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The Ultimate Frontier It's *Edited

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On 11/30/2017 at 9:41 PM, milospesic11 said:

The Ultimate Frontier It's *Edited

 

Care to elaborate?

 

(I won't be able to play today)

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WHat did the klingons interfere and u did not get a cloacking device on your BB ? :o

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This mission is too difficult for dummies!  Clevlands Omahas and sort of aa superior chips fooling around, it is almost impossible to do some attack with carrier! The planes melt in seeconds in those aa's

I have played several games and lost last four. when i have checked the team is in genral with bunch of 43 wr players! So I don'T have any idea why the hell this mission is so hard? Do you gift banana or what?

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Only issue I have with this mission, similarly to other CooP missions is inadequacy of heavy cruisers. Lolanta ftw

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1 hour ago, milospesic11 said:

The Ultimate Frontier It's a big scam.

 

It is... no Enterprise, Klingons, Vulcans and "Jim Beam up, Scotchy"

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Hiryu is not suitable as there is an epic amount of AA, Kaga is better as you have a higher reserve of TBs.

 

I feel the best CV for it would be a Ranger as you don't get that much in the way of enemy air attacks, one fighter can handle them. Too bad I sold mine :Smile_sceptic:

 

Saipan wouldn't have enough strike potential. 

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1 hour ago, rageman4u said:

I don'T have any idea why the hell this mission is so hard? Do you gift banana or what?

 

What

 

Your nick fits af though.

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1 hour ago, Negativvv said:

I feel the best CV for it would be a Ranger as you don't get that much in the way of enemy air attacks, one fighter can handle them. Too bad I sold mine :Smile_sceptic:

 

Took Ranger for first try because i thought, spotting advantage (as the mission instructions from WG suggested) Spawned down in the corner (i think all CVs do?). When my DBs started i lost 3 when i spotted Mahan and Nicholas INSTANTLY. I was like WTF? Also not really enough BBs to torp/Bomb (only in the beginning) and someone needs to take care of the Pepsicola guarding them. Did i mention the Wyoming was also shredding my planes? Not sure how that was possible but he did it :cap_haloween:

CV = dont use it imo.

 

Tried double Fiji division, that worked best. Also some semi decent players. In the morning it didnt work because of potatoes. Evening first try = 5 stars, morning 2 tries = 0 stars lol...

I think good ships are:

Nagato because good Dispersion and big guns.

Fiji well obvious. Smoke and dakadaka. But better when u have 2.

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4 hours ago, milospesic11 said:

The Ultimate Frontier It's a big scam.

Yep. 2 tries, 3 and 5 stars. Can forget it now, so it is a scam because im not entertained for years to come by this mission. :Smile_sad:

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Tried all CV too. Really tough. Only ship I wasn't running out of planes after 10 minutes was Kaga.

 

Tried to snipe the Ranger instead, as she is there from the beginning. Guarded by a Cleve and two AA-DDs...

 

WG does not like CVs. :Smile_hiding:

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1 minute ago, Smeggo said:

Tried all CV too. Really tough. Only ship I wasn't running out of planes after 10 minutes was Kaga.

 

Tried to snipe the Ranger instead, as she is there from the beginning. Guarded by a Cleve and two AA-DDs...

 

WG does not like CVs. :Smile_hiding:

 

Yes, no way in hell is the Raptor Ranger being sniped as it has some epic air defence escorts.

 

I'm finding the same with Kaga yes, probably better off without a CV as long as someone can intercept the odd DB squadrons that come for the base on the West flank. 

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3 minutes ago, Negativvv said:

 

...probably better off without a CV as long as someone can intercept the odd DB squadrons that come for the base on the West flank. 

Made it without CV with Sims defAA and Colorado :cap_tea:

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28 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said:

ah. him again, calling something a scam. Happens every so often apparently, nothing to see here...

 

hahaha. checked his content. it was a funny read.:Smile_teethhappy: every operation is scam :Smile_child:

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5 hours ago, milospesic11 said:

The Ultimate Frontier It's a big scam.

 

Much post, such wow :Smile_child:

 

1 try, aced with 5 stars :cap_cool:

To be fair it's a bit sad that they have dumbed down the operation, it's way easier than it was initially on PTS

 

Well, now I just want to get the full IJN team with 5 stars, just to go correctly with the lore :cap_like:

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Tips :

- In the beginning, Nelson can solo whole Raptor group (Raptor, Cleveland, Sims and Farragut) thank to its superheal. Other BBs need 2 to be successful without dying due to concentrated HE fires. If you have 1 extra BB, that BB can go help the CA group in the east and kill Atlanta.

- Move Nelson or 2 BBs to F3, you can spot Raptor from there (Raptor has 11km sea detection range), engage Cleveland. If you can kill Cleveland fast enough, you can snipe Raptor while run away from the 2 chasing DDs (Sims and  Farragut). If you can't kill Cleveland before those 2 DDs join the fight, run away, focus the chasing DDs first and return to finish the job.

- If your team has a CV, tell the CV player to send 1 fighter 2 minimap cells from where Raptor is (H2). Raptor fighter won't attack it if it is kept at G4 or J4, for example. This spotting will allow you can snipe Raptor from safer distance. Just notice that Raptor will move when it HP drops below 50%.

- With my tactic, I removed Raptor from the battle before ~14 minutes mark without CV help and before ~15-16 minutes mark with help from CV or from another teammate. With Raptor removed, you can keep 3-4 forts intact very easily because those forts fear mostly DB attacks from Raptor.

- DD is not advisable for that operation. But if you insist to play DD, Akatsuki is the best due to fast torp reloading time and good guns. But you don't want to have more than 1 DD. DD job in that Op is ambush the 3 US BBs in the beginning, while fight off enemy DD attack. More than 2 DDs is a a burden to the team because there is a lot of enemies ship in that map and if you let one enter the haven, the airfield will be immediately focused and destroyed.

- CV attack on Raptor is futile, Raptor escort group has very strong AA and Raptor itselft has 2 full fighter squad, so your best bet is scout Raptor for your BBs.

 

Raptor sunk after 5 mins from the start

Raptor_sunk_after_5_mins.jpg

 

4 forts left and all enemies removed :cap_haloween:

4_forts_left.jpg

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As an extension of what @Darth_Glorious said:

 

The best picks for other 2 BBs are KGV and Scharnhorst

Their task initially should be to kill the 3 cruisers on North-East corner (altho now with the A.I. Aoba maybe 1 is enough?)

Omaha is the 1st one around  that small island, and then it's either 2 Atlantas or (on PTS it was a rare chance, maybe they have changed it for live) Atlanta + Cleveland

The reason for those is that Scharnhorst is smaller caliber and KGV has sAP -> other tier 7 BBs have too much penetrating power so they just go clean through the light cruisers :cap_haloween:

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5 hours ago, milospesic11 said:

The Ultimate Frontier It's a big scam.

 

Oh man, and why?

the first day the operation, a new operation is up and it's a big scam.

perhaps it's because it's new?

perhaps it's because you (you as in generally speaking) don't now how to play it?

perhaps it's because you went for it without a single clue how to do it?

perhaps it's because the community players (teammates) don't know how to do it, yet?

You know what...

Dynamo, Halloween and all the others.

 

 

 

 

 

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Got 5 stars first try in Scharnhorst which seems a really good compromise between BB and Cruiser for the fights with all the cruisers and DD's to blap.

The 4 star reward is a bit pathetic compared to the other operations which give 10 point commanders. I've no objection to Elite Commander exp, but the quantity is too low.

 

That said played the mission several times and it was fun each time so I'd call it a success.

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