, reason; carriers are cowardly killers, they attack without any concern to their own safety, all other vessels take a risk in shooting or using torps , but carriers are pure aim and kill! also carriers shoul be limited to attacking one target wit may 2 waves of aircraft, reason ; a carrier sends out his force against one ship, and instantly destroys that target, even if that target has all the aa he can get ! this is ruining the game, where is the ability to defend yourself ? battleships will be hit nearly 100 % and generally die, do we have to download cheats to be able to play fair ??? Carriers are (or were) the last, true skillbased class in this game. They are only powerfull in skilled hands or against lowskilled targets. WASD hax are usually all it takes, even for a BB, to avoid most, if not all incoming damage from a carrier. CV planes can be seen from far away, so, if you consider yourself under attack, simply prepare for it by using WASD hax. Ofc, WASD hax is not required for sealclubbing...but it can only help to get used to them sooner or later... Before CVs need to be permanently visible on the map, DDs and their wall of skills need to become visible for everyone... don´t you agree? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,686 posts 25,599 battles Report post #17 Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, luggy62 said: where is the ability to defend yourself ? - get an AA cruiser - pick DFAA - wait until CV planes are close - use DFAA - watch as all planes get killed Alternatively: Stick with a cruiser that has DFAA. But I really like the idea. Please let them chase me so I can pick them off one by one. I can farm some potential damage this way, too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dCK_Ad_Hominem Players 1,176 posts 5,859 battles Report post #18 Posted December 4, 2017 Can we get a forum ban for a month or so please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] aidenthedestroyer Players 767 posts 7,805 battles Report post #19 Posted December 4, 2017 Me oh my another crybaby against carriers. Do you know what a challenge is to play CVs first of all? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,407 posts 19,374 battles Report post #20 Posted December 4, 2017 After this weekend, I feel there aren't enough carriers in the game! I was doing the USA BB mission (prompted in part by people's forum answers apropos the point of BBs), and every game in the Texas - you guessed it - not a CV in sight...! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] aidenthedestroyer Players 767 posts 7,805 battles Report post #21 Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Verblonde said: After this weekend, I feel there aren't enough carriers in the game! I was doing the USA BB mission (prompted in part by people's forum answers apropos the point of BBs), and every game in the Texas - you guessed it - not a CV in sight...! well all mustve beein in tier 8+ Murican CVs trying out the new AP bombs and making German BB players lives miserable. speaking of which, I did the BB challenge (Get 3 citadels) in Minekaze (got 10) how? well yknow how weak the Kuma class boilers are n stuff and close range shenanigans 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cosseria Players 1,064 posts 4,944 battles Report post #22 Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, luggy62 said: where is the ability to defend yourself ? Each day, many loving, adaptable cruisers are abandoned by their BBs. Those cruisers are helpless without their BBs and face brutal, quick death. Say NO to cruiser abandonment. Stick with your cruisers. They will never let you down. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,678 posts Report post #23 Posted December 4, 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cro_pwr Players 2,735 posts 10,310 battles Report post #24 Posted December 4, 2017 Show us where the bad carrier touched you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culiacan_Mexico Players 2,844 posts 14,993 battles Report post #25 Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, luggy62 said: carriers should always be seen on the map (also minimap) so that they can be detected and chased from the start of the game, reason; carriers are cowardly killers, they attack without any concern to their own safety, all other vessels take a risk in shooting or using torps , but carriers are pure aim and kill! also carriers shoul be limited to attacking one target wit may 2 waves of aircraft, reason ; a carrier sends out his force against one ship, and instantly destroys that target, even if that target has all the aa he can get ! this is ruining the game, where is the ability to defend yourself ? battleships will be hit nearly 100 % and generally die, do we have to download cheats to be able to play fair ??? 1. In a DD, you should not be chasing CV at the start of the game... let alone in a cruiser or battleship 2. CV risk their planes when they attack; and aircraft are the heart of CV play. 3. If you are constantly being taken out by CVs, then this is an issue with your game play. I am not saying that very good CV can't ruin your day, but how often do you face very good CV players? The truth is... when you have a CV in your game you must alter how you play. Find the adjustment you need to make to minimize an opposing CV effect on your ship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites