[TVO] _Montagne Players 57 posts 15,852 battles Report post #1 Posted October 21, 2017 Seriously? How do I play this thing? I try sit behind islands and works half the time, I try roaming around islands but that doesn't work. The shell arcs are insane and doubt Ill get used to them. Just like EVERY other Cruiser and couple DD, I'm always getting penetrated at any angle, and its really annoying considering I can old do hardly any damage back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] CommanderCorrigan Players 91 posts 5,300 battles Report post #2 Posted October 21, 2017 Me too, cant figure it out. Most frustrating ship to play for me. Watch plenty of videos, nothing seems to help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #3 Posted October 21, 2017 6 battles played.... You are not known for your patience, right? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darky_fighter Players 5,649 posts Report post #4 Posted October 21, 2017 Play Lo Yang and you will be the hero: Seriously, 6 or 14 matches are too less to make statistical inferences. I am not a 86 % Lo Yang player and you are not a 17 % Baltimore player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_PrKbguoREdYS Players 112 posts Report post #5 Posted October 22, 2017 And winrate is not a real statistic of how you did since especially if you're not in a division, it is up to your team more than yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GURKA] Captain_Breeze Players 734 posts 32,003 battles Report post #6 Posted October 22, 2017 Try and play less aggressive until you get used to it. I've never played the Balti as I have the Moskva and Minotaur so not accustomed to her style of play. I'd stay out of trouble early on and then venture in if that is an option. Your team will also be an issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #7 Posted October 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Zimbit said: And winrate is not a real statistic of how you did since especially if you're not in a division, it is up to your team more than yourself. If you play enough battle... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darky_fighter Players 5,649 posts Report post #8 Posted October 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Zimbit said: And winrate is not a real statistic of how you did since especially if you're not in a division, it is up to your team more than yourself. I am sorry, but this is wrong. The solo win rate is the best benchmark. Don't look at a single match. You just need enough matches and then we are talking about the "Law of large numbers". It is impossible to be a strong player and to have a low solo win rate after a lot of matches. That is the reason why e. g. Flamu's solo win rate is 63.17 %. This has nothing to do with luck. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TVO] _Montagne Players 57 posts 15,852 battles Report post #9 Posted October 22, 2017 And now I'm having to defend a flank on my own and a wild Missouri appears and gets rid of my health when I'm f**king angled. I may as well give him a broadside since it makes no difference, thanks wg for all the good you have done. Yet I have to go through 250,000 more experience just to unlock some tier 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pra3y Players 3,021 posts 11,390 battles Report post #10 Posted October 22, 2017 I just got the ship as well and its pretty fun to play, way more than NO. Perhaps the problem is you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FDUSH] Sargento_YO Players 1,476 posts 12,649 battles Report post #11 Posted October 22, 2017 3 hours ago, darky_fighter said: I am sorry, but this is wrong. The solo win rate is the best benchmark. Don't look at a single match. You just need enough matches and then we are talking about the "Law of large numbers". In my Zuiho I have 906 battles and a 76% winrate. Perhaps that might indicate my tactics works despite not being too high in average damage per battle and frags. And even a somewhat average PR 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage77 Beta Tester 182 posts 9,185 battles Report post #12 Posted October 23, 2017 12 hours ago, pra3y said: I just got the ship as well and its pretty fun to play, way more than NO. Perhaps the problem is you? Not really just him. There are many players who thinks Balimore is weak ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AAO] rnat Players 1,597 posts 21,844 battles Report post #13 Posted October 23, 2017 4 hours ago, mirage77 said: There are many players who thinks Balimore is weak ship. And they'd be wrong. (in my humble ... well founded arbitrary opinion) If one can get it into a good position it truly shines. (also damn open maps) But it really takes some getting used to, otherwise your game-instincs might throw you off a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pra3y Players 3,021 posts 11,390 battles Report post #14 Posted October 23, 2017 4 hours ago, mirage77 said: Not really just him. There are many players who thinks Balimore is weak ship. You know the weird thing is before I got the ship, after reading the various forum post I was pretty worried it'll be a long grind in another lackluster CA that is weak. Just before I finish my grind on the NO PT was up I went onto it to test the Baltimore out and I find it pretty ok ship. HE is good, AP is good, arcs aren't really as bad as they're said to be and the ship is tankier than it's predecessors which is a plus. And with maximum concealment I can radar whoever that is spotting me. All in all a decent ship. Plus almost all CAs suffer from being out in the open with no cover or being citadelled from any direction by a BB so I don't really see how using those excuses mean that the Baltimore is a weak ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage77 Beta Tester 182 posts 9,185 battles Report post #15 Posted October 23, 2017 12 hours ago, pra3y said: You know the weird thing is before I got the ship, after reading the various forum post I was pretty worried it'll be a long grind in another lackluster CA that is weak. Just before I finish my grind on the NO PT was up I went onto it to test the Baltimore out and I find it pretty ok ship. HE is good, AP is good, arcs aren't really as bad as they're said to be and the ship is tankier than it's predecessors which is a plus. And with maximum concealment I can radar whoever that is spotting me. All in all a decent ship. Plus almost all CAs suffer from being out in the open with no cover or being citadelled from any direction by a BB so I don't really see how using those excuses mean that the Baltimore is a weak ship. I agree that AP is good but He its weak. With maximum concelment you CANT always radar whos spoting you. There is a gap, about 400m were a ship can hide. It can be done, i have done it and it can very dangerous to the Baltimore. Always be cautions on that gap. About be tankier, ok but there arent many crusiers players firing AP at an angle Baltimore. They just fire HE. And like you said no point of angle against a BB. In all, not a easy ship to play and in my opinion there are better tier 9 crusiers out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pra3y Players 3,021 posts 11,390 battles Report post #16 Posted October 23, 2017 38 minutes ago, mirage77 said: I agree that AP is good but He its weak. With maximum concelment you CANT always radar whos spoting you. There is a gap, about 400m were a ship can hide. It can be done, i have done it and it can very dangerous to the Baltimore. Always be cautions on that gap. About be tankier, ok but there arent many crusiers players firing AP at an angle Baltimore. They just fire HE. And like you said no point of angle against a BB. In all, not a easy ship to play and in my opinion there better tier 9 crusiers out there. Its decent enough for me I guess after playing the Hipper. I finally decide to just stick with AP with that one unless the target is totally angled. Tbh among all the tier 9 CAs, I think Roon is the most meh of them out there, especially since the play style is different from it's previous tier. No doubt its an improvement over the Hipper but I still feel it's kinda lacking. At least with Balti the difference isn't that much from an NO and you just play it as an upgraded NO with way better guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[H_FAN] Gnirf Players 3,293 posts 67,252 battles Report post #17 Posted October 23, 2017 On 2017-10-22 at 1:50 PM, Sargento_YO said: In my Zuiho I have 906 battles and a 76% winrate. Perhaps that might indicate my tactics works despite not being too high in average damage per battle and frags. And even a somewhat average PR It is a impressive figure but you can not use your personal experience in CV which you obviusly have great skill in. The CVs are statwise for the unicums the ship class to go to. I guess that only a handful unicums have that figure in the other ship classes, in any ship with say over 300 battles in, definately not in solo play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #18 Posted October 23, 2017 Honestly she could use a very slight armor buff to not get overmatched by BB shells everywhere. Just make her main deck 30mm like DM's and she'd be fine. Balti is an acquired taste (like the Pensa & NO before her really), but if you can make her work she's surprisingly enjoyable to play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,446 battles Report post #19 Posted October 24, 2017 HI all, IMHO the "Baltimore", just like "New Orleans", has to be played a bit cautiously at the start (i.e. play support role but save yourself as much as possible) and afterwards it can be great exploit ship (to hunt lone DDs, harass not grouped BBs and even capture and re-capture CAPs due to good concealment and radar)... Leo "Apollo11" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMoon51 Beta Tester 951 posts Report post #20 Posted October 24, 2017 Mostly play cruisers, but never got the hang of the Baltimore which was a shame as I have a personal connection to the class (my ex-wife's dad served on the USS Boston). I tried all kinds of set ups from an AA build(sadly you see far too few carriers to make that work) to a more standard set-up. All that being said it's worth it because I really enjoy the Des Moines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-F] Clawgr Players 100 posts 14,533 battles Report post #21 Posted October 28, 2017 Its mostly 90% T10 Matches. You are up against better ships where neither ship is particularly weak (and its not like players will be making T7 mistakes).. Besides its early to say from 6 mere matches where your ship is probably not even fully upgraded. Come back after 100 matches at least on the ship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TVO] _Montagne Players 57 posts 15,852 battles Report post #22 Posted October 29, 2017 Ok ive gotten used to the Balti, theres still the odd game where I do bad but Ive seen this left often. Now I'm on Des moines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #23 Posted October 30, 2017 On 2017. 10. 23. at 2:56 PM, mirage77 said: I agree that AP is good but He its weak. With maximum concelment you CANT always radar whos spoting you. There is a gap, about 400m were a ship can hide. It can be done, i have done it and it can very dangerous to the Baltimore. Always be cautions on that gap. About be tankier, ok but there arent many crusiers players firing AP at an angle Baltimore. They just fire HE. And like you said no point of angle against a BB. In all, not a easy ship to play and in my opinion there are better tier 9 crusiers out there. About radar. If you have AP loaded and something spotted you suddenly, without you having fired your guns, reload to HE, and then pop your radar. If you were on HE, just count to ten and pop radar. Trust me, it's gonna be detecting the one spotting you for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage77 Beta Tester 182 posts 9,185 battles Report post #24 Posted November 4, 2017 On 30/10/2017 at 3:32 AM, piritskenyer said: About radar. If you have AP loaded and something spotted you suddenly, without you having fired your guns, reload to HE, and then pop your radar. If you were on HE, just count to ten and pop radar. Trust me, it's gonna be detecting the one spotting you for sure. Nope. If the ones spoting you has any experience with Baltimore, you will not spot him. Trust me, i have done it and its very fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #25 Posted November 5, 2017 6 hours ago, mirage77 said: Nope. If the ones spoting you has any experience with Baltimore, you will not spot him. Trust me, i have done it and its very fun That is something I could see happening IF B-more wasn't so looked down upon by destroyers (until they get bitchsmacked) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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