Team torped again :-(

[Cyclops_]

Playing tonight in my DD (Fubaki) at the start of game moved up to spot, turned to the left across the map and smoked my team, just about to take cover behind an island as i was spotted ( I  had not changed direction) when clan mate on ts shouted about torps, looked to my left ( back towards the team ) just as 3  torps headed straight at my broadside no chance to turn hardly before I got hit and sunk by a Graf Spee on my own team, typed  he was *Edited and waited, no reply, typed that an "apology would have been nice" when he typed, "your fault, you ran into them"!!!!!  

He was chastised by a few others on the team but was not repentant, why oh why do *Edited torp from the second line 

 

fortunately we did win 

 

[Chaos_Umbra]

Had this the other day but avoided it... in my case I was in my Warspite leading a charge into a cap dodging torps from the enemy Aoba in front and the allied Duca D'Aosta from behind, all while brawling with an enemy Arizona in the cap... Thank god for the tight turning circle on the Warspite, but annoying never the less some people never learn... 

[Major_Damage225]

And this is why we cant have Kitakami 

[SmartassNoob]

At least he tried warn you when he noticed the mistake. I've seen some cruisers who try to torp BBs from like 10 km away while there's islands and team mates along the way.

[AmazingBeaver]

I never avoid torps from second line. If I lose the game because of that, fine. Teamkillers tend to get reported by both teams and it's the only way they really learn after few chatbans

[ajb13]

Welcome to the weekend 

 

1 minute ago, SmartassNoob said:

At least he tried warn you when he noticed the mistake. I've seen some cruisers who try to torp BBs from like 10 km away while there's islands and team mates along the way.

 

It was his division mate who warned him, not the Graf Spee player.

[SmartassNoob]

4 minutes ago, Major_Damage225 said:

And this is why we cant have Kitakami 

BS! You can't have that because you fear how OP it would be if I'd get my hands on it. 

Just now, ajb13 said:

Welcome to the weekend 

 

 

It was his division mate who warned him, not the Graf Spee player.

Oh. 

[Exocet6951]

12 hours ago, Cyclops_ said:

Playing tonight in my DD (Fubaki) at the start of game moved up to spot, turned to the left across the map and smoked my team, just about to take cover behind an island as i was spotted ( I  had not changed direction) when clan mate on ts shouted about torps, looked to my left ( back towards the team ) just as 3  torps headed straight at my broadside no chance to turn hardly before I got hit and sunk by a Graf Spee on my own team, typed  he was expletive idiot and waited, no reply, typed that an "apology would have been nice" when he typed, "your fault, you ran into them"!!!!!  

He was chastised by a few others on the team but was not repentant, why oh why do idiots torp from the second line 

 

fortunately we did win 

 

 

 

*cough*

 

Welcome to WoWS, where an ally will shoot you, then blame you for getting shot, then start a thread how shooting allies makes him angry at his allies.


*Edited

[ajb13]

1 hour ago, Cyclops_ said:

just as 3  torps headed straight at my broadside no chance to turn hardly before I got hit and sunk by a Graf Spee on my own team, typed  he was expletive idiot and waited, no reply 

 

 

I prefer to use sarcasm ie. 'Nice torps Graf Spee, you ever tried doing that against the red team?'

[Cyclops_]

25 minutes ago, SmartassNoob said:

At least he tried warn you when he noticed the mistake. I've seen some cruisers who try to torp BBs from like 10 km away while there's islands and team mates along the way.

I think you miss read me, It was a clan mate on team speak that warned me, albeight to late for me, not the ruddy numpty who fired them.

Ooooops!!, just read other replies 

[RUSSIANBlAS]

If someone 2nd line torps then eat them and flood out so you pink them. 

 

Turn into them on purpose if you feel like it. 

 

There's simply no excuses for torp TK. If there is any danger you'll hit your team then don't launch. Yeah it can block you getting kills sometimes but that's just how it is.

[Butterdoll]

I know that's hard to figure it out each case.

but what about when you are supporting a green dd going for a cap and he smokes right ahead of you, leaving you blind.

another thing.

today I received a warning.

don't shoot at your allies.

well, I was supporting a dd (odeloi?) going for cap, he smoked just before the cap (a red dd was already in it ), so I bow in to the smoke and rush it, to get in range of my hydro.

before I putted the goggles I saw the odeloi on my left.

What I expect to happened, happened, the green dd support me while I was in close range.

but he went between the red dd and me and I have to suspend fire. (rail guns).

 

[El2aZeR]

I accidentally killed a teammate with torps today. Was in a brawl with my newly re-purchased Königsberg against a Gneisenau, killed him with guns before my torps could land and some friendly DD down the line apparently sailed into them. While I ask myself how he sailed into my torps without deliberately turning into them, I did throw them from the second line and I accept full responsibility.

[edited] happens.

[AnotherDuck]

4 hours ago, Cyclops_ said:

I got hit and sunk by a Graf Spee on my own team

 

This is him being a potato.

 

4 hours ago, Cyclops_ said:

typed  he was expletive idiot

 

This is you being a [edited].

 

4 hours ago, Cyclops_ said:

"apology would have been nice"

 

This is you being more of a [edited] as you expect an apology after you've been a [edited]. No, you don't get to eat the cake and still have it.

 

4 hours ago, Cyclops_ said:

"your fault, you ran into them"

 

This is the response you deserve. Also, he's a [edited].

[DFens_666]

11 hours ago, AmazingBeaver said:

I never avoid torps from second line. If I lose the game because of that, fine. Teamkillers tend to get reported by both teams and it's the only way they really learn after few chatbans

 

Ye, same for me. If i continue my path and they hit me, i wont avoid. If i have to change my path due to angling or avoiding enemy torps, ill rather take the friendly torps to teach them a lesson. Even tho they prolly never learn.

[MaxxyNL]

FubAki ❤ = best ❤!  

 

Playing tonight in my DD (Fubaki)

[AnotherDuck]

24 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

Ye, same for me. If i continue my path and they hit me, i wont avoid. If i have to change my path due to angling or avoiding enemy torps, ill rather take the friendly torps to teach them a lesson. Even tho they prolly never learn.

 

I sometimes catch them deliberately. Depends on my mood, the colour of the torper's ship, and the seasonal migration of the northern salmons. And maybe a little bit of situational awareness. You can usually determine the stupidity of the torper. Sometimes they're well-aimed, just that you made an unexpected turn or changed speed, and they failed to take that into account, or took a gamble that you wouldn't head there. Sometimes they really should've taken that into account. Sometimes you're sailing past a DD sitting in smoke, or stealthing in a cap (although these cases you have no time to react, so piece of advice, if you pass a stationary DD on the inside, try to pass as close as you can, so you get within the torpedo arming distance), and in those situations it's easy to miss someone showing up suddenly. Sometimes it's a flanker torping from the other side so the torps are coming from your front. Sometimes it's a bloody Hipper firing torpedoes when the closest enemy is 13 km away. And sometimes, just sometimes, they actually warn you well ahead of time.

 

I mean, it's not like "second line torping" is the same situation each and every time. People aren't required to play perfectly each and every time. You sure aren't, no matter who you are.

[iJoby]

14 hours ago, Cyclops_ said:

an "apology would have been nice" when he typed, "your fault"

 

I was torped by a team mate Friant this morning, he never apologised, but I felt good knowing he will probably have to play 5-10 games as a pinkie.

[Skyllon]

13 hours ago, SmartassNoob said:

At least he tried warn you when he noticed the mistake. I've seen some cruisers who try to torp BBs from like 10 km away while there's islands and team mates along the way.

 

I've seen Zao's using torps from second line on targets 10km away going in...

...opposite direction.

 

Even engaging in discussions that 'they might have longer range'...

 

 

9 minutes ago, iJoby said:

 

I was torped by a team mate Friant this morning, he never apologised, but I felt good knowing he will probably have to play 5-10 games as a pinkie.

 

Friant. You can expect it on such a low tier. Kind of. But at higher ones there are no excuses.

Good and mendatory introductory set of missions would help I think. It is great we have such a tutorial in game.

Oh wait...

[Capra76]

11 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

I accidentally killed a teammate with torps today. Was in a brawl with my newly re-purchased Königsberg against a Gneisenau, killed him with guns before my torps could land and some friendly DD down the line apparently sailed into them. While I ask myself how he sailed into my torps without deliberately turning into them, I did throw them from the second line and I accept full responsibility.

[edited] happens.

 

The difference between a good player and a bad one: the good player makes a mistake and recognises it, the baddie makes a mistake and blames someone else.

[BrusilovX]

As a DD player I have to avoid torpedoes from 'team mates' too many times - it's not just cruisers doing it either BBs as well.

 

I try and contest the cap but if spotted (planes, radar, hydro or a more stealthy DD) I bug out if I have to.   A number of games I've had a cruiser fire torpedoes when I was on one side of an island (form entering the cap) and even after a warning they fired again when I was trying to get out and was his by 2 torps.  I was in a Kamikaze and after having lost most of my health just let myself flood out.

 

Players that do such things blame the player for running into torpedoes but the moto should be - If in doubt don't fire.

[DFens_666]

5 hours ago, AnotherDuck said:

I mean, it's not like "second line torping" is the same situation each and every time. People aren't required to play perfectly each and every time. You sure aren't, no matter who you are.

 

Yes i agree. Usually if i see a ship torping which has a torp range of say 4 or 6 km and the target is sometimes even 15km away, then i wont ever evade. Sometimes i told ppl that its stupid what they do. 80% dont react at all, and half of the rest say that im stupid in return

[Deckeru_Maiku]

11 hours ago, AnotherDuck said:

I mean, it's not like "second line torping" is the same situation each and every time

 

Situation might differ, but rule #1 always stands: don't torp from 2nd row. Everybody not following that rule should be punished by having to play at least 100 WoT T10 battles in a T5 tank before he is allowed to play WoWs again.

[Ferry_25]

Yep. it happens. I was TK-ed today in my Shima. Heard the "torpedo warning" and still couldn't find the source. Untill, too late, they were "friendly" torps. The guy appologized very much so the matter was closed to me. In fact I tried to cheer him up: things happen. We are all human after all. Man I really felt sorry for him: he actually asked everyone to report him for his error. FFS: I've done tons of the same mistake. Should I report him? No OC not!

[AnotherDuck]

2 hours ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

Situation might differ, but rule #1 always stands: don't torp from 2nd row. Everybody not following that rule should be [do something even more retarded many more times and ruin far more players' games].

 

Quote edited for clarity.

 

No, that rule doesn't always stand. That's the rule you follow if you can't predict the game. But as with many rules, if you know them, and know them well, you can also learn when to break them. I often torp from second line, as even in destroyers I'm not always the closest ship. Sometimes a teammate charges ahead. Sometimes someone's just faster. Sometimes I'm torping a different front than the one I'm at, or in the process of relocating. There are tons of reasons. As I said, it's a different situation each time.

 

If you know how to read the match, you can learn when you can torp from second line. I've used the 20 km Shima torps while grinding the next set to shoot halfway across the map, with multiple allied ships in between and on the other side of the enemies. Someone could've pulled a Crazy Ivan, but I've not once hit a teammate that way. I'm pretty sure that the actual friendly hitrate because of second line torps is pretty low.

 

I've also many times been grateful of cruisers and destroyers torping in the cap I'm trying to cap, to clear out enemies. Yes, they're second line, and yes, I can easily be hit by those if I want to, but they still help me do my job.

 

The problem isn't that people launch torps from second line. The problem is that they don't know how to do it.