TomBombardil Beta Tester 176 posts 18,711 battles Report post #1 Posted November 29, 2017 Releasing Pan-as DDs in the middle of clan war! Anyone seeing a #moneygrab here? WG has done ages to test, "balance" and tweak the new line. But they have to be released before CW is done, so there is more incentives to BUY your way up instead of grinding. WG allready pulled this crap with the conquer. Lucky most ,including me, predicted wrong about the CQ being a must have bb. But that didn't change the fact that it could have been. Literally CREATING a markt for it. And now there pulling the same stunt with th pan-as DDs. It doesn't matter if it a must have, or not. There is a chance it is! So spend your "insert value(flags,dubloons,etc) here"! Was it really necessary to introduce a other new tier X line now? And not wait till CW was over. AND show for a change that you care more about (competitive) gameplay than $$$. And showing care could even be done while releasing the line if WG really didn't wanne wait. Example, don't release tier X jet, but release the main line. Or exclude Pan-as from CW! And this specific instance isn't that bad of a #monygrab. But it is a continuation of previous once while claiming gameplay priority! Lies I tell you, the worst part is, they probably don't even realise it there lying. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #2 Posted November 29, 2017 tl;dr: Releasing a new line is an attempt to make money Thank you for such enlightening words. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culiacan_Mexico Players 2,844 posts 14,993 battles Report post #3 Posted November 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, TomBombardil said: ...AND show for a change that you care more about (competitive) gameplay than $$$... Seriously? Which do you think is more important to a company? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #4 Posted November 29, 2017 I'm sure someone would make up a reason why WG is doing a "moneygrab" either way. They can't win with some people. Besides, they can't just stop releasing stuff during CW and ranked. Makes no sense. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomBombardil Beta Tester 176 posts 18,711 battles Report post #5 Posted November 29, 2017 Did you scanned it? or actually read it? 16 minutes ago, Culiacan_Mexico said: Seriously? Which do you think is more important to a company? My Point, don't CLAIM to care about gameplay. If your usinge every advantage/incentive opportunityto MILK every singel $. instead of letting ONE small incetive pass in favour of the possabilaty that it inproves gamplay. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #6 Posted November 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, TomBombardil said: Did you scanned it? or actually read it? My Point, don't CLAIM to care about gameplay. If your usinge every advantage/incentive opportunityto MILK every singel $. instead of letting ONE small incetive pass in favour of the possabilaty that it inproves gamplay. Why are you bothered by it is my question? It's not like you even spend any money on the game. I get it now....jealousy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culiacan_Mexico Players 2,844 posts 14,993 battles Report post #7 Posted November 29, 2017 Just now, TomBombardil said: Did you both read this? or just scanned it? My Point, don't CLAIM to care about gameplay. If your usinge every advantage/incentive opportunityto MILK every singel $. instead of letting ONE small incetive pass in favour of the possabilaty that it inproves gamplay. A farmer cares about his fields, as long as it provides for him. WG only cares about this game in a similar fashion. Improving game play if it either expand the player base (cash coming in) or causes the existing player base to spend more is a priority. Them spend resources or ignoring increased income for your or my comfort... is not a priority. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] Captain_Singleton Players 3,184 posts 20,102 battles Report post #8 Posted November 29, 2017 ooh, they must be, because the pan asian's will be so useful against the one BB we're allowed to take into clan battles... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABIT] Tungstonid Beta Tester 1,568 posts Report post #9 Posted November 29, 2017 And now imagine WG publishing a statement saying "Hey guys, we will delay the release of all new ships/tech trees until CW is over because reasons." Sure, for the PA DDs it probably wouldn't have been a big deal, just some grumbling here and there. But if they had done that it with a significant line like, God forbid, the British BBs.... There would have been a $#1+storm all over the place. So in the end they had the choice between two paths with the same outcome (player's mimimi as OP proves) and chose the one with more profit for them. I don't see how this is a problem. And who even are you to want to spoil the game for the players who don't care at all about clan wars and rather want to grind new ship lines for fun? Do you seriously want to limit the development and expansion of the game's core content in the (questionable) favour of some nice-to-have gamemode? Btw: The Conqueror was released nearly 2 months before the first CW session. So how did they "pull the same crap" with it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #10 Posted November 29, 2017 58 minutes ago, TomBombardil said: Releasing Pan-as DDs in the middle of clan war! Anyone seeing a #moneygrab here? WG has done ages to test, "balance" and tweak the new line. But they have to be released before CW is done, so there is more incentives to BUY your way up instead of grinding. WG allready pulled this crap with the conquer. Lucky most ,including me, predicted wrong about the CQ being a must have bb. But that didn't change the fact that it could have been. Literally CREATING a markt for it. And now there pulling the same stunt with th pan-as DDs. It doesn't matter if it a must have, or not. There is a chance it is! So spend your "insert value(flags,dubloons,etc) here"! Was it really necessary to introduce a other new tier X line now? And not wait till CW was over. AND show for a change that you care more about (competitive) gameplay than $$$. And showing care could even be done while releasing the line if WG really didn't wanne wait. Example, don't release tier X jet, but release the main line. Or exclude Pan-as from CW! And this specific instance isn't that bad of a #monygrab. But it is a continuation of previous once while claiming gameplay priority! Lies I tell you, the worst part is, they probably don't even realise it there lying. No, I do not. Should they wait with the ships or make the season shorter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #11 Posted November 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, Salentine said: ooh, they must be, because the pan asian's will be so useful against the one BB we're allowed to take into clan battles... Im not sure if you knew, but PADD hit everything exept DDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMD] Spartan_93 [NMD] Beta Tester 1,137 posts 7,227 battles Report post #12 Posted November 29, 2017 I don't know, but maybe there are other non-clan-based-gamemodes. And for these gamemodes PADDs could be interessting right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #13 Posted November 29, 2017 Is there any reason to think that PA DD are a must have for CW? On the face of it the T10 looks like a less good Gearing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #14 Posted November 29, 2017 Oh yes, releasing RN BBs before CB was a cashgrab aswell, very few people had Conq for CB! And then if we REALLY look at it - CB is just one massive cashgrab, because not everyone owns every tier 10 ship, so those who do have an advantage, so really it's just meant to get more money out of us so we would buy our way to ALL tier 10 ships for the CB And then they said that CB will be seasonal and the battle tier may change so they actually will want us to own all ships which is a lot of credits and port slots and xp and modules and consumables and we would have to pay for everything otherwise we wouldn't have it! Thank you for enlightening me about this cashgrab, never would have thought of this myself! So angry right now! And for those with impaired sense of humor / sarcasm - rather obviously I'm not serious with that 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] WeGreedy Players 3,005 posts 14,998 battles Report post #15 Posted November 29, 2017 I don't think Yueyang is a must have destroyer for CB. #nomoneygrab 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #16 Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, TomBombardil said: instead of letting ONE small incetive pass in favour of the possabilaty that it inproves gamplay. oh get over yourself... they've "passed over" a practically infinite amount of possibilities to "milk us" more, and have actually actively removed a couple (like captain retraining from ship to ship, can now be done entirely for free with EliteXP)... yes, they are still trying to earn money, but not nearly as badly as they could. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] Captain_Singleton Players 3,184 posts 20,102 battles Report post #17 Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, ForlornSailor said: Im not sure if you knew, but PADD hit everything exept DDs. pretty sure they don't hit light cruisers too... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] WeGreedy Players 3,005 posts 14,998 battles Report post #18 Posted November 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Salentine said: pretty sure they don't hit light cruisers too... Quote 0.6.14 Update Notes Deepwater torpedoes carried by Pan-Asian destroyers can engage ships of any type except other destroyers. Being unable to torpedo other destroyers is a disadvantage, but their massive explosive power combined a small detection radius increases the chances of flooding enemy ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #19 Posted November 29, 2017 26 minutes ago, Salentine said: pretty sure they don't hit light cruisers too... There was literally just ONE test where it depended on draft, ever since they have always been DD = can't hit / not DD = can hit. How are people still confused about that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #20 Posted November 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said: There was literally just ONE test where it depended on draft, ever since they have always been DD = can't hit / not DD = can hit. How are people still confused about that? Ppl still think repair costs scale with damage received and how long has that been changed 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #21 Posted November 29, 2017 OMFG. What the heck are you talking about OP? Apart from some "glorious" YT vids we see from CC's we don't know zip S**t about the new line. From what I saw the PA DD line will be of little use in competitive mode like CW or Rank battles. But I'm not sure about that, cause tomorrow they will be released. You're talking about "money grab?" So I guess you go to your job for free huh? Wows has a huge player base in their SEA server. It's more than appropriate to serve those costumers. This game is F2P. Which manages to even make it very well possible to play without paying a dime. Even for the super unicums in the top tiers. But for me very mediocre player I still could make it brake even in the low or mid tiers when I didn't pay. I've invested in premium account a.s.o. Why? Because I love this game to death and I sincerely grant my RL cash to the people who made this possible. Yes I know WG has a lot of flaws and I've never shunned to criticize that. But IMO in the long run and in the big picture they managed to make a hell of a game for me. But seeing your BS about introducing a new line connecting to CW? Go play coop and don't bother with your whining please. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #22 Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Capra76 said: Is there any reason to think that PA DD are a must have for CW? On the face of it the T10 looks like a less good Gearing. 1 hour ago, Salentine said: ooh, they must be, because the pan asian's will be so useful against the one BB we're allowed to take into clan battles... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #23 Posted November 29, 2017 2 hours ago, TomBombardil said: Releasing Pan-as DDs in the middle of clan war! Anyone seeing a #moneygrab here? WG has done ages to test, "balance" and tweak the new line. But they have to be released before CW is done, so there is more incentives to BUY your way up instead of grinding. WG allready pulled this crap with the conquer. Lucky most ,including me, predicted wrong about the CQ being a must have bb. But that didn't change the fact that it could have been. Literally CREATING a markt for it. And now there pulling the same stunt with th pan-as DDs. It doesn't matter if it a must have, or not. There is a chance it is! So spend your "insert value(flags,dubloons,etc) here"! Was it really necessary to introduce a other new tier X line now? And not wait till CW was over. AND show for a change that you care more about (competitive) gameplay than $$$. And showing care could even be done while releasing the line if WG really didn't wanne wait. Example, don't release tier X jet, but release the main line. Or exclude Pan-as from CW! And this specific instance isn't that bad of a #monygrab. But it is a continuation of previous once while claiming gameplay priority! Lies I tell you, the worst part is, they probably don't even realise it there lying. Apparently after this season of CW there will be a season of ranked, so I guess WG can't release any new line for the next 6 months so as to not be accused of moneygrabbing. And after that even more CW. And after every line there MUST be 2 months of no competitive content so that people can grind without having to pay so that they aren't forced to buy a new line (whose usefulness in competititve still remains to be seen). /s I guess WG should just stop making new content then. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] WeGreedy Players 3,005 posts 14,998 battles Report post #24 Posted November 29, 2017 15 minutes ago, Ferry_25 said: OMFG. What the heck are you talking about OP? Apart from some "glorious" YT vids we see from CC's we don't know zip S**t about the new line. From what I saw the PA DD line will be of little use in competitive mode like CW or Rank battles. But I'm not sure about that, cause tomorrow they will be released. You're talking about "money grab?" So I guess you go to your job for free huh? Wows has a huge player base in their SEA server. It's more than appropriate to serve those costumers. This game is F2P. Which manages to even make it very well possible to play without paying a dime. Even for the super unicums in the top tiers. But for me very mediocre player I still could make it brake even in the low or mid tiers when I didn't pay. I've invested in premium account a.s.o. Why? Because I love this game to death and I sincerely grant my RL cash to the people who made this possible. Yes I know WG has a lot of flaws and I've never shunned to criticize that. But IMO in the long run and in the big picture they managed to make a hell of a game for me. But seeing your BS about introducing a new line connecting to CW? Go play coop and don't bother with your whining please. 2 minutes ago, Verdius said: Apparently after this season of CW there will be a season of ranked, so I guess WG can't release any new line for the next 6 months so as to not be accused of moneygrabbing. And after that even more CW. And after every line there MUST be 2 months of no competitive content so that people can grind without having to pay so that they aren't forced to buy a new line (whose usefulness in competititve still remains to be seen). /s I guess WG should just stop making new content then. Unfortunately I'm out of likes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #25 Posted November 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, SeeteufeI said: <snip> Unfortunately I'm out of likes. But I'm not.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
