Full price for 25% HP LOSS?

[Bad_Mojo_incoming]

I have only played 614 battles so far, but I haven't really noticed this yet, but now I have.

I finally got my hands on a Bismarck, my first Tier 8 and I love it, except for the hectic accuracy, but that's not the point I want to make.

My point is that I have fought 17 battles in the Bismarck, and there were a few battles where I have survived with MORE than 60-70% of my ships health (without repair crew) remaining, yet the game STILL charges me the same FULL price for servicing/repairing the ship as it does for a sunk ship. HOW IS THIS? Ammo resupply coasting the same is ok and understandable, but charging FULL repair for a 30% damaged, surviving ship? Am I the only one who finds this a bit unfair and MORE than a little bit greedy on WG's part?

 

In World of Tanks you pay repair in accordance to the level of damage your tank has suffered. But you have to pay full price in Warships even if your ship only gets a few scratches?

[El2aZeR]

Just now, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

HOW IS THIS?

 

Service cost is the same regardless of HP loss. This was made to discourage camping and punish cowardice.

Didn't work obviously.

[Bad_Mojo_incoming]

Thx for clearing that up El2aZeR.

 

Well, screw this then. FULL repair cost for even a SINGLE scratch? This was made to encourage purchasing premium account and premium ships if you want to play higher tier ships.

 

As if I needed reassurance that WG's greed is beyond most. I spent about 7-800 Euros on WoT and WoWs...WG can forget getting a single more cent from me.

[Panocek]

Game used to have repair bills tied to damage taken (and minimal fee for entering battle). 270k repairs for T10 BB were used as cheap excuse for "passive gameplay" by whiner parts of community, so WG changed it for flat fee. Thus if you're about to go down, go down with guns blazing.

 

Some insight about "good old times" https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2016/01/29/wows-datamined-repair-ammo-cost-value-tables/

[Tungstonid]

2 minutes ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

Thx for clearing that up El2aZeR.

 

Well, screw this then. FULL repair cost for even a SINGLE scratch? This was made to encourage purchasing premium account and premium ships if you want to play higher tier ships.

 

As if I needed reassurance that WG's greed is beyond most. I spent about 7-800 Euros on WoT and WoWs...WG can forget getting a single more cent from me.

 

No, full repair even if you survived the battle WITHOUT any scratch. Until a while ago repair costs where handled like in WoT but as El2aZeR said the WoWS team changed it so that you now pay a fixed service fee which solely depends on the tier. Ship class doesn't matter, damage taken doesn't matter. However, it was balanced in a way that the service fee is always lower than a full repair would have been IIRC. Does it work? Considering that we get threads like this from time to time and from what I see in battle I doubt it. Most players seem to not even be aware of this.

Does it encourage buying premium ships and time? Not more or less than WoT does. I usually don't have a premium account and I rarely use premium ships and still I can afford to play a lot of tier 8+ and enjoy a steadily increasing credit balance. However, I don't play solely high tiers but also tier 6, 7 and sometimes lower.

[Blixies]

This changes highly promotes aggressive play and threads like these.

[Egoleter]

11 minutes ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

Well, screw this then. FULL repair cost service fee for even a SINGLE NO scratch?

 

Fixxed this for you.

 

You pay the full price all the time. It is calculated into the economy of the game. You are now making more or less the same credits you made before the change was introduced.

A welcome excuse for players to camp at the furthest reaches of the map was to avoid repair cost, while their ship might have made a difference at the actual battle location. The change didn't have as much influence as it was hoped for.

 

The players asked Wargaming repeatedly, and still do, to do something against the camping meta. This attempt might have failed but it had nothing to with greed in any way.

[SV_Kompresor]

10 minutes ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

Thx for clearing that up El2aZeR.

 

Well, screw this then. FULL repair cost for even a SINGLE scratch? This was made to encourage purchasing premium account and premium ships if you want to play higher tier ships.

 

As if I needed reassurance that WG's greed is beyond most. I spent about 7-800 Euros on WoT and WoWs...WG can forget getting a single more cent from me.

 

Anybody that is at least semi-competent can make money in tier 8 ships without giving WG any money. And yes of course the point is to buy stuff to be able to afford playing higher tiers. How do you think companies make money? By harvesting the autumn patch of € growing there?

[Major_Damage225]

Looks like the majority still think cost=damage taken, not like you can always look it up right. 

[SmartassNoob]

They should either completely remove the "cost" (because obviously a digital ship does not need repairs and can be copied infinitely), or at least rename it to something else. Like "price of entering battle", or something like that. Obviously most people will think damage taken = cost, as long as the game directly says that it's the price of fixing the ship and resupplying spent ammunition.

[Klopirat]

1 minute ago, SmartassNoob said:

as long as the game directly says that it's the price of fixing the ship

 

that's why it is called "service costs" and not "repair costs"...

[SmartassNoob]

There is no meaningful difference between those phrases.

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

welcome to wows , here you need pay even you full game camp , so better go in action^^

 

btw @SmartassNoob only 1k dev strikes ? thats low

[Panocek]

10 minutes ago, SmartassNoob said:

There is no meaningful difference between those phrases.

Repair indicates well, repairs. As object in question is warship, usually it revolves around duct taping holes around the ship and patching up torpedo dents. Service is more broad, it could be just as well as fuel, crew fee, insurance oil change or scraping rust off.

[ColonelPete]

21 minutes ago, SmartassNoob said:

There is no meaningful difference between those phrases.

Then improve your english. Service and repair are two different things.

[Major_Damage225]

12 minutes ago, xXx_Blogis_xXx said:

 

 

btw @SmartassNoob only 1k dev strikes ? thats low

This so gave me lolz

1k nice! 

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

2 minutes ago, Major_Damage225 said:

This so gave me lolz

1k nice! 

3-4k+ is nice :P bro

[SmartassNoob]

3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Then improve your english. Service and repair are two different things.

You don't service things that are completely fine. Similarly, you don't fix things that aren't broken. And in any case, it's safe to assume that the majority of players are not from english speaking nations.

 

 

 

By the way, it's around 1100, but I don't update the signature every day. 1000 is a nice round number.

[Egoleter]

5 minutes ago, SmartassNoob said:

You don't service things that are completely fine.

 

You service things to keep them fine. Without service things get broken and then they need repairs.

 

Let me add a real life example:

I love riding bicycles. So I make sure that my tires have the correct pressure, that the chain is properly oiled, that the brakes are working, and that the light is functioning properly. Checking these things, applying the necessary material to keep them running. That is service.

If the tire is flat, it needs repairs. If the chain broke I'll need to replace it. That's a repair too. If the brakes need replacement, well... that's actually still service as they will be used up over time. If the lights don't work, I'll repair them.

[Panocek]

2 minutes ago, SmartassNoob said:

You don't service things that are completely fine. Similarly, you don't fix things that aren't broken. And in any case, it's safe to assume that the majority of players are not from english speaking nations.

 

 

 

By the way, it's around 1100, but I don't update the signature every day. 1000 is a nice round number.

Or you service car to make sure its in running order. After all, you replace timing belt before it makes remarkable poop in engine when it breaks. Same with oil, tyres, brakes etc.

 

And last time I've checked WoWs is available in number  of languages to choose from

[ColonelPete]

30 minutes ago, SmartassNoob said:

You don't service things that are completely fine. Similarly, you don't fix things that aren't broken. And in any case, it's safe to assume that the majority of players are not from english speaking nations.

That is ok. But before you claim that something is not different, you can look it up. You are connected to the internet. Use it!!

[SmartassNoob]

By that logic we should have a monetary service tax on all ships we have in port and that tax should have nothing to do with battles.

[ColonelPete]

Stuff gets used up more when you use it.

[Jethro_Grey]

3 minutes ago, SmartassNoob said:

By that logic we should have a monetary service tax on all ships we have in port and that tax should have nothing to do with battles.

 

You are quite wrong on that one, so pls stop being a smartassnoob.

[SmartassNoob]

@ColonelPete I know what those words mean. What I meant was that there's no difference at all for the purpose of this discussion. In any case we have to pay for using ships and only those ships we use have to be "serviced", which strongly implies that they're only serviced as a result of the battle. Real vehicles have to be serviced regardless of weather you use them or not. You can't park a car and expect it to still be fine 2 years later. When was the last time anyone used USS Texas? And look what's happening to it.

 

@Jethro_Grey I am not wrong.