Alsace T9 Battleship

[darkstar73]

Just saw this on Facebook Alsace. A T9 French Battleship. It+s getting better and better. Such a beauty she is. Cant wait for the stats. Guess she will get 16inch guns :) 

 

[Verdius]

26 minutes ago, darkstar73 said:

Just saw this on Facebook Alsace. A T9 French Battleship. It+s getting better and better. Such a beauty she is. Cant wait for the stats. Guess she will get 16inch guns :)

 

 

Right now it looks like they will go with the 15" gun design. Which will probably be quite strong with 12 guns.

[tank276]

9 minutes ago, darkstar73 said:

Just saw this on Facebook Alsace. A T9 French Battleship. It+s getting better and better. Such a beauty she is. Cant wait for the stats. Guess she will get 16inch guns :) 

 

She is truly impressive.

And that degrading shade camo looks cool also.

[Gnirf]

Impressive Yes really wonder what they put up as T10. Yamato did exist and Montana existed as a design ready to build but the rest....What can we expect and want 4x4x15 or 3x4x16 inch?

 

[WeGreedy]

ST, French Battleship Alsace, tier IX

Hit points - 69000, plating - 32 mm, belt - 275 - 350 mm. Main battery - 3x4 380 mm. Firing range - 21.5 km. HE damage - 5400, AP damage - 11900. Reload time 30 s., 180 degree turn time - 36 s., maximum dispersion - 277 m. HE initial velocity - 830 m/s. AP initial velocity - 830 m/s. Sigma count - 2.0. Maximum speed - 30.4 kt. Turning circle radius - 910 m., rudder shift time - 23.2 s. Surface detectability - 16.7 km, air detectability - 15.1 km. Detectability after firing main guns in smoke - 15.4 km. Anti-torpedo defense damage reduction - 43%.

Available consumables:
Slot 1 - Damage Control Party
Slot 2 - Repair Party
Slot 3 - Spotting Aircraft/Catapult Fighter
Slot 4 - Engine Boost

All stats are listed without crew and upgrade modifiers.

[darkstar73]

22 minutes ago, SeeteufeI said:

ST, French Battleship Alsace, tier IX

Hit points - 69000, plating - 32 mm, belt - 275 - 350 mm. Main battery - 3x4 380 mm. Firing range - 21.5 km. HE damage - 5400, AP damage - 11900. Reload time 30 s., 180 degree turn time - 36 s., maximum dispersion - 277 m. HE initial velocity - 830 m/s. AP initial velocity - 830 m/s. Sigma count - 2.0. Maximum speed - 30.4 kt. Turning circle radius - 910 m., rudder shift time - 23.2 s. Surface detectability - 16.7 km, air detectability - 15.1 km. Detectability after firing main guns in smoke - 15.4 km. Anti-torpedo defense damage reduction - 43%.

Available consumables:
Slot 1 - Damage Control Party
Slot 2 - Repair Party
Slot 3 - Spotting Aircraft/Catapult Fighter
Slot 4 - Engine Boost

All stats are listed without crew and upgrade modifiers.

Not so bad :) Good torpedo protection. Maybe she will get bigger guns as a upgrade? Better precision than Gascogne. Very interesting ship. Wonder what the T10 will be? 

 

[JaiFoh]

4 minutes ago, darkstar73 said:

Not so bad :) Good torpedo protection. Maybe she will get bigger guns as a upgrade? Better precision than Gascogne. Very interesting ship. Wonder what the T10 will be? 

 

Prob a Variation of the N2 (3x3 406mm) variation of the Alsace Class, this is the N3 (3x4 380mm)
i expect it will be a 3x4 406mm (the mythical n4 :P)
 

[Verdius]

8 minutes ago, darkstar73 said:

Not so bad :) Good torpedo protection. Maybe she will get bigger guns as a upgrade? Better precision than Gascogne. Very interesting ship. Wonder what the T10 will be? 

 

 

I expect the T10 to be the same ship with some slight tweaks (AA etc) but the main difference being the speculated 431mm guns instead of 380mm.

[PseudoMi]

I think it is a matter of hours until the T10 official presentation.

[Affeks]

7 minutes ago, JaiFoh said:

this is the N3 (3x4 380mm)
 

This has the guns that N3 was supposed to have, but the hull itself is actually the N2 variant. 

 

If the hull was based on N3 then the HP would be around 80k HP, the around the same Iowa has.

 

[JaiFoh]

1 minute ago, Affeks said:

This has the guns that N3 was supposed to have, but the hull itself is actually the N2 variant. 

 

If the hull was based on N3 then the HP would be around 80k HP, the around the same Iowa has.

 

Prob Stock line stats as iirc the stock Iowa hull has only 69k HP and Hull B upgrades it too 80k odd.
a 13% improvement on HP (which is usual for hull upgrades) would bring her up to about 78K HP, which is pretty middle for T9 BB's

[Affeks]

1 minute ago, JaiFoh said:

Prob Stock line stats as iirc the stock Iowa hull has only 69k HP and Hull B upgrades it too 80k odd.
a 13% improvement on HP (which is usual for hull upgrades) would bring her up to about 78K HP, which is pretty middle for T9 BB's

I think so too maybe. The 23.2 second rudder shift really doesnt fit the high mobility flavor that the French are going for. For a B hull we would be looking at around 16-18 sec rudder shift which is fits the bill for the french.

[Tekacko]

Why do Battleships have to be faster and stealthier than cruisers? I really do not understand your logic when it comes to game balance, WG.

[Tungstonid]

24 minutes ago, Tekacko said:

Why do Battleships have to be faster and stealthier than cruisers? I really do not understand your logic when it comes to game balance, WG.

 

How is this thing better concealed and faster than CAs? 30,4 kn is slower than every CA on tier IX and X and the only CA with worse concealment is the Movska which is half a BB itself anyway.

Without any skills and upgrades that is. Not in the mood to crunch numbers right now.

[Tekacko]

17 hours ago, Tungstonid said:

 

How is this thing better concealed and faster than CAs? 30,4 kn is slower than every CA on tier IX and X and the only CA with worse concealment is the Movska which is half a BB itself anyway.

Without any skills and upgrades that is. Not in the mood to crunch numbers right now.

30,4kn vs 31,5 of the Hinden. But with speed boost it will be faster.

And it has only 200m worse concealment than the Hinden.

 

Except the Hinden has nowhere near enough survviability as this thing does.

 

But who gives a EDIT, the fact that there are usually 1-2 CA in high-tier matches probably means nothing, right?

[Mucker]

Now one has to wonder- will we see Richelieu or Gascogne in the tech tree? 

[robihr]

think they fixed the typo.. seems like it is t8

[wilkatis_LV]

4 hours ago, robihr said:

think they fixed the typo.. seems like it is t8

 

is it? I mean, they already teased 2x t8 BBs -> the one with layout like Dunkerque and the one with layout like Graf Spee. This being 9 would make more sense, unless the Dunkerque style one is scrapped

[robihr]

10 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said:

 

is it? I mean, they already teased 2x t8 BBs -> the one with layout like Dunkerque and the one with layout like Graf Spee. This being 9 would make more sense, unless the Dunkerque style one is scrapped

 

you sure that they teased 2 t8 bb? i think they teased only 1 t8 from normal line. and t9 doesnt make sense atm cause it is usually either ranked reward of free xp ship (they said that normally t9+ ships wont be sold in premium ship) and musashi will come soon. edit: this was regular bb :) thought it was prem

 

and stats would suggest that it is t8 ship. with 63k hp i dont think it can be t9 ship (unless they put british super heal).

[Darth_Glorious]

6 hours ago, Mucker said:

Now one has to wonder- will we see Richelieu or Gascogne in the tech tree? 

Richelieu is regualr ship while Gascogne is prem ship

[rigawe]

2 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said:

 

is it? I mean, they already teased 2x t8 BBs -> the one with layout like Dunkerque and the one with layout like Graf Spee. This being 9 would make more sense, unless the Dunkerque style one is scrapped

I highly doubt richelieu got scrapped.

 

It would be the same as scraping fletcher or Iowa.

[wilkatis_LV]

41 minutes ago, robihr said:

 

you sure that they teased 2 t8 bb? i think they teased only 1 t8 from normal line. and t9 doesnt make sense atm cause it is usually either ranked reward of free xp ship (they said that normally t9+ ships wont be sold in premium ship) and musashi will come soon.

 

and stats would suggest that it is t8 ship. with 63k hp i dont think it can be t9 ship (unless they put british super heal).

 

The first one (the one that is expected to be in the line) - the Dunkerque layout -> named something like Richellau

And then the 2nd one with a layout like Graf Spee was teased on DevBlog & mentioned on Forums yesterday - named something like Gascone (re-reading that I'm 100% sure that's not quite correct, Gas-Cone lmao)

 

And then this is Alsace, a 3rd ship for the spot

 

I mean, they seem to be fast (and maybe nimble? the rudder shift is not bad) so it's more the case of "battlecruiser" than "battleship" so I guess less health would make sense... then again, if they follow the same RN BB pattern of "Error 404: Armour Not Found" they really will need a good heal. But then once again their accuracy and range seem to be rather good, which could indicate that they are supposed to stay at long ranges and avoid taking too much damage that way

Looking at their stats I get the feeling that Amagi could be of a rather similar style to them

 

40 minutes ago, rigawe said:

I highly doubt richelieu got scrapped.

 

It would be the same as scraping fletcher or Iowa.

 

Exactly, don't think it was. And as that "Gas-Cone" (as I still don't remember the name and am too lazy to look it up ) is said by many to be the tier 8 premium - Alsace could be the tier 9

 

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One thing I don't quite understand is why do their 380mm guns get full 30s reload, don't the Monarch, Bismark & Derpitz have like 26s on their 381s?

[Darth_Glorious]

Because quad turret is more cramped than dual and triple turret

[JapLance]

6 hours ago, robihr said:

 

you sure that they teased 2 t8 bb? i think they teased only 1 t8 from normal line. and t9 doesnt make sense atm cause it is usually either ranked reward of free xp ship (they said that normally t9+ ships wont be sold in premium ship) and musashi will come soon.

 

and stats would suggest that it is t8 ship. with 63k hp i dont think it can be t9 ship (unless they put british super heal).

 

Only that Alsace HP is 69k, not 63k.

 

So far:

T3 Turenne: 34.4k

T4 Courbet: 38.2k

T5 Bretagne: 38.3k

T6 Normandie: 44.7k

T7 Lyon: 46k

T8 Richelieu: 54.5k

T8 Gascogne: 63.2k

T9 Alsace: 69k

[ImperialAdmiral]

Trully a magnifcent looking battleship.