Is Yamato the worst T10 BB ingame now?

[RepSrb]

Lets keep it simple and real,

1.Conqueror APHE ,

2.GK. most HP  ,most repair ,12  gunns,

3.Montana ,armour , 12 gunns .

The most powerfull ship in the world and what should be ingame ,is being pulverized by some papership fantasies which in real world wouldnt have 60% or their paper-power,  and i dread when T10 SOVIET BB  comes, now that will be a fest.

[mtm78]

@MortenTardo someone is asking for Yamato buffs, where are thou?

 

 

@repsrb I think Yamato still has it's role, but it's pretty limited to the lolpen overmatch ability. Especially since it's a real battleship with a citadel. 

 

edit: thought that doesn't mean I think we will see any Yamato's in CW's... no point, Yamato is an anti battleship battleship, any of the other one's should do better in cruiser heavy meta I think. 

[Panocek]

Ability to lolpen more than half of ships you meet, great mid-long range accuracy, decent maneuvreability and the best torpedo belt in game... I don't think so

 

4th turret is tempting to use, so many battleships show broadside, which more often than not ends on receiving damage end.

 

[RepSrb]

yeah but montana has better AA too, others BB have 0 citadel , if you want to mention other abilities  i can go on too.....

[tank276]

It still has the punchiest guns in game.

I dont have the Conqueror yet, but the other 3 I do, and each of them has its different role, have around 50 battles played in Kurfurst and Monty and around 20 in the Yamato.

With the Yamato you definetely have to keep a distance from enemies (I dont mean 23 kms in the back) and avoid getting focus fired at the start.

[RepSrb]

the weakest T10 BB ingame is yamato- period.

[aboomination]

24 minutes ago, repsrb said:

The most powerfull ship in the world

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the weakest T10 BB ingame is yamato- period.

Why did you even ask?

 

Spoiler

 

 

[mtm78]

2 minutes ago, tank276 said:

With the Yamato you definetely have to keep a distance from enemies (I dont mean 23 kms in the back) and avoid getting focus fired at the start.

 

How times have changed right.. Yamato with the old heal was THE tank in game at first :( Not that I think it should get that heal back.. I rather see other BB's regain a citadel which is easier/more reliable to hit. 

 

Just now, repsrb said:

the weakest T10 BB ingame is yamato- period.

 

1. If you want to voice your opinion, why did you make the topic in the form of an question  

 

2. Yamato is the strongest battleship in the game, in some situations ( mainly in BB vs BB combat ). Yamato is the weakest in many other situations. Currently I think after Mongerror I would play a Montana due to stealth / reliable guns. Then Yamato, and only then CurryWurst. Because Curry has the least reliable guns, is the least mobile platform ( iirc, tad worse as my Yamato ) and generally does best in a meta where it can push reliably. 

 

Again, it's not an easy question to answer in general. If you specify which situation, it's much easier to point out which ship would be better off. Also, in current BB heavy meta, Yamato is actually even stronger as in a cruiser heavy meta where balance shift more towards Montana for instance. 

 

 

[Skyllon]

18 minutes ago, repsrb said:

Lets keep it simple and real,

1.Conqueror APHE ,

2.GK. most HP  ,most repair ,12  gunns,

3.Montana ,armour , 12 gunns .

The most powerfull ship in the world and what should be ingame ,is being pulverized by some papership fantasies which in real world wouldnt have 60% or their paper-power,  and i dread when T10 SOVIET BB  comes, now that will be a fest.

 

1. Conqueror APHE, AP, Heal, Concealment, Maneuverability and since MT had been called out, I'm not going to mention excellent AA.

 

[tank276]

5 minutes ago, mtm78 said:

 

How times have changed right.. Yamato with the old heal was THE tank in game at first :( Not that I think it should get that heal back.. I rather see other BB's regain a citadel which is easier/more reliable to hit. 

Indeed, although I didnt have a Yamato back then, I have heard the stories and watched the older youtube videos.

But nowadays it doesnt compare to the GK for brawling, even Montana in the right hands (not my hands for sure,my WR in her is just abysmally bad).

[tank276]

16 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Ability to lolpen more than half of ships you meet, great mid-long range accuracy, decent maneuvreability and the best torpedo belt in game... I don't think so

 

4th turret is tempting to use, so many battleships show broadside, which more often than not ends on receiving damage end.

 

Ehhh, 3rd turret you mean, if it did have 4 it would truly be a monster with +33% firepower.

[Exocet6951]

I can already sense frothing at the mouth when I say what I'm going to say next, but I built my Yammie with secondary spec, mostly because I use the captain in the Mikasa and EasySushi
I can honestly say that I have a hell of a lot of fun doing it as long as it's not epicenter, and that I never feel outmatched by anything (except Conq+Lion herp derp HE).

 

An aggressive Yammie just has that special place in a team where it's just the center of attention.
So while the enemy team wants to kill you, your team also wants to follow.
You're like some guy in a battle charging with a weapon in one hand, and a standard in the other. Everyone can see you and the enemy wants to kill you.
But you charge ahead like the magnificent bastard that you are.
It's such an intimidating sight that entire flanks can buckle, simply because people just want to stay away from you and your lolpen guns.

 

In that regard, I see the Yamato as the most powerful ship in the game, simply because its presence alone can stir up fighting spirit in random battles.

 

 

 

_{PS: No I'm not drunk, I swear :<}

[RepSrb]

14 minutes ago, aboomination said:

Why did you even ask?

 

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i thought i might be proven wrong , but typical mocking posts /and 0 evidence/ i am certain now.

[Affeks]

Yamato is the worst in my opinion... Its the only BB that you get punished for showing broadside in. All others have either very low citadel or thick turtleback/spaced armor.

 

Tbh Yamato isnt weak, but damn the other BBs are way to strong. Especially CQ ofc

 

I hope WG nerf them soon (except for Yamato)

[mtm78]

I like having enemies at 12km or so, gives you some reaction time and you might even be able to switch targets 2km apart during a single reload ( glacial turrets... ). I don't like playing Yamato due to being so static, you can give far less broadside while visible or you take citadels from cruisers reliably which makes it extremely team reliant ( also situational awareness but also a lot of team support ). Also due to bad stealth you can't really disengage usually so you have to kill whatever is in front of you and then pray enemy isn't already creeping up on your flanks. 

 

A stealthy BB might have less battle presence, in a good player's hand I rather fight a bowtanking Yamato as a stealth Montana which hasn't been spotted for 2 minutes. 

[Panocek]

3 minutes ago, tank276 said:

Ehhh, 3rd turret you mean, if it did have 4 it would truly be a monster with +33% firepower.

 

4th turret on other T10 battleships, not on Yamato.

[Comrad_StaIin]

the Yamato is 100m stealthier than GK and 100m less stealthy than Montana so the only real stealth BB is Conq at 11.1

[Exocet6951]

6 minutes ago, mtm78 said:

 

A stealthy BB might have less battle presence, in a good player's hand I rather fight a bowtanking Yamato as a stealth Montana which hasn't been spotted for 2 minutes. 

 

Hiding during battle is heresy.

 

 

 

[Pupu_prpr]

Ah someone is comparing T10 BBs, calling one of them the weakest, surely he has a lot of experience playing all 4 to make such a claim.

 

Opens profile. Only T10 BB OP owns is Yamato.

 

Why am I even surprised?

[mtm78]

2 minutes ago, Kaseko said:

the Yamato is 100m stealthier than GK and 100m less stealthy than Montana so the only real stealth BB is Conq at 11.1

 

Are you sure the difference is that small when both spec correctly?

[Comrad_StaIin]

1 minute ago, mtm78 said:

 

Are you sure the difference is that small when both spec correctly?

yes

 

Großer Kurfürst: 13.6

Yamato:              13.5

Montana:            13.4

[mtm78]

1 minute ago, Exocet6951 said:

 

Hiding during battle is heresy.

 

 

 

 

It's not hiding if it means I can devastate someone from a new position as long as he doesn't know I'm moving there  

 

Ofc this is NOT saying those shima's going 10 line to come behind enemy team with 5 minutes left in the game and 4 caps behind... yeah... indeed :D

 

Just now, Kaseko said:

yes

 

Had to check but you're right, it's all nicely close together... except Mongerror. Guess I was stuck with difference Izumo / Iowa  

[RepSrb]

pitifull , if you want to dispute me , then state your arguments and say which t10 BB is worst and why.......

[aboomination]

4 minutes ago, repsrb said:

pitifull , if you want to dispute me , then state your arguments and say which t10 BB is worst and why.......

I think they're all balanced - excluding the Conqueror. Stats show this as well.

[Exocet6951]

2 minutes ago, repsrb said:

pitifull , if you want to dispute me , then state your arguments and say which t10 BB is worst and why.......

 

You see, the interesting thing about asymetric balance is that it's incredibly hard to just point at one thing and say "this is the worst"

Because of the nature of the game, and the myriad of balance points, even if the Yammie has the worst AA, worst armor, worst speed, worst amount of guns, worst turret traverse, etc...the immense strength of having guns capable of overmatching 32mm of armor with the accuracy to go along with it elevates it to something downright invaluable to the team.