PatienceTracker Players 12 posts Report post #1 Posted October 30, 2017 It is pity to see good players platoon and farm noobs in low tier games. So credits göne for Worldofwallet Team for not protecting noobs in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oppressor_ Players 577 posts 12,178 battles Report post #2 Posted October 30, 2017 My heart is broken now. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caughtintherain Players 231 posts 4,857 battles Report post #3 Posted October 30, 2017 The division problem is more to do with ships sticking together and focusing fire than any individual skill, WoWs is a team game and it shows, especially at lower tiers where your options are limited to "fire HE" or "fire HE". The WorldOfWallet team can't really stop people having friends and grouping up to play together, I'd argue that the 3 person limit per division is a bit restrictive but I understand that it's necessary to prevent massive roflstomps. Even if the problem is with all the players in a specific division being really good, well you have a chance of being on their team too so it works out, and sometimes better players have to play lower tiers, some people will go straight to tier 10 in their chosen nation and ignore the rest, then have 1337 unicum skills when they come to play the Orlan and Hermelin, others will migrate from different server clusters, some just like to play in low pressure games where taking a wrong turn doesn't earn you 11 negative karma. You can play co-op mode to play against bots. This will help you learn the basics of ship control without being overwhelmed by people who can already lead targets, anticipate movement and position themselves well. You can also find yourself a division in game using the looking for division option, click create division on the left of the battle button. The top section allows you to put yourself on a list of people looking for a division. The middle is your contact list, then the bottom lists players who are looking for a division using the method just mentioned. You can click the shield icon to invite them to a division. Alternatively you can post in the "Looking for Clan or Division" in game chat, or find other players who posted there and invite them manually. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyllon Players 2,588 posts Report post #4 Posted October 30, 2017 It is a shame people keep making those posts without offering any sensible solutions... Let me help with that - get better and form the division? Your post OP, also makes me wonder. Would you make this post too, if you ended up on the winning team? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #5 Posted October 30, 2017 Whats the difference between farming noobs at T4 and farming noobs at T10? Nothing! Only a number. Same crap players. Enjoy T5? Play T5. Enjoy T10? Play T10. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #6 Posted October 30, 2017 I'm playing the worlds smallest violin for you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PatienceTracker Players 12 posts Report post #7 Posted October 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, MortenTardo said: Whats the difference between farming noobs at T4 or farming noobs at T10? Nothing! Only a number. Same crap players. Enjoy T5? Play T5. Enjoy T10? Play T10. Isnt t10 is more competetive? at leasy most players have certain level when they reach tier 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #8 Posted October 30, 2017 1 minute ago, rageman4u said: Isnt t10 is more competetive? at leasy most players have certain level when they reach tier 10 In a nutshell: it has 200% more camp, 200% more hate and 200% less skilled player. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #9 Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, rageman4u said: Isnt t10 is more competetive? at leasy most players have certain level when they reach tier 10 Nope. You see the same stupid crap at every Tier. T10 is not more competetive sadly. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PatienceTracker Players 12 posts Report post #10 Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, ForlornSailor said: In a nutshell: it has 200% more camp, 200% more hate and 200% less skilled player. Oh i keep grinding tier 5 6 may be those most hated people just farm us in low tier :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_Noif Weekend Tester 873 posts 6,620 battles Report post #11 Posted October 30, 2017 No need worry, because there are still noobs on every tiers, even at tier 10 as well. I highly recommend learn to play correctly (ammo uses, ship angles and roles for ship classes ... youtube vid is full tutorials and tips and watching pro players on twitch) if you don't want be hunted by pro players. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caughtintherain Players 231 posts 4,857 battles Report post #12 Posted October 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, rageman4u said: Isnt t10 is more competetive? at leasy most players have certain level when they reach tier 10 If anything tier 10 battles make it easier to farm noobs for good players, there is a lot more resource management, maps have weather conditions, positioning is much more important and map knowledge is a major factor. Lower tiers make it harder for good players to wreak havoc on noobs because the game is basically sail and aim, don't get caught alone. If you're talking about sealclubbing, players with 14+ point captains playing tier 4 battles, those people probably have a bad home life. Pity them more than anything else. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #13 Posted October 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, Caughtintherain said: If you're talking about sealclubbing, players with 14+ point captains playing tier 4 battles, those people probably have a bad home life. Pity them more than anything else. I do not have a 19 point commander on my Orion and Clemson. I promise! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caughtintherain Players 231 posts 4,857 battles Report post #14 Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, MortenTardo said: I do not have a 19 point commander on my Orion and Clemson. I promise! Well, the Clemson needs it I guess. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PMI] Juanx Players 2,564 posts 9,352 battles Report post #15 Posted October 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, MortenTardo said: I do not have a 19 point commander on my Orion and Clemson. I promise! I swear its not me with RPF on umikaze... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #16 Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, Juanx said: I swear its not me with RPF on umikaze... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ajb13 Beta Tester 663 posts 12,465 battles Report post #17 Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Caughtintherain said: If you're talking about sealclubbing, players with 14+ point captains playing tier 4 battles, those people probably have a bad home life. Pity them more than anything else. Phew! my Orion captain is only 13pts. To be fair I moved him from Edinburgh to make way for Jack Dunkirk in the recent free respec, and will eventually move him to KGV after about 100 battles. Think you may find a bit of this sort of thing went on during that free respec as it was a good time to shuffle captains and start new lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COOOP] Shirakami_Kon Players 2,624 posts 12,776 battles Report post #18 Posted October 31, 2017 37 minutes ago, ajb13 said: Phew! my Orion captain is only 13pts. To be fair I moved him from Edinburgh to make way for Jack Dunkirk in the recent free respec, and will eventually move him to KGV after about 100 battles. Think you may find a bit of this sort of thing went on during that free respec as it was a good time to shuffle captains and start new lines. Good times never last. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agantas Players 1,059 posts 7,793 battles Report post #19 Posted October 31, 2017 I thought noobs were protected in their T1-T3 sandbox until they hit T4 and played with T4 ships. If I hop on a T1 vessel, it's not gonna be noobs that I play against there and it kinda feels like some kind of expert T10 sealclubbers club down there with those T1 ships, with all kinds of angling and island isolation tricks used down there. T2+ feels more relaxed in comparison, with more low skill players present than in T1, since the genuine noobs are isolated in their own sandbox and rarely play with T1 ships after they get past those, which happens rather quickly. The good days of sealclubbing with my Hermelin AP are over. RIP Citadel Master. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #20 Posted October 31, 2017 5 hours ago, rageman4u said: Isnt t10 is more competetive? at leasy most players have certain level when they reach tier 10 You will find that the quality of players fluctuates evenly across all tiers. There's just as many players who advanced up the tiers learning how to play as there are potatoes that simply died their way up. At least in the lower tiers you can reasonably expect players to be unfamiliar with at least the ships they're playing, if not new to the game itself. At tier X though, people not knowing that straightlining broaside to the entire enemy fleet is a bad idea is simply frustratingly/annoyingly obvious ... those experiences tend to stick for a while (perception bias yaddayadda though I could swear the average gameplay quality takes a noticable dip after tier VII). In short, there's newbies in the lower tiers and plenty n00bs everywhere. As for the original sentiment of this topic: Cultivate your own ingame friendships with people you can division up with. Being a teambased game it undubitably is more enjoyable playing closely together with friends than alone (and assuming competent friends it also helps a lot in performing better and carrying the odd number of potatoes you'll find in your teams). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] YukiEiriKun [POP] Beta Tester 1,500 posts 5,749 battles Report post #21 Posted October 31, 2017 7 hours ago, rageman4u said: It is pity to see good players platoon and farm noobs in low tier games. So credits göne for Worldofwallet Team for not protecting noobs in the game. So experienced players are not llowed to enjoy the fast and chaotic world of low tiers where you can just yolo and still pull outan decent score? You are mean! But I will still stick to my StLouis, Isokaze, Ark.Beta, Furrytaco, Kamikare, Kongo and many other low tier botes. I do not have the patience (skills?) for the high tiers. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[H_FAN] Gnirf Players 3,293 posts 67,362 battles Report post #22 Posted October 31, 2017 7 hours ago, rageman4u said: It is pity to see good players platoon and farm noobs in low tier games. So credits göne for Worldofwallet Team for not protecting noobs in the game. As far as I am aware there is protected matchmaking for beginners, besides you can start in co-op. Nontheless as lower tiers are T2, T3 -and so are not always populated enough WG will proritize to get a game going. I have played 1 vs1 once in random T2 and quite often in 4-6 players aside matches. To me it seems when I play lower tiers sometimes it is very new players I play against and sometimes more experienced. There are also new lines or veterans starting new trees from the bottom. Some of the low tier ships are also very fun to play, Chikuma, Bogatyr, St Louis, Umikaze etc to name my favourites in the T2-3 bracket. The nonsense drive aim fire matches are fun with action from the start. And you might compensate for bad players and turn around a fight. The type of gamer that I am, The collector naval enthusiast are also interested in the old and early warships f.e. the 4 funneled cruisers, the dreadnoughts from WW1 etc so to be able to play them it is necessary to play low tiers. Many other gamers leaves the low tiers as soon as possible to play high tier only freexPing the low tiers. I value each ship regardless of tier, if it is fun I play it after grind now and then, if it is not it is stuck in port and I barely play it. As a cruiser player, it is suffering to play high tiers, therefor I play low tiers to regain sanity and confidence in my cruisers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P2Win Beta Tester 808 posts 8,067 battles Report post #23 Posted October 31, 2017 I don't know why you guys dislike T10 so much. Look WG was aware that people went to low tier to farm people in CV. They even remove manual drop because of it. It's much harder to farm in T10 because 98% of the ships are well balanced. This is why I refuse to play low tier to prey on new people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGB] iJoby Community Contributor 2,171 posts 30,925 battles Report post #24 Posted October 31, 2017 8 hours ago, rageman4u said: It is pity to see good players platoon and farm noobs in low tier games. So credits göne for Worldofwallet Team for not protecting noobs in the game. We all went through this phase when we started? and most of us used this so called seal clubbing as a leaning curve to play better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #25 Posted October 31, 2017 8 hours ago, Nechrom said: I'm playing the worlds smallest violin for you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
