Quite literally no point in aircraft carriers.

[Commander_Duke]

The aircraft carriers have been nerfed so much at lower tiers they're basically useless.

 

The only decent thing about an aircraft carrier are the air-air assault planes, but what's the point in just shooting down other planes.

 

Torpedo planes are so easy to predict where their torpedoes are dropping and when, it takes a mentally inept player to not be able to press E or G twice, and simply turn out of the way. The spread on the torps is so much even battleships can avoid them by sailing inbetween them.

Then it comes down to dive bombers. Dive bombers should be the most accurate methods of attacking a ship in this game, they literally fly over their target, and drop their bombs on top of them. Somehow, my bombers haven't been able to hit a single target, barring the odd "incapacitated" achievement that does absolutely [edited]all. 

 

This game has been completely ruined, not to digress, but AP shells are almost obsolete. It's near-impossible to get a citadel hit, it's almost if there's a chance system in play, because whenever I shoot the citadel of a ship, I take off 4k-6k health and get a "target hit" achievement, it's absolutely bonkers. 

 

What on earth have you done?

[MoveZig]

I get 50k average on Strike Bogue, it's still workable but it definitely feels like they took the scisssors approach to balancing the lower tiers. Just take away a core feature, that'll fix it.

[Commander_Duke]

1 minute ago, MoveZig said:

I get 50k average on Strike Bogue, it's still workable but it definitely feels like they took the scisssors approach to balancing the lower tiers. Just take away a core feature, that'll fix it.

It's ridiculous. I'll have to play about 400 games before I can advance up a tier with an aircraft carrier.

[Commander_Cornflakes]

*edited*

[aboomination]

 

https://wows-numbers.com/player/503973851,papedipupi

[Commander_Duke]

10 minutes ago, Commander_Cornflakes said:

>Has 17 CV games.

>Thinks he knows everything.

 

Learn how to change the direction of your autodrops so the enemy can't evade all of them, then come and talk to us again.

You can't change the direction of your autodrops. Hence why they're called... "Autodrops"? 

 

The only thing you can do is go on either side of the ship, then the enemy can still evade them. 

[Commander_Duke]

9 minutes ago, aboomination said:

 

https://wows-numbers.com/player/503973851,papedipupi

They are high tier aircraft carriers.

Lower tiers are nerfed.

 

Do you people even read posts, or see titles and comment without thinking :(

[aboomination]

4 minutes ago, Commander_Duke said:

They are high tier aircraft carriers.

Lower tiers are nerfed.

 

Do you people even read posts, or see titles and comment without thinking :(

At the lower tiers, where nobody has AA: Make them turn, turn, turn...they will slow down in the process, exposing their sides to your team, get out of position - then do a fake drop, they will slow down even more...and finally you let them eat your torps.

That is, IF someone even pays attention to your approach. I'm seeing this all the time in t4/5 matches.

And auto-DB? They shouldn't be too effective because there's even less skill involved.

 

Coming from the receiving end.

[Commander_Duke]

1 minute ago, aboomination said:

At the lower tiers, where nobody has AA: Make them turn, turn, turn...they will slow down in the process, exposing their sides to your team, get out of position - then do a fake drop, they will slow down even more...and finally you let them eat your torps when.

That is, IF someone even pays attention to your approach. I'm seeing this all the time in t4/5 matches.

It's something to try, but generally they lock their turn, so the autodrop spins around in circles. It's practically impossible to get a decent torp hit on them, and even if I did, one torp is like throwing a toothpick at a tank

[Commander_Cornflakes]

7 minutes ago, Commander_Duke said:

You can't change the direction of your autodrops. Hence why they're called... "Autodrops"? 

 

The only thing you can do is go on either side of the ship, then the enemy can still evade them. 

Alright, I'll teach you:

You see that thing in the red circle? You can move it with your mouse on the dashed line to change the direction from where your planes attack.

The result can look like this, where your bombers come from a bad angle but still drop so that the ship is perfectly in the drop circle.

 

The same for torpedobombers, you can attack from where you want by moving that thing. Best angle is usually 90° broadside. If he is turning, try it from slightly behind him.

[rnat]

Paraphrasing your argumentation:

"It can not possibly work and even if it did it'd have no effect at all,

so the reason i don't have success is definitely because it's impossible and not because of me"

 

I agree with you that t4-5 cvs have been pretty much ruined (in fun-factor and compared to their previous capabilities)

but that does not mean that the advice from everyone else here is not helpful.

[Estaca_de_Bares]

12 minutes ago, Commander_Duke said:

You can't change the direction of your autodrops. Hence why they're called... "Autodrops"? 

 

The only thing you can do is go on either side of the ship, then the enemy can still evade them. 

You actually can: look at the icon/arrow signalling the point of final approach, then click and drag it for a better alignment. It works for both TPBs and SDBs.

 

Salute.

 

P.S.: Commander_Cornflakes was faster in the reply and added images, which are a better explanation.

[Commander_Duke]

5 minutes ago, rnat said:

Paraphrasing your argumentation:

"It can not possibly work and even if it did it'd have no effect at all,

so the reason i don't have success is definitely because it's impossible and not because of me"

 

I agree with you that t4-5 cvs have been pretty much ruined (in fun-factor and compared to their previous capabilities)

but that does not mean that the advice from everyone else here is not helpful.

I never said the advice here isn't helpful, I'm just saying aircraft carriers have been ruined for lower tiers ^_^ Calm down buddy, no need to pick a fight

 

6 minutes ago, Commander_Cornflakes said:

Alright, I'll teach you:

You see that thing in the red circle? You can move it with your mouse on the dashed line to change the direction from where your planes attack.

The result can look like this, where your bombers come from a bad angle but still drop so that the ship is perfectly in the drop circle.

 

The same for torpedobombers, you can attack from where you want by moving that thing. Best angle is usually 90° broadside. If he is turning, try it from slightly behind him.

 

Thanks, I'll try this now. I'm fairly cerain torpedo strikes for lower tiers are completely automated.

A click and attack-type system.

[juanxmar]

2 minutes ago, Commander_Duke said:

I never said the advice here isn't helpful, I'm just saying aircraft carriers have been ruined for lower tiers ^_^ Calm down buddy, no need to pick a fight

 

 

Thanks, I'll try this now. I'm fairly cerain torpedo strikes for lower tiers are completely automated.

A click and attack-type system.

 

You can do that on all attacks, that the ships AA will nuke your planes while they loiter about is not an issue...

[Commander_Duke]

Just now, juanxmar said:

 

You can do that on all attacks, that the ships AA will nuke your planes while they loiter about is not an issue...

Apparently not, it's not letting me select attack route in game etc or angle.

 

Is there a certain key I need to press?

[rnat]

Sry for being a little over the top, but that's how i read it (prolly just your frustration speaking, so my bad on that)

The drop is mostly automated, the approach-angle is the only thing you can change yourself after setting the target.

[Commander_Duke]

3 minutes ago, rnat said:

Sry for being a little over the top, but that's how i read it (prolly just your frustration speaking, so my bad on that)

The drop is mostly automated, the approach-angle is the only thing you can change yourself after setting the target.

There is nothing you can change, there's no key im pressing that allows me to change anything. 

 

You can only click to attack a ship, NPC does all the rest.

[juanxmar]

2 minutes ago, Commander_Duke said:

Apparently not, it's not letting me select attack route in game etc or angle.

 

Is there a certain key I need to press?

 

As shown in the images above, click the marker on the big circle and drag it around, should move the drop vector, it will still follow the ships vector tho, hence, planes nuked while they turn, I mean, its my tactic, make your topr bombers turn untill theres 1 left, then avoid the fish...

[rnat]

After you set the attack you need to click-and-drag that approach-arrow to change the direction.

[Commander_Duke]

4 minutes ago, juanxmar said:

 

As shown in the images above, click the marker on the big circle and drag it around, should move the drop vector, it will still follow the ships vector tho, hence, planes nuked while they turn, I mean, its my tactic, make your topr bombers turn untill theres 1 left, then avoid the fish...

 

4 minutes ago, rnat said:

After you set the attack you need to click-and-drag that approach-arrow to change the direction.

Okay, thanks ^^ will try now

Can you do it for torps? Or only bombers? (tier IV)

 

[rnat]

Just now, Commander_Duke said:

 

Okay, thanks ^^ will try now

Can you do it for torps? Or only bombers? (tier IV)

 

Both

[jss78]

Yup, you can adjust the attack direction of torpedoes as well.

 

It's worthwhile to do some forward thinking, so that you approach the ship from a direction from where you want to drop the torps. That way the planes can drop the torps as soon as they arrive at target, instead of flying around into their drop vector.

[rnat]

When you're about to hit tier 6 consider watching this:

It is mainly for IJN cv but a lot of the featured topics are quite universal.

[Commander_Duke]

14 minutes ago, jss78 said:

Yup, you can adjust the attack direction of torpedoes as well.

 

It's worthwhile to do some forward thinking, so that you approach the ship from a direction from where you want to drop the torps. That way the planes can drop the torps as soon as they arrive at target, instead of flying around into their drop vector.

Yeah. 

Still completely useless XD 

2/3 torp planes get shot down before they can reach the battleship, then only one or two torps actually hit the ship aha

Bombers do minuscule damage

[rnat]

250lb diver bombers aren't really for dmg, they are more useful for dot-stacks (use tbs get a flooding to force repair -> get fires with dbs) On the Bogue you'll get 500lb bombs, which do more (and the 1000lb bombs from the lex on can be brutal) The most consistend dmg always comes from tbs, so you had some bad luck to loose that many against 1 target. Either that or you approached a cluster of ships or a Texas (nothing else has much aa at below t6)

 

If you can't stand it i'd recommend going for the IJN cv line, there you'll have 2 tb squads, so you can use cross-drops to guarantee at least some hits against most bbs and cruisers.