[LEGIO] darkstar73 Players 648 posts 10,329 battles Report post #1 Posted November 27, 2017 Hello Guys. She´s finally here. Looks brutal to me :) Goodlooking :) Want one now :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #2 Posted November 27, 2017 Bah, I was hoping for 2x4 16"+ guns on the front but that would likely have been too OP even if the ship was lightly armoured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] dasCKD Quality Poster 2,376 posts 19,148 battles Report post #3 Posted November 27, 2017 Do we have a name? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #4 Posted November 27, 2017 Just now, dasCKD said: Do we have a name? "France" You know what? At least it's not "Baguette", so I'm not upset. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaderan Alpha Tester 1,103 posts 2,741 battles Report post #5 Posted November 27, 2017 Looks to me like an upgraded Gascogne. 431mm in quadruple-turrets... WG and their fantasy creations... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Gojuadorai Players 2,832 posts 21,712 battles Report post #6 Posted November 27, 2017 uninteresting at best.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #7 Posted November 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, Vaderan said: Looks to me like an upgraded Gascogne. 431mm in quadruple-turrets... WG and their fantasy creations... "Where is the X navy?! Where is the X navy?! Where is the X navy?!" The X navy gets teased "OMG why do you introduce blueprint ships, we don't need them in game" Because a line that would end somewhere between tier 6 and 8 would be exactly what you want, wouldn't it? 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COOOP] Shirakami_Kon Players 2,624 posts 12,776 battles Report post #8 Posted November 27, 2017 How much broadside has that thing to show to use all guns? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] dasCKD Quality Poster 2,376 posts 19,148 battles Report post #9 Posted November 27, 2017 She could be interesting. Fast, nice big guns, excellent sigma, and none of the BS 'what HE?' German BB armor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #10 Posted November 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, dasCKD said: She could be interesting. Fast, nice big guns, excellent sigma, and none of the BS 'what HE?' German BB armor. I have to agree with you on that one, the turret config is far from optimal, the name is a bit on the nose, but the big guns on fast turrets is at the very least interesting. A few more details, and perhaps tweaks could make her worth grinding over, say, a Montana or GK. Going on the image, I'm seeing twin 57mm bofors and twin 127mm/54, so HIV-like AA, which is pretty damn good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,881 battles Report post #11 Posted November 27, 2017 i hope they dont get those rtarded lowered citadels. so they can be punished harder if someone makes a mistake in them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snakecake Players 105 posts 7,261 battles Report post #12 Posted November 27, 2017 Found her namesake https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_battleship_France 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LegioDamnatus Players 37 posts 661 battles Report post #13 Posted November 27, 2017 Looks nice, but I was really hoping it'd have a turret placement like Richelieu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPC] NoirLotus [CPC] Quality Poster 2,545 posts 13,198 battles Report post #14 Posted November 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, LegioDamnatus said: Looks nice, but I was really hoping it'd have a turret placement like Richelieu. I did too, but it seems that WG standards on line consistency are not always applicable ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #15 Posted November 27, 2017 19 minutes ago, LegioDamnatus said: Looks nice, but I was really hoping it'd have a turret placement like Richelieu. It would be too strong. A fast BB with that sort of fire power would need serious balancing like very poor armour. As you would basically have 100% of your firepower almost all of the time regardless of your positioning. Dunker, Nelson and Nikolai all have amazing tactical flexibility as they can rotate their guns around their front axis. Shame as I'd have liked to see that setup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] dasCKD Quality Poster 2,376 posts 19,148 battles Report post #16 Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, ghostbuster_ said: i hope they dont get those rtarded lowered citadels. so they can be punished harder if someone makes a mistake in them. Consequences? For Battleships? What is this, 2015? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] WeGreedy Players 3,005 posts 15,010 battles Report post #17 Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, ghostbuster_ said: i hope they dont get those rtarded lowered citadels. so they can be punished harder if someone makes a mistake in them. Tiers five to eight have them in their current state. Only Richelieu's reaches just so slightly above the waterline. All others are completely submerged. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_XGuN6pHmfiJ9 Players 460 posts Report post #18 Posted November 27, 2017 beautiful ship. Ugly camo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #19 Posted November 27, 2017 Richelieu has full 32 mm torpedo bulge cover, 330 mm belt and 50 mm turtleback which make its citadel very well protected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #20 Posted November 27, 2017 Only 2x4 guns in 431 caliber ... and not even all guns up front. How is this ship supposed to be competitive with the other tier X BBs? Least amount of guns (tied with 457mm Conqueror, but no one uses that setup, for good reasons), and no fancy overmatch threshold like the Yamato, plus horrible turret placement (even if the rear turret has obscenely good firing angles it's still meh). I'm all up for not powercreeping every new ship line, but they should at the very least offer a competitive flavour and just looking at those stats ... uninteresting at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UTW] ShinGetsu Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 8,985 posts 7,359 battles Report post #21 Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) It will totally depends on the broadside armor and the turret angle to know if that ship will be very strong in good hands or utterly crap no matter the player. If it has to show its broadside to be even remotely useful, we better hope the armor can at least allows to shot two or three salvoes... If the angles are good, then it will be a Montana-like gameplay, always moving and constantly angled. The guns themselves are brutal, but with only 8 of them they had no choice. I really don't like that A-X though... A-B with quad 431 or A-B-X-Y with quad 380 were much more interesting overall. Hope they won't EDIT it up too much. Anyway I plan to go as far as Alsace first, and depending on what they do with that France I'll decide if I want to buy it. Edited December 1, 2017 by Kampa1987 Inappropriate language Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] Spellfire40 Beta Tester 5,330 posts 13,776 battles Report post #22 Posted November 27, 2017 1 minute ago, ShinGetsu said: It will totally depends on the broadside armor and the turret angle to know if that ship will be very strong in good hands or utterly crap no matter the player. If it has to show its broadside to be even remotely useful, we better hope the armor can at least allows to shot two or three salvoes... If the angles are good, then it will be a Montana-like gameplay, always moving and constantly angled. The guns themselves are brutal, but with only 8 of them they had no choice. I really don't like that A-X though... A-B with quad 431 or A-B-X-Y with quad 380 were much more interesting overall. Hope they won't f*ck it up too much. Anyway I plan to go as far as Alsace first, and depending on what they do with that France I'll decide if I want to buy it. Even exelent Broadside armor dont protets you agist pen damage. German BBs are a good example while you near never cit them you can easyly get 15-20k Pen salvos if they make use of their rear turets. I think the T10 has the potental for teh worst T10 BB with little redeaming factors others than high range.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WSW] ColorsOfRainbows Players 665 posts 7,534 battles Report post #23 Posted November 27, 2017 i LOVE the french line but i am sure i will stop at TIER8, 9 and 10 looks so differetn from playstale and rly not much fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartassNoob Players 723 posts 5,774 battles Report post #24 Posted November 27, 2017 Well I think it's great. Not that it would be an optimal design for a battleship, but for the game in general. Most of you would probably want all battleships to have the exact same boring Iowa layout. It's great that we have some weird ships that rely on unusual, or even unique tactics. If anything, we should have more weird ships. Like remember those weird english battlecruiser designs that could only have fired to the side and never directly front, or back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warsinger2 Players 261 posts 3,504 battles Report post #25 Posted November 27, 2017 Meh I was hoping for 3x quad 16" with an option for 3x triple 17" in A B X configuration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites