Primetime

[Aotearas]

Wednesday, thursday, saturday and sunday from 21:00 to 00:00 UTC+2 ... is that a *Edited joke?

 

WG does away with CVs because they're too hard to play to make it accessible to clans that don't have a solid CV player. WG limits the team sizes to seven players each to make it more accessible to smaller clans. WG rents out free tier X ships to make it accessible to players that don't own a tier X ship yet.

 

But hey, let's just arbitrarily limit the clan wars to late-night three hour windows. It's not like people have to get up early in the morning to go to school/university/work. Or people who perhaps work late hours and only have freetime in the afternoon or perhaps the morning.

 

Welp, it's a good thing I'm not even interested in playing this mess, because if I were I wouldn't even be able to thanks to those primetime restructions (I go to university, which means getting up early in the morning and I work over the weekends to pay my bills). Buh-rilliant!

 

 

Just in case the image embedding is still screwed up: https://media.tenor.com/images/d8de3bbf03ad4a7e3744ff650517f662/tenor.gif

 

 

I'm mildly interested in WG's reasoning for this ... like a bystander morbidly oggling a traffic incident scene. Best guess would be WG doesn't trust its own accessability measures to result in a servicable MM pool to draw from. I can understand trying to force an as cohesive environment as possible to force clans of different skill levels to meet one another (and avoid clans trying to exploit fringe hours to screw with the MM), but even for that limiting the allowed time-window to four days at three late-night hours each is hilariously restrictive.

 

InB4PilotSeasonIsJustForTesting

[SoggyMuffin]

I just posted my thread too. But the time is actually 19:00-22:00 it was wrong in the first draft. Either way it is a joke.

[ColonelPete]

Just read the froum before starting new threads...

[Aotearas]

Ah, at least 19:00 to 22:00 is much closer to what I'd think halfway reasonable (would still make that two sessions per day, one late morning/noon and one later afternoon/evening). Actually nevermind, since switching back from daylight saving time means it's still going to be 20:00 to 23:00 ... which is only marginally less restrictive than the original (false, because WG can't communicate) timeframe.

 

8 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Just read the froum before starting new threads...

 

You mean the other thread that was created after this one?

 

My sincerest apologies, it appears my clairvoyance has failed me.

[WolfGewehr]

What I just don't understand is why Friday is not included in this "primetime"?

[ColonelPete]

14 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

Ah, at least 19:00 to 22:00 is much closer to what I'd think halfway reasonable (would still make that two sessions per day, one late morning/noon and one later afternoon/evening). Actually nevermind, since switching back from daylight saving time means it's still going to be 20:00 to 23:00 ... which is only marginally less restrictive than the original (false, because WG can't communicate) timeframe.

 

 

You mean the other thread that was created after this one?

 

My sincerest apologies, it appears my clairvoyance has failed me.

No, the thread were WG officials started posting nearly two hours ago.

[juanxmar]

My work time finishes at 23:30 cet...

[Aotearas]

13 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

No, the thread were WG officials started posting nearly two hours ago.

 

Again my sincerest apologies, but I don't stalk each and every WG staff member or actually read through the entire forum each time before I open a topic.

 

And if you wish to waggle a finger, maybe, just maybe, point that one at WG for failing to publish the correct news draft without which any such miscommunication wouldn't have happened. Though I would've still opened one to point out the restrictive nature of the time window anyway, so this topic still serves its purpose.

 

But why am I even telling you this, oh Infallible One. I'm sure you never missed a detail even after out-of-date news have just been released. I'd bow before your omniscient greatness but I'm too busy grovelling for your forgiveness ... or whatever else it is you want to hear to sate your forum crusading attitude.

[AmazingBeaver]

Seems tricky as I work 22:00-6:00 or 14:00-22:00. But that's my problem obviously, I could always call in sick to play clam warfarce

[Major_Damage225]

Well, looks like no CB for me then, im never home before 23.00 

[Kartoffelmos]

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

Just read the froum before starting new threads...

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

No, the thread were WG officials started posting nearly two hours ago.

 

Ah, it's so heartwarming to see such constructive, helpful and not-at-all-garbage responses that contribute to the topic. Bonus points for having a humorous tone as well!

 

As for the actual issue, WG EU did it again:

3 hours ago, MrConway said:

Edit: There was a mistake in the article.

 

The primetime is 17:00 - 20:00 UTC, so currently 19:00-22:00 CEST. The time is set as UTC, so it will change with winter time.

 

This answer was posted in the "unanswered questions about CW"-thread, so I also find it funny that one should automatically know that there was an "unanswered question" regarding official information which gives an answer about primetime hours which no one knew about.

I mean, why would someone not ask about why the primetime is so late when that very information was unknown? 

[RUSSIANBlAS]

The whole CW thing is lol...

 

I mean it's actually extremely difficult to assemble 7 of you night after night, especially as this game is played by generally older folk with jobs and families. It's why I liked Ranked, I don't have time for CW at prime time when I've got other commitments.

 

WG falling to understand their clientele.

[Aotearas]

22 minutes ago, Negativvv said:

 

WG falling to understand their clientele.

 

At this point, I'm inclined to believe that we (with that I mean most of us forumites and otherwise invested players that wish for a structurally sound and balanced gameplay that is enjoyable to everyone who puts in a modicum of effort beyond "touchy da buttoms to make gun go BOOM and see da enemy asplode") have thoroughly misinterpreted us to be the actual clientel, when it appears more and more obvious that the plethora of seemingly shortsighted decisions is so consistent in their appearence and nature that they're indeed deliberate and targeting a demographic that's easily wowed by a bit marketing buzzwords and the sparkle of new ship, whilst possessing a limited attention span that makes them forget about anything they might not like as soon as WG announces the next premium ship to keep the Ruble rolling.

 

 

Or maybe I'm actually giving WG too much credit here and should simply apply Hanlon's Razor ... as of yet I'm still undecided which path I should chose on that t-junction of cynicism.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

4 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

 

At this point, I'm inclined to believe that we (with that I mean most of us forumites and otherwise invested players that wish for a structurally sound and balanced gameplay that is enjoyable to everyone who puts in a modicum of effort beyond "touchy da buttoms to make gun go BOOM and see da enemy asplode") have thoroughly misinterpreted us to be the actual clientel, when it appears more and more obvious that the plethora of seemingly shortsighted decisions is so consistent in their appearence and nature that they're indeed deliberate and targeting a demographic that's easily wowed by a bit marketing buzzwords and the sparkle of new ship, whilst possessing a limited attention span that makes them forget about anything they might not like as soon as WG announces the next premium ship to keep the Ruble rolling.

 

 

Or maybe I'm actually giving WG too much credit here and should simply apply Hanlon's Razor ... as of yet I'm still undecided which path I should chose on that t-junction of cynicism.

Well to put it simply I've put quite a few hours into Ranked but times me by 7 and you'll be hard pressed to get anywhere near the same amount of game time. Most clans that aren't try hard kids with no commitments will be lucky to assemble for more than a few hours a week which isn't many games. 

 

If anyone here can tell me they've got a clan with enough guys to get regular games at prime time then speak now. Even a roster of 30 might make this difficult as that's about 25% of your clan you need assembled to grind.

[Hedgehog1963]

First thing i do when I get home from work is go to bed for a few hours.  Then I can enjoy myself later.

[Captain_Singleton]

10 minutes ago, Negativvv said:

If anyone here can tell me they've got a clan with enough guys to get regular games at prime time then speak now. Even a roster of 30 might make this difficult as that's about 25% of your clan you need assembled to grind.

we'll be expanding up to 40 sometime on Wednesday

the 3 hours is a bit limiting, 5 hours would give a lot more options, at 8cet i'd guess we usually have about 10 online...

[ColonelPete]

1 hour ago, Aotearas said:

 

Again my sincerest apologies, but I don't stalk each and every WG staff member or actually read through the entire forum each time before I open a topic.

 

No need to. Thread was highlighted on the right and one of the top threads on the first page.

[IanH755]

Those times are, for me at 41, prime "family time" where we catch-up on each others day, help with homework, help with a little housework/fixing things etc before getting the kids to bed. So thank you WG for allowing me to spend this precious time with my family rather than playing your game at those very strangely chosen times, considering your clientèle aren't kids with tons of spare time!

[Aotearas]

5 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

No need to. Thread was highlighted on the right and one of the top threads on the first page.

 

Developer responses are only highlighted on the forum start-up page, not when you jump straight to the whatever-language subforum you actually browse/read.

 

As for any other illustrating comments of yours truly, I'll just refer to Kartoffelmos' comment. If you feel like having to reiterate your displeasure with my lack of omniscience any more, I suggest you spare yourself the effort because I certainly won't be indulging from this point forward.

 

Cheers

[ColonelPete]

Yes, must be omniscience to notice that 

[ClappingLollies]

This is fekking stupid. Some of us have to get up in the morning an playing until 00.00 is not possible all the time when you have to get up at 05.00 in the morning. Get a grip WG!

 

Edit: Was looking forward to CW, but man. FFS

[IanH755]

@Sub_Octavian replied in the Reddit thread about this -

 

"Ideally, CB should be 24/7 during the season. However, that's not possible right now, or theoretically possible, but the risk is too high. Clans are high-end content, naturally Clan players are fewer in numbers than Ranked players, and, of course, Random players. So, without prime-time we can stretch the players too thin, hurt matchmaker, and open some room for exploits. That's why it is currently needed, not because we want to specifically exclude someone."

 

Thread here -

 

[Affeks]

Yeah I'm shafted by this, not home untill 22-23 most days so yeah.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

Well to be fair to WG, a lot of folk on here myself included would never play CB seriously as we know our time and life commitments simply don't fit waiting for 6 others at prime evening times. Whilst I'm in a clan I joined on the premise that we are all free to farm oil, div when we want and essentially not need to assemble for games or practice sessions. 

 

Now whether these slightly strange times alienate people on the fence is another matter... 

[Unintentional_submarine]

2 hours ago, Negativvv said:

Well to be fair to WG, a lot of folk on here myself included would never play CB seriously as we know our time and life commitments simply don't fit waiting for 6 others at prime evening times. Whilst I'm in a clan I joined on the premise that we are all free to farm oil, div when we want and essentially not need to assemble for games or practice sessions. 

 

Now whether these slightly strange times alienate people on the fence is another matter... 

No need to look at 'on the fence'. My clan was quite interested in CB, having a competitive team and all. So CB looked like a good thing. But one blow after another and there is now discussions about the feasibility. I expect us to take part, but the simple fact that there is not a united 'of course' is grounds for concerns I would think. For others... well I can only think that it is looking even more sketchy now.