Tough decision to make

[ImperialAdmiral]

With the upcomming patch we will be able to sell Kutuzov, Belfast and Perth and receive refund in doubloons.

 

Now I'm pondering if I should actually sell my Kutuzov. Tbh I never liked her in the first place and I considered buying her as a mistake.

Yeah, sure I had some fun games and earned a lot of cash but same goes for Atago and Tirpitz which I adore.

 

Anyone else struggling with same problem?

[eliastion]

I'm not but the thing is - if you consider buying the ship a mistake, why not take the chance to reverse the mistake (without losing anything)?

[tank276]

I am not doing outstandingly in the Kutuzov but I do not consider selling it. Kutuzov and Belfast will be removed from store (Perth not) so they are gonna be like Gremy and Nikolai for the next generation of players.

Think about it.

Dont sell.

 

[Shirakami_Kon]

I feel like that too, because Kutuzov came outat a time when I had money to buy it but still no idea to how to adapt to a ship like that. Now even if I could try between the BB plague I myself have joined and that I don't consider smoke spamming fair even without nerfs... I think I'll sell my Kutuzov in my case. Maybe even my Belfast because I don't touch that that much either for mostly the same reasons.

[Aotearas]

Eh, change to the Belfast is minimal as pretty much everything will be spotted long before it gets that close to you by allies (unless you sail around compeltely alone, in which case smoking up also means you wouldn't see anything to shoot anyway). The only ship that could creep close enough without getting spotted would be a DD and Belfast still got radar so I honestly doubt many DD players will even attempt to proximity spot you even with the increased smoke detactability.

 

Change to the Kutuzov is a bit more substantial, but largely exclusive to short range aggressive smokes. Popping a smoke to shoot up some ship 10+km away without getting spotted will work just the same. It will however make DDs getting close to try and proximity spot you a viable counter, which is frankly something good in my books as the Kutuzov kind of needed a counterplay that isn't rader or blind shots into its smoke.

 

Don't own a Perth so I can't say anything about that.

 

 

I'm more interested in what that change does in regards to teamplay (i.e.: smoking up allied cruisers near caps so they can help without getting instagibbed by the five BBs on the enemy team). Imho those smoke detectabilities for heavy cruisers are pretty harsh on every cruiser that doesn't come with radar. Des Moines can simply radar anything if they're spotted and Moskva only has a 1km buffer zone between its smoke detactability and its radar range, the Zao ought to be manageable at a bit over 7km but ships like the Hindenburg and HIV are sh*t out of luck. Pretty sure I'm going to make use of the free captain respec for my german cruiser captain and then just slot Defensive AA instead of hydro, particularily since the smoke detection changes IMMENSELY devalued the Hydroacoustic Search consumable for aggressive anti-smoke pushes and Vigilance already does a good enough job at spotting torpedo threats soon enough.

[wilkatis_LV]

I'm all for as many people refunding Kutuzov and Belfast as possible. The less of those 2, the better

[Smeggo]

I'll gladly give away Perth ( as she is not that suited for operations ) and Belfast (as she is lacking the power for coop).

Not sure about Kuzutov. Will test her with the new mechanics.

 

Anyway, nice move - allows me to swap these ships for other premiums.

[FallOutBoi]

Have the same decision to make with my belfast. i bought it cause it is  clearly OP. But this OPness also make me think i have to do well in her. And to rely on randoms to spot for you to do damage is not the playstyle i prefer. So i have only played 101 games in nearly 10 months of ownage. Now i am asking myself as a DD main, why not change her for a lenningrad or a lo yang. Or waiting for the announced german prem DD.  

[MacFergus]

Never mastered the Belfast I know a lot of people considered her op I just found her to be to dam flimsy with limited range , I actually feel she worked very well in divisions but for a solo player I'm not so sure , Rolling up to a cap pressing radar you might get a DD kill but the amount of lead flying back at you just wasn't worth it in my view.

 

Kutuzov on the other hand is a nice ship with great range and great for a solo player ill reserve judgement until i play her after the patch.

[lameoll]

50 minutes ago, ImperialAdmiral said:

Tbh I never liked her in the first place and I considered buying her as a mistake.

you just awnsered your own question basicly.

[hgbn_dk]

Happy that I own all 3 of them.. and never will sell any of them

[Shirakami_Kon]

I wonder what happens with the XP on those ships if you sell them though. I sold silver ships and I can still convert the XP accumulated in them but I don't know if that also works with sold premiums since I never sold any premium other than Mikasa. Anyone knows how that works?

[WolfGewehr]

I got Kutuzov from 3 euro box last christmas, so I could get some profit now

 

Nah, as a semi collector I won't sell her.

[BeauNidl3]

I may well sell the Belfast, I just don't enjoy the ship much and I barely play it.

[LilJumpa]

What you could do is buy the Belfast and/or the MK now for dubloons, test and/or just play them for 2 patches and sell them again.

 

But even this will be a win for WG because you will have to buy the dubloons anyway 

 

 

 

 

[EsaTuunanen]

36 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

Change to the Kutuzov is a bit more substantial, but largely exclusive to short range aggressive smokes. Popping a smoke to shoot up some ship 10+km away without getting spotted will work just the same. It will however make DDs getting close to try and proximity spot you a viable counter, which is frankly something good in my books as the Kutuzov kind of needed a counterplay that isn't rader or blind shots into its smoke.

That will indeed make Kutuzov  require more situational awareness where to pop smoke.

 

But Belfast basically still won't have counter.

Even tiny small step into radar range to pop some torps for smoke has always been very risky.

[invicta2012]

The problem with this, of course, is that I don't know how much I paid for my Perth.....

[beercrazy]

anyone else feel they got shafted by buying premiums before the stealth fire nerf and not being giving the option of getting a refund for the ships that relied on stealth fire ie gremmy and blys?

I also think wg is being a bit tight fisted by only offering us dubloons when we bought the ships for hard earned cash when in my view it should be a monetary refund

 

anyway as I have said before will test em and if they prove to be significantly worse I will take the poor refund (give me cash back wg)

[MacFergus]

1 hour ago, beercrazy said:

anyone else feel they got shafted by buying premiums before the stealth fire nerf and not being giving the option of getting a refund for the ships that relied on stealth fire ie gremmy and blys?

I also think wg is being a bit tight fisted by only offering us dubloons when we bought the ships for hard earned cash when in my view it should be a monetary refund

 

anyway as I have said before will test em and if they prove to be significantly worse I will take the poor refund (give me cash back wg)

 

Absolutely my Blys and Grem are in mothballs  there just oversized DDs now still decent but without any character to define them.

[lafeel]

I will personally be keeping all of them. Just because they are changing the smoke mechanics does not mean I am going to give up.

 

Feel free to consider me a stubborn fool, if you want, but this is how it shall be.

[__Helmut_Kohl__]

Even though I rarely play them, I will keep all 3.

 

And when their time comes, and people cry for those ships again, I will play the occasional game to farm sweet tears. 

[dasCKD]

The Kutuzov I will sell, I never liked her much and I will find far more use out of the doubloons I get off her. The Belfast I might sell. Again, I never liked her much and I find the Saipan to be a far better tier 7 seal clubber. The Perth stays however, I'm not giving her up anytime soon.

[Prospect_b]

Have belfast & kutuzov, won't sell.

 

If it happens too much a dd comes to spot me in kutuzov, I'll just join the bbs at the border...

[lafeel]

@PzychoPanzer Can always just kill him, it's not like the Kutuzov is unable to defend itself.

[Prospect_b]

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