Hidden premium ships

[SmartassNoob]

I'm sure we all know that there's a lot of mythical rare premium ships in the game that have only been awarded for some weird events, or super-difficult missions, but there's no list of them. Some of them are rarely made available at the store for a couple of days, only to never be seen again for many months. It makes sense that the very over powered ones, like the tier 4 tier 5 Nikolai are not at the store, but others, are not so OP at all.

 

• Nikolai I.
• Katori.
• Kitakami.
• Some cruiser, nearly identical to Katori. Presumably also at tier 3. - Identified below as Yubari.
• Some japanese cruiser with 6 turrets. 3 at the front and 3 at the back. All of them in the same configuration as the Myoko front turrets. - Misidentified. Seems I thought about the Furutaka.
• 5-gun stealth Tenryu at tier 4. - Identified below as Iwaki Alpha.
• Arkansas Beta.
• Okhotnik.

 

Feel free to list the ones you know below. Also, if anyone knows more about the 6 turret cruiser, let me know.

[Kartoffelmos]

17 minutes ago, SmartassNoob said:

5-gun stealth Tenryu at tier 4.

 

This one? 

 

17 minutes ago, SmartassNoob said:

Some cruiser, nearly identical to Katori. Presumably also at tier 3.

Some japanese cruiser with 6 turrets. 3 at the front and 3 at the back. All of them in the same configuration as the Myoko front turrets.

 

Never heard about these two. Are you sure you're not confusing the the six-turreted one with Tone?

EDIT: You can also find all the ships that you can meet in the WG wiki. Is the low-tier cruiser perhaps Yūbari?

[SmartassNoob]

Ah yes, the Yubari. And yes, that's the one you pictured. I know it's an award that they don't want to sell.

[Vanhal]

Kitakami totally should be in store. Scratch that, even i don't like to watch the world burn THIS MUCH.

 

 

 

[Drunken_Jedi]

To be fair, there are very few premiums which aren't available or don't come around in promotions on a semi-regular basis. The Nikolai is too strong, I missed out on he but I wouldn't want to encourage even more broken BB bias at tier IV when we already have OP Orions stomping on everything in sight.

 

The Kitikami, I have fond memories of her and would love to see her back in the game. However the amount of second line torpedo TK'ing would be immense and if she does make a comeback I think she should be limited to those who took part in closed beta testing like myself otherwise it would just be a complete crap show.

 

Iwaki Alpha and Arkansas Beta are rewards for those who helped to test the game, see no reason for them to be put on sale.

[Tyrendian89]

Extended Tech Tree mod is a thing you know...

[RenamedUser_92906789]

:Smile_troll:

[Kartoffelmos]

Well, aren't Nikolai I and Gremyashchy (and perhaps König Albert if rumours are to believed) the only OP ships that are banned from the store?

Other than that, we have the alpha/beta reward ships (Iwaki Alpha and Arkansas Beta), Kitikami, which won't be sold/rewarded due to gameplay considerations (for now at least), Katori and the pre-order ships (Yūbari, Sims and the aforementioned Gremy).

 

So from all of those, only the pre-order ships (with one obvious exception) should be added to the regular store in my opinion. Hell, even the Gremy could be added, depending how stronk that ship is after the removal of stealth fire. I'm not sure why the Katori isn't available already though.

[Greyshark]

2 minutes ago, Kartoffelmos said:

Well, aren't Nikolai I and Gremyashchy (and perhaps König Albert if rumours are to believed) the only OP ships that are banned from the store?

 

Kamikaze is banned as well.

[SmartassNoob]

13 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said:

Extended Tech Tree mod is a thing you know...

Well they recently cracked down on mods.

15 minutes ago, Drunken_Jedi said:

The Kitikami, I have fond memories of her and would love to see her back in the game. However the amount of second line torpedo TK'ing would be immense and if she does make a comeback I think she should be limited to those who took part in closed beta testing like myself otherwise it would just be a complete crap show.

Maybe make it so that teamkilling in that 1 ship is punished more then?

 

And I know there's a 6 turret japanese cruiser in the game. It's somewhere in the medium tiers. I saw one yesterday, but I can't remember its name.

 

Edit: found it: http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Furutaka Wait... it's in the normal tree? How come it's rare then? Somehow I completely missed it. I guess it makes sense, since I probably free-XPd my way past it at some point.

[Kartoffelmos]

7 minutes ago, Greyshark said:

Kamikaze is banned as well.

 

Ah, right. Forgot about those (Kamikaze, Fūjin, Kamikaze R), even though the IJN rebalance happened quite some while ago .

 

4 minutes ago, SmartassNoob said:

And I know there's a 6 turret japanese cruiser in the game.

 

Wait, are you referring to the stock (or elite pre-buff) Furutaka? If so, she still exists, but there is no point in using hull A/B over the upgraded hull C ("mini-Aoba").

[warsinger2]

Only ship I would really like to see in game and that was announced at some point but never made it (although ship existed at some point for super testing) is IJN Tone.

 

Nikolai: Too OP, Kitakami: too problematic.

IJN Tone: 

 

[SmartassNoob]

3 minutes ago, Kartoffelmos said:

Wait, are you referring to the stock (or elite pre-buff) Furutaka?

Yes, I was editing my previous post while you posted. I don't know how I messed that up. I just don't have every ship. Somehow I just assumed it's something new.

 

 

@warsinger2 Yeah, the Tone would be nice. I don't see what the problem is. Just give it like 4 to 6 fighters, each on a separate cool-down. What's the big deal?

[Klopirat]

19 minutes ago, Kartoffelmos said:

I'm not sure why the Katori isn't available already though.

 

 

 

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I don't want them into the store, but I want a list of all ships and their info somewhere.

 

wiki ??

[warsinger2]

I really hope WG comes around one day and releases Tone and also brings Ise in her hybrid carrier form! 

[Major_Damage225]

Tone should be added to the game, it will, but first they have to figure out how to make it work, since having it as just another cruiser is too mondane, though with all the possible ideas that people came up with.... they cant say theyr out of ideas. 

[Kartoffelmos]

1 minute ago, Klopirat said:

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I meant beside special events. I don't see any point in keeping her outside the regular premium shop/in-game tech tree except creating artificial demand and even then, the ship isn't that special to attract other customers than collectors. 

[SmartassNoob]

3 minutes ago, warsinger2 said:

I really hope WG comes around one day and releases Tone and also brings Ise in her hybrid carrier form! 

The hybrid Ise would be pretty nice, but how would someone play it? Lake a carrier and have the turrets work as 20km secondary guns? Because switching between CV and BB modes would make it a super weak CV.

 

Were it up to me, I'd just make it work like a normal BB and have at least 6 fighters on separate cool-downs. It would already be plenty balanced by being a 4 turret Fuso.

[praetor_jax]

54 minutes ago, SmartassNoob said:

I'm sure we all know that there's a...

 

 

It seems that there is a lot less knowing and a lot more blind guessing on your part.

 

Btw you can look up a lot of those "hidden" ships in the wiki if you are interested in knowing.

[RamirezKurita]

13 minutes ago, SmartassNoob said:

@warsinger2 Yeah, the Tone would be nice. I don't see what the problem is. Just give it like 4 to 6 fighters, each on a separate cool-down. What's the big deal?

 

Because seaplanes aren't nearly developed enough to make ships that rely upon them like the Tone work. To throw out the Tone with just a few regular in-game seaplanes is to basically throw out all the potential for seaplane tenders, the Ise class and the aviation cruisers. For those ships, seaplanes aren't just a throwaway consumable, they are literally the defining feature of the ships.

[Drunken_Jedi]

37 minutes ago, SmartassNoob said:

Well they recently cracked down on mods.

Maybe make it so that teamkilling in that 1 ship is punished more then?

 

And I know there's a 6 turret japanese cruiser in the game. It's somewhere in the medium tiers. I saw one yesterday, but I can't remember its name.

 

Edit: found it: http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Furutaka Wait... it's in the normal tree? How come it's rare then? Somehow I completely missed it. I guess it makes sense, since I probably free-XPd my way past it at some point.

 

Could you be thinking of a A hull Furutaka? She's got six 203mm single mounted turrets. The only non-tech tree low tier CL's for the IJN are Katori, Iwaki Alpha and Yubari.

 

EDIT: Ninja'd... never mind. Would really like to try the Tone though, that's a really quirky design!

[Juanx]

You did not notice that at least 1 of the ships you mention is in the store right now?

How seriously do you expect to be taken?

[SmartassNoob]

12 minutes ago, RamirezKurita said:

 

Because seaplanes aren't nearly developed enough to make ships that rely upon them like the Tone work. To throw out the Tone with just a few regular in-game seaplanes is to basically throw out all the potential for seaplane tenders, the Ise class and the aviation cruisers. For those ships, seaplanes aren't just a throwaway consumable, they are literally the defining feature of the ships.

How are some seaplanes more powerful than others? Balance™? They should all be the same. Maybe the ones on this premium ship could fly a bit further and/or see better, but there's no sane way ro claim that they should magically be better here. The ability to either have 1 fighter in the air throughout the whole game (see behind every island), or to launch a whole squadron of fighters to completely take out approaching torpedo bombers (depending on how the player chooses to launch them) is powerful enough. The real Tone only had 6 planes. And it didn't "rely" on them to attack. It was meant to hang out with carriers and help protect them. Just like the Atlanta was never meant to fight other ships. It only carries AA guns and was meant to hang out near CVs.

[SmartassNoob]

4 minutes ago, Juanx said:

You did not notice that at least 1 of the ships you mention is in the store right now?

How seriously do you expect to be taken?

If you mean Katori, then I bought it last week. The point is that it's not always in the store. It'll be gone again very soon.

 

With light humour, but just barely seriously enough to make people wonder what if...

[Juanx]

5 minutes ago, SmartassNoob said:

If you mean Katori, then I bought it last week. The point is that it's not always in the store. It'll be gone again very soon.

 

With light humour, but just barely seriously enough to make people wonder what if...

 

Aha...

Man it must really be hard to be a part of this entitled generation...