Playing as CV sucks so hard

[Certios]

32 minutes ago, SinkTheOthersNotMe said:

Well you should L2P CV, top CV players don't have your problems. Also about other ship classes you really should L2P at lower tiers first starting with the basics such as angling, knowing your ship and other ships, WASD'ing and so on.

 

About premium ships you do what you want with your money but they are the best credit makers.......

 

 

I got the Bogue now and specced it with 2 squad attack planes, and that kinda took care of the problem, now the enemy cv dont have any planes left after 5 min :)

it goes alot better now, hardly any issues at al with other cv, they try to attack and once there bombers are gone they leave me alone then i take my 2 squads and camp there cv so if they do take off agian they get shoot down, and my bomber can go in peace to bomb DD’s.

i have played the basic with BB’s up to fuso and Colorado

 

Regarding my premium ship, i can only play one ship at the time so why have like 10 ships, for me that dont make sense, i got 2 CV one ijn and one usn that i switch between so i farm both lines, i got 2 premium ship i love if i get bored of cv so for me thats more then enough ships to play with. CL and DD class i tried and dont like, so i got me 4 ship the i enjoy playing and iam happy with that. Yes i lost some real money, but really i dont mind since this is my only hobby i can do with 5 kids and a 260 hours a month job so sorry if i upset anyone when i sold my premium ships i bought with my money to make my game more fun. Thx for the help and pointers guys

[Sargento_YO]

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[Sargento_YO]

 

Well, I have lots of fun in my Zuiho. And I allways try to be as close to the main battle as possible.
However, the few times I lose almost allways was because the entire fleet went towards the edge of the map leaving me alone (and unable to hide, I got targeted by long range plunging fire, damn cowards, attacking a defenseless carrier, people without honor)

 

42 minutes ago, Certios said:

I got the Bogue now and specced it with 2 squad attack planes, and that kinda took care of the problem, now the enemy cv dont have any planes left after 5 min :)

 

 

In my Zuiho I munch AS Bogues for breakfast.

[Certios]

Just finished a game agianst a Zuiho, he tried to escape my planes but i disable his bombers, he couldnt do much at all :P Love the loadout with more attackplanes

[Sargento_YO]

It's way too easy to neutralize enemy planes with AS Bogue. Specially Zuiho's ones. It's the way it's supposed to happen, like a cat catching and killing a mouse. Whats not so common it's when the mouse kills the cat. In this case, Zuiho uterly defeating Bogue's AS.

I will really miss AS Bogues when WG changes the loadouts. And I really fear people will start complaining that Bogue it's useless against Zuiho and start crying about nerfing the Zuiho (and by extension, all IJN carriers)

 

 

 

One of my many battles against an AS Bogue.

 

Btw... I tought I was the only one who had that weird bug about having the clan names in different colours.

[Certios]

Well i do play both ijn and usn but since i got bogue i dont play anything else except that one, i do great with it and never lose a dogfight with it. last round i play just now i we where 4 cv´s and that was like heaven for me lol

I do not Think that ijn is better then us, in the us when i play the other cv dont have a chance to drop bombs and torps but when they are 2 cv´s its harder to keep track of all planes

[Sargento_YO]

2 minutes ago, Certios said:

Well i do play both ijn and usn but since i got bogue i dont play anything else except that one, i do great with it and never lose a dogfight with it. last round i play just now i we where 4 cv´s and that was like heaven for me lol

I do not Think that ijn is better then us, in the us when i play the other cv dont have a chance to drop bombs and torps but when they are 2 cv´s its harder to keep track of all planes

 

I see your 41 and raise to 50.

 

 

My record (and number 1 in Zuiho, EU server) it's 57 planes shoot down in a single battle. Altought that one was back when tier 5 carriers could do manual attacks (and hence strafes)

[Certios]

Sweet :P 

 

[LongJohn_]

I guess you can do way over 50 planekills in AS Bogue even then you dont sink 5 skips, get Kraken and lead the scoreboard. 

 

Higher tiers AS loadouts are almost useless. I dont say they are good even lower tiers. Just think about it. Your damage dealing weapons are very limited so you live and die from planekills. Even if you do that 100% perfectly, kill all planes enemy CV ever has... You still score 0-0 in football terms. Sure you can do some spotting and maybe and ninja kill or two on badly damaged targets but thats it. If enemy CV, for example Zuiho, gets even one succesful torp attack done before losing its planes that Zuiho has done more for the game and their team than you. 

[Certios]

2 minutes ago, LongJohn_ said:

I guess you can do way over 50 planekills in AS Bogue even then you dont sink 5 skips, get Kraken and lead the scoreboard. 

 

Higher tiers AS loadouts are almost useless. I dont say they are good even lower tiers. Just think about it. Your damage dealing weapons are very limited so you live and die from planekills. Even if you do that 100% perfectly, kill all planes enemy CV ever has... You still score 0-0 in football terms. Sure you can do some spotting and maybe and ninja kill or two on badly damaged targets but thats it. If enemy CV, for example Zuiho, gets even one succesful torp attack done before losing its planes that Zuiho has done more for the game and their team than you. 

You do have a point here, didnt see it like that at all, i was more focused on killing cv planes to make sure he dont kill..

[pra3y]

51 minutes ago, Sargento_YO said:

 

I see your 41 and raise to 50.

 

 

My record (and number 1 in Zuiho, EU server) it's 57 planes shoot down in a single battle. Altought that one was back when tier 5 carriers could do manual attacks (and hence strafes)

 

Pfft I raise it to 52, using 1 fighter squadron only and being the lowest tier CV in that game 

 

[RUSSIANBlAS]

1 hour ago, LongJohn_ said:

I guess you can do way over 50 planekills in AS Bogue even then you dont sink 5 skips, get Kraken and lead the scoreboard. 

 

Higher tiers AS loadouts are almost useless. I dont say they are good even lower tiers. Just think about it. Your damage dealing weapons are very limited so you live and die from planekills. Even if you do that 100% perfectly, kill all planes enemy CV ever has... You still score 0-0 in football terms. Sure you can do some spotting and maybe and ninja kill or two on badly damaged targets but thats it. If enemy CV, for example Zuiho, gets even one succesful torp attack done before losing its planes that Zuiho has done more for the game and their team than you. 

A double DB AS Ranger can stack some fire damage on BBs. Sure it's not great but there's a good chance you can do 50k+ across a game on the right targets. Providing you can harvest enemy planes then you'll come out on top.

 

Still AS is miserable to play and play against. I'm glad they're killing it for USN soon.

[Certios]

1 minute ago, Negativvv said:

I'm glad they're killing it for USN soon.

What do you mean?

[RUSSIANBlAS]

4 minutes ago, Certios said:

What do you mean?

WG are adopting a single deck for USN CVs next patch...

 

They're basically a strike loadout with a fighter or a regular standard deck with an extra DB. Until you get to T9+ but that won't concern you for awhile.

[Certios]

Oh i see, Thx for the info

[LongJohn_]

10 minutes ago, Negativvv said:

WG are adopting a single deck for USN CVs next patch...

 

They're basically a strike loadout with a fighter or a regular standard deck with an extra DB. Until you get to T9+ but that won't concern you for awhile.

 

Actually it does. How did the Bogue loadout change? It did lose its AS loadout. 1-1-1?

[Sargento_YO]

1 hour ago, pra3y said:

 

Pfft I raise it to 52, using 1 fighter squadron only and being the lowest tier CV in that game 

 

 

Really nice.

 

About the change of USN loadouts. I barely play USN carriers, but I really don't like the idea. Lots of people will complain about it and will cry that the IJN carriers must be nerfed as well, and it's THEN when I will be affected.

[Certios]

2 hours ago, LongJohn_ said:

I guess you can do way over 50 planekills in AS Bogue even then you dont sink 5 skips, get Kraken and lead the scoreboard. 

 

Higher tiers AS loadouts are almost useless. I dont say they are good even lower tiers. Just think about it. Your damage dealing weapons are very limited so you live and die from planekills. Even if you do that 100% perfectly, kill all planes enemy CV ever has... You still score 0-0 in football terms. Sure you can do some spotting and maybe and ninja kill or two on badly damaged targets but thats it. If enemy CV, for example Zuiho, gets even one succesful torp attack done before losing its planes that Zuiho has done more for the game and their team than you. 

I took your advice and changed to 1 sq attack 1 sq torp and killed alot of planes + did alot for my team

[LongJohn_]

2 hours ago, Certios said:

I took your advice and changed to 1 sq attack 1 sq torp and killed alot of planes + did alot for my team

 

Looking good. That 1-1-0 is easy to manage and has plenty of replacements to both planes.

 

Bogue loadout is going to change to 1-1-1 which is also the up upcoming only loadout for the T6 Independence. I'd suggest you to grind through Bogue, get Independence and use it for learning. T6 is the first tier to have manual drop and strafing options, loadout is balanced 1-1-1, ship itself has good speed to reposition and decent AA to defend yourself. Only 37 planes so you also have to learn looking after your planes so you dont run out. 

[Certios]

1 minute ago, LongJohn_ said:

 

Looking good. That 1-1-0 is easy to manage and has plenty of replacements to both planes.

 

Bogue loadout is going to change to 1-1-1 which is also the up upcoming only loadout for the T6 Independence. I'd suggest you to grind through Bogue, get Independence and use it for learning. T6 is the first tier to have manual drop and strafing options, loadout is balanced 1-1-1, ship itself has good speed to reposition and decent AA to defend yourself. Only 37 planes so you also have to learn looking after your planes so you dont run out. 

Thx for the tip, iam also grinding the ijn so in worst case i will have same tier over there, but iam not gonna jump over any tier at any line, wanna learn both side even if ones is really bad at that tier

[Certios]

Strafing is really hard lol, got the independence and daaaam its hard to get it right but when i do they drop like flies, manuell torp drop and dont get the thing with that... Auto drop works pretty well if iam with near the end and stear it right..

Hows that gonna be better with manuell drop??

[Sargento_YO]

Ahh, the good ole times of strafing. It was secretly nerfed since it's introduction. This video was from July 2016 (don't remember which version it was). Check this: 27 shoot down planes in 2 strafes.

 

 

 

[Certios]

Nice and its you also that playes :P Gonna remeber your name if we meet in battle sometime, you seems to be a good cv player.

I really strugle with the independece, lost like 8 times in a row, starting to Think its becasue of me we lose the games, in my bogue i won almost every game...

But iam going to bed now, and the indepndence just now got fully upgraded so tmr gonna be a new day and new battles and hopefully its gonna be better.

I do skip the manuell dropping on torps tho, tried it out but the amount of time i have to focus to get it right, for me isnt Worth it becasue i do decent with auto aim, just need that twitch at the end to make it good.

The strafing is a [edited] lol, i need to learn that moment and distance to get it right, saw some Youtube clip about it and thought it would be so easy but get that right is more then easy lol

[flip_66]

Boohooo, my CV is too weak, I only deal 30 percent more than everyone else even though I do not understand this game 

 

No difference to arty in WoT at all.

[Commander_Cornflakes]

1 hour ago, Certios said:

Hows that gonna be better with manuell drop??

Manual drop has many advantages:

• you can attack targets you don't see (in smoke)
• you can drop torpedos much closer, leaving the enemy less time to react and evade
• less dispersion -> more hits -> more damage

About the last point:

Spoiler

US CV Autodrop vs Manual Drop:

IJN CV Autodrop vs Manual Drop: