First French DD announced - Aigle (T6)

[PseudoMi]

(the Cyclone T5 we had for Dunkerque scenario is not counting cause not available outside the scenario and has been pulled out the game since)

 

Aigle (Eagle), tier VI premium

[info updated]

Hit points - 17 000

plating - 10-16 mm

Main battery - 5х1 139 mm

Firing range - 12.8 km

Sigma - 2.0

maximum dispersion - 111 m

HE damage - 1000

AP damage - 2600

HE and AP initial velocity - 700 m/s

Reload time 4.8 s

180 degree turn time - 18 s

Torpedo tubes - 2х3 550 mm

torpedo range - 7 km

torpedo speed - 57 kt

reload time 77 s

maximum damage - 18 400

Maximum speed - 36 kt

Turning circle radius - 680 m

rudder shift time - 4.1 s

Surface detectability - 7.5 km

air detectability - 4.3 km

Detectability after firing main guns in smoke - 3.1 km.

 

 

What will be the gimmick of this Aigle and what do you think the national flavor of French DDs will be ?

[walter3kurtz]

Probably a fast gunboat like the Soviets. While 5 guns is not so much you could see progression up the line, good ROF and range. Fits the historical picture.

[Khul]

One can only presume that the Guepard-class will be for the tree, as the Aigles were pretty similar, I believe.

 

Surprise for me to see such a powerful gunboat at such a low tier (those 5.4"-ers are Japanese light-cruiser spec, & the French ship has more of them)...

[tank276]

For what it is worth, that camo looks sweet.

[RenamedUser_92906789]

12 minutes ago, tank276 said:

For what it is worth, that camo looks sweet.

Actually the whole design looks pretty sweet.

[iJoby]

Those Guns!! a Must Have.

The French developed the 138.6mm/50 gun – with successive 1927, 1929, and 1934 models – for use on their destroyers, which sparked a sort of destroyer arms race with Italy. The guns on French destroyers ended up becoming so big and so numerous that destroyers such as Le Fantasque were occasionally considered light cruisers.

[T0byJug]

14 minutes ago, nambr9 said:

Actually the whole design looks pretty sweet.

God no........

 

One new DD tech line just about to be released and more on the way.... More DD's that I MUST HAVE.. will it never end

[piritskenyer]

No, Toby, it won't :D

[shamelesscreature]

52 minutes ago, Khul said:

Surprise for me to see such a powerful gunboat at such a low tier (those 5.4"-ers are Japanese light-cruiser spec, & the French ship has more of them)...

700 m/s muzzle velocity will hamper their effectiveness...

[dCK_Ad_Hominem]

3 minutes ago, shamelesscreature said:

700 m/s muzzle velocity will hamper their effectiveness...

This. Jap dds benefit from very good arcs and shell speed while lacking rof. If this turns out to be a Farra/Hatsu hybrid it could be interesting. Speed is adequate, but before knowing torp range and concealment my reaction will almost always be "meh".

[Capra76]

My guess is a semi-clone of the 150 mm Ernst Gaede:

• 23 DT torpedoes are a constant through the CA line so I guess it'll get them, average to good for T6 but with 2 x 3 launchers and 90 second loading cycle the overall torpedo power may be fairly mediocre;
• the guns will presumably feel similar to the EG, possibly with a higher ROF but lower damage shells;
• as a big ship the handling and stealth will presumably be fairly similar.

No idea what the overall theme of the line will be, the later ships look like backward steps from the earlier ones in terms of armament so could be difficult to balance.

[RenamedUser_92906789]

18 minutes ago, T0byJug said:

God no........

 

One new DD tech line just about to be released and more on the way.... More DD's that I MUST HAVE.. will it never end

 

Dont worry mate, that makes two of us. Tho .... I still have to play zi german DDs :)

[T0byJug]

3 minutes ago, nambr9 said:

 

Dont worry mate, that makes two of us. Tho .... I still have to play zi german DDs :)

I have  in Port 35 DD (I think)

IJN

Tier 2/5/6/7/(3x8)/9/10

USN

Tier 2/4/6/7/8/9/10

RU

4/(2x5)/6/7/8/(2x10)

German

3/4/6/7/8/9/10

RN

3/6

Polish

7

Asian 

6

 

Will be getting Commonwealth Tier 3. and on paper planning on keeping 4 of the Pan Asian..

[creamgravy]

38 minutes ago, shamelesscreature said:

700 m/s muzzle velocity will hamper their effectiveness...

 

Here's the 130mm HE shell arcs from Cyclone (725mps and 34.85kg)

 

Spoiler

 

They overtake IJN 5" guns from 11km. The 138.6mm gun fires a 40kg HE shell and should have better arcs.

 

[JapLance]

I would have rated Aigle as a tier VII, since they're really big, powerful ships

 

Is it known whether it is a Premium or a Standard ship? NVM, just read OP properly.

[Redcap375]

20 minutes ago, T0byJug said:

I have  in Port 35 DD (I think)

IJN

Tier 2/5/6/7/(3x8)/9/10

USN

Tier 2/4/6/7/8/9/10

RU

4/(2x5)/6/7/8/(2x10)

German

3/4/6/7/8/9/10

RN

3/6

Polish

7

Asian 

6

 

Will be getting Commonwealth Tier 3. and on paper planning on keeping 4 of the Pan Asian..

 

I know its off topic but have to ask a seasoned DD player (i cant play them to save my life, never have, but getting lot better)

 

TobyJug, of all the ones you have which one would you say is your ultimate DD that you just have to play once a night and incorporates everything good about DD's? 

 

Clan m8's reckon the Fletcher is hard to beat.

[creamgravy]

10 minutes ago, JapLance said:

I would have rated Aigle as a tier VII, since they're really big ships:

 

Is it known whether it is a Premium or a Standard ship?

 

A to E group 'four-funneler' destroyers are all around tier 6.

I'd use group D at tier 6 (4 torpedoes, 2 per broadside) and group E (7 torpedoes, 5 per broadside) at tier 7 for the tech tree. Although a standard 2x3 layout kinda fits as a powerful tier 6 premium.

 

33 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

My guess is a semi-clone of the 150 mm Ernst Gaede:

 

150mm Gaede's potential as a gunboat is crippled due to the short range. It's balanced around being a large torp boat. Hopefully Aigle has 'built in' long range guns, like Cyclone. 

 

[Redcap375]

Still waiting for the 2 x 4 120 mm guns of the RN Tribal Class and aa death 

[RenamedUser_92906789]

10 minutes ago, Redcap375 said:

 

I know its off topic but have to ask a seasoned DD player (i cant play them to save my life, never have, but getting lot better)

 

TobyJug, of all the ones you have which one would you say is your ultimate DD that you just have to play once a night and incorporates everything good about DD's? 

 

Clan m8's reckon the Fletcher is hard to beat.

 

For me its the Kamikaze :) But I guess each has their own "preferences".

[T0byJug]

26 minutes ago, Redcap375 said:

 

I know its off topic but have to ask a seasoned DD player (i cant play them to save my life, never have, but getting lot better)

 

TobyJug, of all the ones you have which one would you say is your ultimate DD that you just have to play once a night and incorporates everything good about DD's? 

 

Clan m8's reckon the Fletcher is hard to beat.

I cant realy pic one... 

 

Fletcher is a common one for me because i have prem camo on her so its good for the daily XP.

Kamakazee is also great

For the LoLs Okhotnik

and of Cause HMS Gallant (Im a Brit) A daily RN DD is a Must

Błyskawica because she was built in a UK shipyard (so almost a Brit) and i have been on board her

[tank276]

1 hour ago, iJoby said:

Those Guns!! a Must Have.

The French developed the 138.6mm/50 gun – with successive 1927, 1929, and 1934 models – for use on their destroyers, which sparked a sort of destroyer arms race with Italy. The guns on French destroyers ended up becoming so big and so numerous that destroyers such as Le Fantasque were occasionally considered light cruisers.

Historical memos are always welcome, thnx man.

[Prospect_b]

54 minutes ago, T0byJug said:

I cant realy pic one... 

 

Fletcher is a common one for me because i have prem camo on her so its good for the daily XP.

Kamakazee is also great

For the LoLs Okhotnik

and of Cause HMS Gallant (Im a Brit) A daily RN DD is a Must

Błyskawica because she was built in a UK shipyard (so almost a Brit) and i have been on board her

Surprised you don't mention z52, since you seem to have it. For domination it is extremely good (of course).

[T0byJug]

29 minutes ago, PzychoPanzer said:

Surprised you don't mention z52, since you seem to have it. For domination it is extremely good (of course).

had to limit it a little.. There are easily 10+ DD that are regular party boats for me

[fumtu]

Great, a French DD. And it looks nice. If it's any good than I'll definitely buy it.

 

On 10/18/2017 at 1:04 PM, PseudoMi said:

What will be the gimmick of this Aigle and what do you think the national flavor of French DDs will be ?

 

Probably no speed boost as they give them to cruisers

[Skyllon]

5 hours ago, iJoby said:

Those Guns!! a Must Have.

The French developed the 138.6mm/50 gun – with successive 1927, 1929, and 1934 models – for use on their destroyers, which sparked a sort of destroyer arms race with Italy. The guns on French destroyers ended up becoming so big and so numerous that destroyers such as Le Fantasque were occasionally considered light cruisers.

 

Which is funny because Italians fed up with speed of French destroyers developed light cruisers that might've been considered... very large destroyers.

(well not really, but let's pretend for the sake of the joke they could )