[BEUK] warbds Beta Tester 29 posts 12,016 battles Report post #1 Posted September 27, 2017 Sorry for the comment but WHAT THE [edited] is happening with fires? I see 9 or more in 1 out of 2 fights, decided to leave any batlle in a BB after 8 CA's after 3 If this is what you want be my guest but don't expect me to fight in those battles. I will leave those battles any and every time when I reach that number. If that means I do let my teammembers down well so be it I want to have fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #2 Posted September 27, 2017 I bet you love the brit BB just like I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #3 Posted September 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, warbds said: Sorry for the comment but WHAT THE [edited] is happening with fires? I see 9 or more in 1 out of 2 fights, decided to leave any batlle in a BB after 8 CA's after 3 If this is what you want be my guest but don't expect me to fight in those battles. I will leave those battles any and every time when I reach that number. If that means I do let my teammembers down well so be it I want to have fun. According to WG having BB's which can shoot HE all game is not bad for the game. Guess you're just a confused player /sarcasm It's the increased amount of HE spam, which makes HE spam more effective due to DCP being forced more, which makes more people use HE which makes HE more powerful again... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-FF-] elblancogringo Players 1,207 posts 7,342 battles Report post #4 Posted September 27, 2017 I now see plenty of battleship captains firing HE. Not only in RN line, but even with US, IJN or KM battleships. This really begins to be ridiculous. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #5 Posted September 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, elblancogringo said: Not only in RN line, but even with US, IJN or KM battleships 10 minutes ago, mtm78 said: It's the increased amount of HE spam, which makes HE spam more effective due to DCP being forced more, which makes more people use HE which makes HE more powerful again... If you see a low hp BB and you see Orion start two fires on it and force a repair, will you shoot AP at his superstructure or HE anywhere to start a fire and kill him? HE + fires was balanced with the amount of fires started, now you have more people shooting HE it's gone off the scale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #6 Posted September 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, warbds said: If that means I do let my teammembers down well so be it I want to have fun. Play singleplayer games, I hear good things about Atlantic Fleet. With that attitude you don't belong into multiplayer games. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Teob_ Players 1,625 posts 14,901 battles Report post #7 Posted September 27, 2017 Well it's quite simple really. If you are unsure of your aim, even in BBs, using HE will probably net you more damage than poorly aimed AP. Especially if you snipe from 16+km. People are starting to get this. By "you" I mean someone. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGB] iJoby Community Contributor 2,171 posts 30,929 battles Report post #8 Posted September 27, 2017 32 minutes ago, warbds said: If that means I do let my teammembers down well so be it I want to have fun Terrible attitude, we all play for fun, truth is, I can't imaging you having any fun. <--- You <---- Rest of your team mates Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #9 Posted September 27, 2017 29 minutes ago, aboomination said: I bet you love the brit BB just like I do. Shhhhh Spoiler 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #10 Posted September 27, 2017 1 minute ago, MortenTardo said: Shhhhh Hide contents Unfriended! Utterly disgusting to be honest Only 17 fires, I would ask for a refund your Megazao is clearly broken! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #11 Posted September 27, 2017 I find it hillaurious to see a BB firing HE salvos into me all the time, then get's a hello salute of AP in return. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #12 Posted September 27, 2017 1 minute ago, mtm78 said: Unfriended! Utterly disgusting to be honest Only 17 fires, I would ask for a refund your Megazao is clearly broken! Noooooo! Well. 17 is plenty when you set 2, DCP is down and next salvo you set 3 xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #13 Posted September 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Major_Damage225 said: I find it hillaurious to see a BB firing HE salvos into me all the time, then get's a hello salute of AP in return. Is hillaurious if it's USN, IJN or KM BB's doing it. Not so hillaruious when you are on the reseving end of a Conq and lose 18k HP pluss 3 fires set on you with one salvo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #14 Posted September 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, MortenTardo said: Shhhhh Reveal hidden contents Spoiler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #15 Posted September 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Major_Damage225 said: I find it hillaurious to see a BB firing HE salvos into me all the time, then get's a hello salute of AP in return. I'd love to say the same, but since every BB seems to be having submersible citadels now, the alpha potential for AP is being ecclipsed by the sheer HE and fire dpm.* Of course you can still nuke basically every cruiser regardless of angle or distance, I guess AP is still superiour for that target profile. * Spoiler Unless we're talking poor powercreeped midtier BBs.* * Spoiler That aren't german ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #16 Posted September 27, 2017 I know its a bit "off topic" who cares A day in the life of: Akizuki vs a BB CA against a BB(dodge, dodge and get a shot off, hopefully) BB vs CA and DD Kamikaze R & company... buisness as usuall Dont ask me why i posted this, i just though why not. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #17 Posted September 27, 2017 41 minutes ago, MortenTardo said: Is hillaurious if it's USN, IJN or KM BB's doing it. Not so hillaruious when you are on the reseving end of a Conq and lose 18k HP pluss 3 fires set on you with one salvo. This might sound odd, but i havent had the pleasure or displeasure to be on the reciving end of a Conquk... yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #18 Posted September 27, 2017 Just now, Major_Damage225 said: This might sound odd, but i havent had the pleasure or displeasure to be on the reciving end of a Conquk... yet Yeah. In due time my friend, in due time. There are surprisingly few Conqs around though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #19 Posted September 28, 2017 7 hours ago, warbds said: Sorry for the comment but WHAT THE [edited] is happening with fires? I see 9 or more in 1 out of 2 fights, decided to leave any batlle in a BB after 8 CA's after 3 If this is what you want be my guest but don't expect me to fight in those battles. I will leave those battles any and every time when I reach that number. If that means I do let my teammembers down well so be it I want to have fun. I have an even better suggestion! Delete the game! Do not bother us with your incompetence. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Snoww Players 865 posts 23,320 battles Report post #20 Posted September 28, 2017 So let me get this straight; if you are angled and AP would do minimal damage you still want the enemy to shoot AP because??? In certain situations HE is the optimal choice and your basically just saying you don't like the fact people can still damage you. Yes it may be more useful in more situation on RN bbs than others but that's what they are made for and there is no problem with that as if they are focus fired they die faster than any other bb. If people stopped complaining about everything and started to learn to deal with it maybe we might have a good player base. Just a thought before you write "HE OP plez nerf" on the forums hey ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #21 Posted September 28, 2017 8 hours ago, warbds said: Sorry for the comment but WHAT THE [edited] is happening with fires? I see 9 or more in 1 out of 2 fights, decided to leave any batlle in a BB after 8 CA's after 3 If this is what you want be my guest but don't expect me to fight in those battles. I will leave those battles any and every time when I reach that number. If that means I do let my teammembers down well so be it I want to have fun. OP's most played ship = cleveland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #22 Posted September 28, 2017 20 minutes ago, Mr_Snoww said: So let me get this straight; if you are angled and AP would do minimal damage you still want the enemy to shoot AP because??? In certain situations HE is the optimal choice and your basically just saying you don't like the fact people can still damage you. Yes it may be more useful in more situation on RN bbs than others but that's what they are made for and there is no problem with that as if they are focus fired they die faster than any other bb. If people stopped complaining about everything and started to learn to deal with it maybe we might have a good player base. Just a thought before you write "HE OP plez nerf" on the forums hey ? You're missing the point. HE scales with the amount of people shooting it since DCP get's triggered by more people starting fires, DCP will be down more often and when down people will get more fires. This was balanced VS AP because of the ratio of HE / AP being used. Even a GOOD player has a much more viable option to go shoot HE as well since he will be lighting up people who don't have DCP available. This has nothing to do with HE OP PLOX NERF. Also if you think RN BB's are fine, I guess you're one of those who got a Monqueror in port already? 40% fire chance on tier 4 when enemies have 20% fire chance reduction ( only other tier with that fire chance is tier X.... where ship hulls have 50% fire chance reduction ), and it's 'fine'? HE alpha from tier 4 onwards higher as a Montana, fine and balanced? Concealment better as half the cruisers in the game, fine and balanced? Please, allow me to disagree with a vengeance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Snoww Players 865 posts 23,320 battles Report post #23 Posted September 28, 2017 21 minutes ago, mtm78 said: You're missing the point. HE scales with the amount of people shooting it since DCP get's triggered by more people starting fires, DCP will be down more often and when down people will get more fires. This was balanced VS AP because of the ratio of HE / AP being used. Even a GOOD player has a much more viable option to go shoot HE as well since he will be lighting up people who don't have DCP available. This has nothing to do with HE OP PLOX NERF. Also if you think RN BB's are fine, I guess you're one of those who got a Monqueror in port already? 40% fire chance on tier 4 when enemies have 20% fire chance reduction ( only other tier with that fire chance is tier X.... where ship hulls have 50% fire chance reduction ), and it's 'fine'? HE alpha from tier 4 onwards higher as a Montana, fine and balanced? Concealment better as half the cruisers in the game, fine and balanced? Please, allow me to disagree with a vengeance. Maybe spend more time in game than on the forums. The reason the British have better HE is because their AP has worse penetration than other battleships. They are also the most suceptable to torps and as I said above if focused they die the quickest due to their armour having 32 mm plates allowing mor penetrations than shatters. And when focused the heal does not really have much effect. So before saying they are OP try playing all the way up the line and learn their weaknessses too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #24 Posted September 28, 2017 14 minutes ago, Mr_Snoww said: Maybe spend more time in game than on the forums. Perfect argument, +9000 instantly! 14 minutes ago, Mr_Snoww said: The reason the British have better HE is because their AP has worse penetration than other battleships. It's only marginally worse, and doesn't need this much offsetting. 14 minutes ago, Mr_Snoww said: They are also the most suceptable to torps and as I said above if focused they die the quickest due to their armour having 32 mm plates allowing mor penetrations than shatters. WG's excuse being reiterated doesn't make things true. We'll see when stats 'stabilize' how 'balanced' RN BB's will turn out to be. I guess they kind of need to make broken BB lines to keep the babies content. 14 minutes ago, Mr_Snoww said: And when focused the heal does not really have much effect. Ow yeah.... sure... 14 minutes ago, Mr_Snoww said: So before saying they are OP try playing all the way up the line and learn their weaknessses too. No I am not playing a retarded mong line, I won't add to an already broken meta And I don't need to in order to comment on their statistics and performance. Unlike some shitters who shouldn't share their opinions since they clearly lack any understanding of the game, I CAN extrapolate things quite well even from just plain paper statistics ). edit: And to the surprise of NO ONE here, you indeed are one of the guys who already got Monqueror and by gawd is it your highest damage babyboat really? Beating your Yammy with 40k on average for instance? And you think it's 'balanced' right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P2Win Beta Tester 808 posts 8,067 battles Report post #25 Posted September 28, 2017 For my zao/hinden to keep up with the monquorer...I need to have 50% fire-chance and 3 second reload across the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites