radar at t3

[Butterdoll]

Just had my last battle for today, I went back tier for the last time, to start grinding the german line.

well, I don't like those WW I ships, so after that I will have all nations but one (if I'm not mistaken).

 

I was in the t3 kolbert in my last battle when the sign LOCATED appeared.

What tha... I started laughing hard at that (after I checked what I was sailing, yes it was the kolbert).

So, the ship that had radar was a v-25, a dd.

with these it's the fifth time and I never saw this before.

 

 

[Aotearas]

Located or spotted?

 

If located, someone had a high level captain with the 'Radio Location' perk, though that was then probably not the V-25 but another premium ship.

If you were spotted, a tier IV cruiser nearby must've had his hydro on.

[Ubertron_X]

Radar?

 

[Tungstonid]

As Aotearas said, "Located" indicates you were aimed at by the Radio Position Finding skill.

You can not meet radar in a tier 3 ship. Radar is available at tier 7 and up so the lowest tier which can meet radar is tier 5. HAS on KM DDs starts at tier 6 IIRC so this can't be it either.

So either another CA spotted you with HAS (if you actually saw the "Spotted by radar/HAS" icon) or the V-25 captain used the RPF skill.

[Butterdoll]

Located!

the last tree ships of the red team were a jurien, a cambeltown and that dd

I was surprised to.

that dd was the only one left and we got located a couple of times. but then again I could be wrong.

[Tungstonid]

Yeah, the Located! shows that his RPF skill aimed at you. No radar, no HAS. It doesn't show the exact location but the general direction (sector) of the closest enemy.

[Aotearas]

7 minutes ago, Butterdoll said:

Located!

the last tree ships of the red team were a jurien, a cambeltown and that dd

I was surprised to.

that dd was the only one left and we got located a couple of times. but then again I could be wrong.

 

Probably Cambeltown then rather than the V-25. Someone put a high level RN captain on there for a little sealclubbing.

[wilkatis_LV]

On 10/13/2017 at 2:04 AM, Butterdoll said:

Located!

the last tree ships of the red team were a jurien, a cambeltown and that dd

I was surprised to.

that dd was the only one left and we got located a couple of times.

 

So.. this one?

 

That's called RPF (Radio-Positioning-Finder)

4 point commander skill. Points in the [general] direction of the closest enemy ship. Does not give any other info.

 

While there is a slight chance that Jurien or V-25 could have been sealclubbing like that, my money is on Campbeltown (a premium ship) just having some high tier RN CL captain in it who had that skill.

 

RPF does not reveal you, all they get is that 1 guy seeing [general] direction to you are from him

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[eliastion]

Since the OP talks about "located" and V-25, I'll assume he meant RPF rather than Radar. If so, I must say: it's much less unthinkable as you might, well, think. There were some occasions where one could acquire a 10 skillpoint commander from some mission. If someone doesn't like German ships in general OR has all the relevant ships set with captains... what is he going to do other than put that 10-point commander at the helm of the MOST FUN DESTROYER IN THE ENTIRE GAME!? 

 

No, seriously, my V-25 has a 10-point captain. Or is it 11 now? He was meant to be my German DD captain but then I realized I don't feel like grinding through the middle tiers... maybe I will. Some day. For now I often start the day with a t2 match and I sometimes go back to this beautiful boat if the gaming day is really crappy with a frustrating loosing streak. It feels dirty, but V-25  is just so much fun, whether you play her to win or just go full-yolo with great speed, great concealment, small sylvette and all the fast-reloading torps, two of them facing forwards...

I have no idea what would the purpose of getting RPF on this thing be but the idea of having a captain capable of having it on that boat? Well, the one that captains my V-25 certainly could have it 

 

Also, it might be a captain that has some german Premium as the ACTUAL primary ship with V-25 playing the secondary role. Although I'm not sure what Premium german ship would really benefit from RPF that much.

[Butterdoll]

On 10/13/2017 at 2:14 AM, Aotearas said:

 

Probably Cambeltown then rather than the V-25. Someone put a high level RN captain on there for a little sealclubbing.

 

could be, I'm not sure I went back but the info button doesn't got the information anymore.

 

On 10/13/2017 at 2:14 AM, wilkatis_LV said:

So.. this one?

 

That's called RPF (Radio-Positioning-Finder)

4 point commander skill. Points in the [general] direction of the closest enemy ship. Does not give any other info.

 

While there is a slight chance that Jurien or V-25 could have been sealclubbing like that, my money is on Campbeltown (a premium ship) just having some high tier RN CL captain in it who had that skill.

 

RPF does not reveal you, all they get is that 1 guy seeing [general] direction to you are from him

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that one.

 

I always thought that was the radar sign.

 

So, like some kind of last known position but there?

 

Until now I'm only getting hydro, so I guess I'm not used to radar.

 

I don't do  15k per game, sometimes more, sometimes less.

 

yeah, pointing the time I needed it to find where and how I could upgrade my ships and buying them, by the time I discovered how and where I went from Erie direct to Phoenix. (yes, I thought that free xp were the xp needed to unlock the ships) after that I unlocked some 10 ships .

you see, Ionly come to the forum after that.

Sad but true.

 

 

[RenamedUser_92906789]

I hate it, how they unified the "Located" indicator with radar / hydro icon...

[Gnirf]

18 minutes ago, nambr9 said:

I hate it, how they unified the "Located" indicator with radar / hydro icon...

How do you mean? To my knowledge they are entirely different, the arrow with located is white and the yellow almost circular for radar.

[RenamedUser_92906789]

4 minutes ago, Gnirf said:

How do you mean? To my knowledge they are entirely different, the arrow with located is white and the yellow almost circular for radar.

 

Didnt they used to show that arc (same as when you have RL) just that it was stationary?

[Gnirf]

10 minutes ago, nambr9 said:

 

Didnt they used to show that arc (same as when you have RL) just that it was stationary?

I was thinking at the recieving end as the OP

[RenamedUser_92906789]

Just now, Gnirf said:

I was thinking at the recieving end as the OP

Anyways ... I am using a custom icon mod (by BlueMan) and It did not show "RPF located" same icon as "radar hydro".

Since the mod just changes Icons, i figured that the source image is the same... will check with the author.

[Gnirf]

Just now, nambr9 said:

Anyways ... I am using a custom icon mod (by BlueMan) and It did not show "RPF located" same icon as "radar hydro".

Since the mod just changes Icons, i figured that the source image is the same... will check with the author.

Well I do not have any mods the problems that many indicates with upgrades when they use mods make me not use anything.

[Gleb_Reawer]

6 hours ago, Butterdoll said:

 

I always thought that was the radar sign.

 

So, like some kind of last known position but there?

 

Until now I'm only getting hydro, so I guess I'm not used to radar.

 

 

 

This is what RPF/RL looks for the user, it's not 100% accurate and jumps left or right when the relative position of the ships change enough.

 

[FallenOrchid]

I once got located while playing Black Swan. In the enemy team there was a guy with 4000+ matches in Black Swan

[Procrastes]

1 hour ago, FallenOrchid said:

I once got located while playing Black Swan. In the enemy team there was a guy with 4000+ matches in Black Swan

 

My highest ranking IJN commander has his ordinary battle station on the Kuma, and serves occasionally on the Atago, the Yubari and the Tamagochi Tachibana. He still plays more battles in the Kuma than in all the others combined; to me, she's just that fun to play.

 

Now, four thousand battles in the Black Swan, that shows a dedication few ships can boast of! I doff my hat, Sir! 

[Klopirat]

1 hour ago, FallenOrchid said:

I once got located while playing Black Swan. In the enemy team there was a guy with 4000+ matches in Black Swan

 

I met someone who has 1 PvP match and 6536 Coop...6495 are Tier1, 5315 Black swan (and he is pink very often when I met him)...so he could have RPF, but I guess he doesn't use skills...

[triumphgt6]

How do you go pink in a Black Swan!! You can’t even ram a friendly ship properly - just slowly grind it down!!

 

[wilkatis_LV]

10 hours ago, Butterdoll said:

that one.

 

I always thought that was the radar sign.

 

So, like some kind of last known position but there?

 

Until now I'm only getting hydro, so I guess I'm not used to radar.

 

I don't do  15k per game, sometimes more, sometimes less.

 

yeah, pointing the time I needed it to find where and how I could upgrade my ships and buying them, by the time I discovered how and where I went from Erie direct to Phoenix. (yes, I thought that free xp were the xp needed to unlock the ships) after that I unlocked some 10 ships .

you see, Ionly come to the forum after that.

Sad but true.

 

 

 

Yeah, that's RPF. On the other end it looks like this:

 

 

The guy who has it gets this little line indicating that the closest ship to him is somewhere in that direction.

 

Hydro and Radar share the same icon, so in games with tier7+ ships you might have easily been radared without realizing it.

Ships who have radar are:

t7 -> Payfast, Indianapolis, Atlanta (note that all 3 are premiums)

From tier 8 and up US cruisers (NewOrleans, Baltimore, DesMemes), RU cruisers have it (Chappy, Donkoi, Moskva), UK cruisers (Edinburgh, Neptune, Minotaur) may use it but that's not a popular one since they would have to give up smokescreen for it

Also at t9 Missouri (the only BB with it) and Black (the only DD with it) have Radar

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Of course you don't do exactly 15k every time, that is your average.

 

And at least you admit that it took you some time to learn instead of proclaiming yourself an all-knowing unicorn like most seem to do :P

[Butterdoll]

On 10/13/2017 at 9:22 AM, Gleb_Reawer said:

 

This is what RPF/RL looks for the user, it's not 100% accurate and jumps left or right when the relative position of the ships change enough.

 

 

 

On 10/13/2017 at 1:00 PM, wilkatis_LV said:

Yeah, that's RPF. On the other end it looks like this:

 

 

The guy who has it gets this little line indicating that the closest ship to him is somewhere in that direction.

 

Hydro and Radar share the same icon, so in games with tier7+ ships you might have easily been radared without realizing it.

Ships who have radar are:

t7 -> Payfast, Indianapolis, Atlanta (note that all 3 are premiums)

From tier 8 and up US cruisers (NewOrleans, Baltimore, DesMemes), RU cruisers have it (Chappy, Donkoi, Moskva), UK cruisers (Edinburgh, Neptune, Minotaur) may use it but that's not a popular one since they would have to give up smokescreen for it

Also at t9 Missouri (the only BB with it) and Black (the only DD with it) have Radar

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First, thank you all.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong or I misunderstood.

the radar, well, up until now I've been only on the receiving end .

 

Is that it? Is that all?

When I'm being LOCATED, it's not from radar, but it's from the captain skill without the  radar module, and the other guy all that get's is like a six sense where the other is or might be as the spider sense of the spider man, nothing more.

 

Is this the radar sign (the big bad wolf that everyone talks about?) Saroman's all seeing eye?

 

if so, you probably right, I probably didn't realized it , a lot of detected, located. Many times, detected it's my dd tip to start hunting, my dd detector.

 

but, this is Hydro, right?

 

 

As a cruiser main this I use it a lot ,on the attack or at defence but never seen this sign either, when I use it the other ship and it's torpedoes pops out, short range, etc, I understand, but by now at least a few occasional or erratic signs. popping out, right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 10/13/2017 at 0:22 PM, triumphgt6 said:

How do you go pink in a Black Swan!! You can’t even ram a friendly ship properly - just slowly grind it down!!

 

 

I've seen a lot of pink t1 too, back when I was in it.

[eliastion]

15 minutes ago, Butterdoll said:

First, thank you all.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong or I misunderstood.

the radar, well, up until now I've been only on the receiving end .

 

Is that it? Is that all?

When I'm being LOCATED, it's not from radar, but it's from the captain skill without the  radar module, and the other guy all that get's is like a six sense where the other is or might be as the spider sense of the spider man, nothing more.

 

Is this the radar sign (the big bad wolf that everyone talks about?) Saroman's all seeing eye?

 

if so, you probably right, I probably didn't realized it , a lot of detected, located. Many times, detected it's my dd tip to start hunting, my dd detector.

 

but, this is Hydro, right?

 

 

As a cruiser main this I use it a lot ,on the attack or at defence but never seen this sign either, when I use it the other ship and it's torpedoes pops out, short range, etc, I understand, but by now at least a few occasional or erratic signs. popping out, right?

 

On low tiers you're not very likely to be Hydro-spotted because of the extremely low range of the consumable (well, you can try and charge smokes with it to pick up enemy DDs that way but that's asking for point-blank torps).

On high tier there are both Radars (that can have a long range, the shortest generally start at around 8km) and longer range Hydro that can realistically pick you up when you're sneaking around islands in a DD.

 

Getting spotted by Radar/Hydro looks similar to being spotted normally but there's a radar circle next to the exclamation mark. Also, you only see it if it's the ONLY way the enemies spot you: you're always shown the most direct way you're spotted so

1. Ship spotted? If yes, the game shows you the standard icon.

2. Not ship spotted -> plane spotted? If yes, then the game shows the plane-spotted icon.

3. Neither ship nor plane spotted -> Radar/Hydro spotted? If yes, the game shows radar-spotted icon.

4. Not Ship, plane OR radar spotted? Enjoy your invisibility (and, more importantly, no pesky "spotted" icons cluttering the screen) 

 

This is a bit of a pain for DDs sometimes because they might not know if they're Radar/Hydro spotted if something spots them by some other means (I did waste smoke a couple times because I thought I was out of Radar range, or that it had run out... when it didn't).

[Zogash85]

I just wish there were different 'spotted' icons for hydro and radar. It has happened lots of times that I was spotted by something with the "radar/hydro" icon but would have liked to know if it was just a short term radar spotting me, so evade for a bit until it expires and then resume close-range play, or long-duration hydro, which would necessitate widening the distance. Sure, you can appraise the minimap and deduce which ships in hydro and/or radar range are possible spotters, but in those clutch "oh-poop-I'm-spotted-in-my-smoke"-situations, you don't really have the time for that.