torpedo range Khabarowsk needs a buff

[Soldier_Of_Faith]

The Khabarovsk had 10km range torpedos awhile back before a nerf down to 6km. The detection range is also rediculously high for a tier X dd. The Grozovoi which suppose to be a gunboat has 10km torpodos. What were you thinking wg? Were you thinking??

Khabarovsk is suppose to be a DESTROYER wg not a gunboat!! You really need get your act together and THINK before nerfs.

Yes, close to light cruiser but still a destroyer. Let Khabarovsk be a destroyer and Grozovoi a gunboat wg.

i recommend following: khabarovsk with 10km torpedos, 6 km detection with cpt perk and upgrade. Grozovoi with the current stat but with 7km torpedos. Whoever came up with the current khabarovsk nerf could not had come with up with anyhing more stupid. 

So developers, fix khabarovsk. Bring it back to the game as a destroyer, not a gunboat. Let Grozovoi be a gunboat.

[Nechrom]

Trolling is against the forum rules.

[Prospect_b]

4 minutes ago, Superior__ToeJam said:

i recommend following: khabarovsk with 10km torpedos, 6 km detection with cpt perk and upgrade.

 

edit: ninja'd by nechrom in a second :/

[Jethro_Grey]

Low-quality bait.

[mtm78]

OP has 17% wr in Kebab ( in six games... so meh ) and 55k damage. He wants it to be a torpedo boat so he can play like a Gearing in which he does 34k damage on average but has a win rate north of 50. 

 

I think  OP doesn't know how to play Kebab ( -> what Kebab role in battle is ). Maybe he should go to youtube and watch some flamu kebab gameplay. 

[Hedgehog1963]

8 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said:

Low-quality bait.

 

He's not a master baiter.  Oh wait...

[Loran_Battle]

Buff khab plz

[Jethro_Grey]

9 minutes ago, mtm78 said:

OP has 17% wr in Kebab ( in six games... so meh ) and 55k damage. He wants it to be a torpedo boat so he can play like a Gearing in which he does 34k damage on average but has a win rate north of 50. 

 

I think  OP doesn't know how to play Kebab ( -> what Kebab role in battle is ). Maybe he should go to youtube and watch some flamu kebab gameplay. 

 

Well, he could ask the SCRUBS clan to help him out, as i saw just yesterday how to use the Khaba as a torp boat by one of their members...who died seconds later to my Kutuzov. He still managed to get that almost full HP Amagi with torps tho. ^^

 

1 minute ago, Hedgehog1963 said:

 

He's not a master baiter.  Oh wait...

 

Would it violate the rules of this forum to point him to a quick google search for a how-to guide?

[ghostbuster_]

Buff khaba? LoL  this topic made my day

[WolfGewehr]

One of those topics I guess. Me after reading the title:

 

[Kreskent]

I think it could use a radar too since it has no defense against other DDs that outspot it by kilometers.

 

 

[von_chom]

47 minutes ago, Superior__ToeJam said:

The Khabarovsk .... a tier X dd.

 sure it is

[Loran_Battle]

32 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said:

 

Well, he could ask the SCRUBS clan to help him out, as i saw just yesterday how to use the Khaba as a torp boat by one of their members...who died seconds later to my Kutuzov. He still managed to get that almost full HP Amagi with torps tho. ^^

 

Who was it? So I can commend him for his heroic actions showing us how to truly play this game the window licking way. Khaba best torpedoboat confirmed.

[Jethro_Grey]

5 minutes ago, Kreskent said:

I think it could use a radar too since it has no defense against other DDs that outspot it by kilometers.

 

 

 

After the "GZ is fine" debacle and the RN BB HE flingers "we need more data to see the obvious" madness, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they'd give Khaba radar, seeing as it is "perfectly fine" on the Black. 

[Kreskent]

20 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said:

 

After the "GZ is fine" debacle and the RN BB HE flingers "we need more data to see the obvious" madness, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they'd give Khaba radar, seeing as it is "perfectly fine" on the Black. 

In other news, Japanese DDs are still mostly mediocre.

[Jethro_Grey]

3 minutes ago, Kreskent said:

In other news, Japanese DDs are still mostly mediocre.

 

In the mid-tiers yes, there are some mediocre boats, the high tiers are imo quite competitive. But that's just my humble opinion.

[ClappingLollies]

1 hour ago, Jethro_Grey said:

 

Well, he could ask the SCRUBS clan to help him out, as i saw just yesterday how to use the Khaba as a torp boat by one of their members...who died seconds later to my Kutuzov. He still managed to get that almost full HP Amagi with torps tho. ^^

 

That would be @T0byJug 

[Allied_Winter]

Just imagine: Khaba with 6km detection range, old turret traverse and rudder shift and 10km torps. With that buff you could make basically two entire classes at T10 useless... why not (now that I have the Khaba myself  )

 

 

 

Greetings

[Aotearas]

WG should finally fix that ship!

 

Why does it still get DD matchmaking? It's a light cruiser ffs ... boy did we have a great game today with my in my Khaba as the only DD in the game in a domination match, enemy got two DDs (Kiev and Shimakaze).

 

Give Khaba cruiser matchmaking already!

[T0byJug]

1 hour ago, MortenTardo said:

That would be @T0byJug 

You called darling....

[Panocek]

3 hours ago, Jethro_Grey said:

 

After the "GZ is fine" debacle and the RN BB HE flingers "we need more data to see the obvious" madness, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they'd give Khaba radar, seeing as it is "perfectly fine" on the Black. 

Bumping her range wouldn't hurt if you ask me. That or roll back rudder

 

After Tashkent buffs and Khaba nerfs she is kinda in Fletcher-Gearing relationship, with latter being not so much an upgrade

 

[Aotearas]

13 minutes ago, Panocek said:

After Tashkent buffs and Khaba nerfs she is kinda in Fletcher-Gearing relationship, with latter being not so much an upgrade

 

I disagree on that point. Fletcher trades a bit of gun dpm for better torpedo potential compared to the Gearing (and is less prone to taking AP pens due to its sleekier hull).

 

Tashkent has not insignificant better torpedo potential (mostly since it can still stealthtorp), but in a gunfight a Khaba will simply brutalize a Tashkent so comprehensively you can't really compare the two in that category with a straight face, in no small part due to its 50mm troll armour that causes a good chunk of HE to harmlessly shatter which makes the Khaba exceptionally tough to fight for any other DD (unless it gives a neat broadside and the enemy DD is shooting AP, but that would simply be a gross misplay for the Khaba). Khabarovsk always has and still does simply crap on every non-Khaba DD in a gunnery duel.

 

I'm not joking when I say the Khabarovsk should get cruiser matchmaking. For all intents and purposes, that thing plays like a light cruiser. Also comparing its gameplay to other DDs shows a night and day difference in roles (and makes me laugh every single time someone tells me to cap zones in the Khaba because "you're a DD" ... no, I'm really not).

 

Maybe buff the Tashkent aswell, give it increased armour thickness and have MM treat it like a light cruiser aswell to smooth the learning curve towards the Khaba. Let the Grozovoi be the standard DD for the russian line.

 

 

[Prospect_b]

3 hours ago, Aotearas said:

enemy got two DDs (Kiev and Shimakaze).

If your point is that in that match you weren't a dd because not suited for capping, enemy might not have had 2 dds. I have specced my kiew (just bought it) as pure gunboat as well, and I have 7.9 concealment, so I don't cap with it either generally.

[Aotearas]

Just now, PzychoPanzer said:

If your point is that in that match you weren't a dd because not suited for capping, enemy might not have had 2 dds. I have specced my kiew (just bought it) as pure gunboat as well, and I have 7.9 concealment, so I don't cap with it either generally.

 

They had the Shimakaze though ... and asymmetrical MM like this could be minimized if the matchmaking mirrored the actual play roles for DDs (and the Khaba simply doesn't play like conventional DDs of that tier bracket). Hence why Khaba should imho get cruiser matchmaking: it plays like one, group into into teams like one.

[Panocek]

1 minute ago, Aotearas said:

 

I disagree on that point. Fletcher trades a bit of gun dpm for better torpedo potential compared to the Gearing (and is less prone to taking AP pens due to its sleekier hull).

 

Tashkent has not insignificant better torpedo potential (mostly since it can still stealthtorp), but in a gunfight a Khaba will simply brutalize a Tashkent so comprehensively you can't really compare the two in that category with a straight face, in no small part due to its 50mm troll armour that causes a good chunk of HE to harmlessly shatter which makes the Khaba exceptionally tough to fight for any other DD (unless it gives a neat broadside and the enemy DD is shooting AP, but that would simply be a gross misplay for the Khaba). Khabarovsk always has and still does simply crap on every non-Khaba DD in a gunnery duel.

 

I'm not joking when I say the Khabarovsk should get cruiser matchmaking. For all intents and purposes, that thing plays like a light cruiser. Also comparing its gameplay to other DDs shows a night and day difference in roles (and makes me laugh every single time someone tells me to cap zones in the Khaba because "you're a DD" ... no, I'm really not).

 

Maybe buff the Tashkent aswell, give it increased armour thickness and have MM treat it like a light cruiser aswell to smooth the learning curve towards the Khaba. Let the Grozovoi be the standard DD for the russian line.

 

 

In straight up DD fight, Khaba wins due to having 8 barrels, although to point all 8 of them you need to show just enough broadside to stop AP ricochets and this is part where Gearing loldpm can shine with AP at close range. In casual baBBy molesting procedure extra range can certainly comes in handy, especially coupled with non cruiser rudder shift on Tashkent.

 

Fletcher have vastly more useful torpedoes, not only they hit harder but also reload way faster, up to 81s when specced for them. She is noticeably more maneuvreable, Gearing even with Propulsion mod is clumsy at times + mentioned increased AP pen risk. Fun per Tier, Gearing is simply worse than Fletcher, even if 2.4s reload on former can be quite a meme