question about winrate (and i need something off my mind)

[Minoranis]

hello my name is Mino

 

i am a 46% player who loves playing destroyers and because of the 46% i am for some reason called a noob or worse. I am always doing my best and trying my hardest to win and to improve myself, but this what it is right now. I have very poor eyesight and because of that using things like minimap is somewhat impossible (it is that bad) so i die often. Lately i have seen increasing amounts of whining and crying about noob teams and bad players who need to uninstall or just hang themselves., in some cases it is also towards me and although i can laugh it off in that it are just some pathetic keyboard heroes it hurts a bit every time, i am a person who plays because i like the ships (mostly destroyers) and not to be a godlike player with a 100% winrate. I often wonder what the importance is of winrate and why it is such a big issue, mostly in battles i see players raging against each other that everyone is just playing crap. I think everyone who does that needs to realize that low winrate players are not completely brainless and are just doing what they can. For me the poison of this type of playerbase has made it so that i want play other games also on account of being made unwelcome for now and i needed his to be off my mind and spoken out loud.

 

my question is is that i want to know if most players can realize that not everyone can be as good as they are and that there are a lot of casual players. Also is winrate THAT important? i want to know the opinion on this.

 

have a good day :)

[ColonelPete]

Not everyone can be good, but one should not be bad. 50% is average.

 

Increase the size of the minimap as far as possible and maybe think about getting better glasses

[lameoll]

i think there is a minimap mod somewhere that increases the size. 

[bouncer8409]

Online nastiness and hatred should be called what it is. IT IS BULLYING pure and simple. The online bullies who hide behind the anonymity of the web are simply cowards and are below your contempt. Dont let them put you off playing a GAME for fun, they are sad small minded simpletons who are in need of being hit with the reality stick. I too have a paltry 50% winrate and i do not care in the slightest. This is a GAME and i try hard to treat it as such, i play for fun and do not care in any way what anyone else thinks. I always try my best to help the team and if thats not enough then sod em all. Send me an invite anytime in game and i will join you for a bit of fun. Keep smiling and keep having fun.

[Smudge014]

hi mate don't let them get you down send me a message anytime ill div up with u

 

[bouncer8409]

Also, winrate means nothing to me. In my opinion far too many players put way too much into winrate and many take the whole game too seriously.

[anonym_yHbO7kUt9ZH4]

Right, now my previously created thread about MM ect. suddenly feels really unimportant and i'm even feeling a bit ashamed. 

I'm thankfull for your honesty, and also feel sorry for you. I do rant occasionally in chat too, guess my fault is that i somehow keep expecting people understanding certain situations like i do. I don't think people mean it in the way they say it, it's more because of frustration that needs harsh language for the ones typing those messages. There are probably people that somehow mean it if they say such things, but i think those are just a few. The thing that hit me most was your description of your physical condition, and what you said about it hurts a bit every time. Never thought of it that way, and now i really, really wish i would have. Thank you for being honest, and for showing me the true results of what people (I) type in chat. WR isn't that important, people just want to be better then others to feel better about themselves. It's kind of selfish come to think about it. 

I'm not sure, but i think there is an option to turn off battlechat, maybe that can let you enjoy the game without being hurt by people.

 

I do wish you all the best, and hope you can still have fun with the game.

[aboomination]

27 minutes ago, Minoranis said:

my question is is that i want to know if most players can realize that not everyone can be as good as they are and that there are a lot of casual players.

It comes to my mind on occasion 

[Aotearas]

21 minutes ago, Minoranis said:

 

 

my question is is that i want to know if most players can realize that not everyone can be as good as they are and that there are a lot of casual players. Also is winrate THAT important? i want to know the opinion on this.

 

Dunning-Kruger effect goes both ways.

Just as some people are so bad they incapable of realizing how bad they are, some people are simply so good that they can't understand how people can not do stuff they find to be easy.

 

That said, many people who start whining ingame are just salty rather than genuinely inable to comprehend how other players are simply not as good as them. And those people will still b*tch at you regardless of what stats you have. Hell, I've had a guy statbashing me and how it's obvious how I have no idea what I'm talking about and how it shows in my stats ... that was funny and I reckon it's not hard to see why I was in stitches laughing at that guy!

 

Easiest way to reduce the number of n00b accusations is to get better. If having trouble seeing the minimap is an issue for you, press the + key a couple times to enlarge your minimap until it's at a more comfortable size. Not many people know you can do that. Also CTRL and left click with your mouse on the gears symbol right next to the minimap where you can toggle additional informations to be displayed. Absolutely do enable last known positions!!! The value of that information can't be understated, how that isn't in fact shown by default is a myth to me and just another point on the WG done screwed-up list.

[Minoranis]

Hello thanks for all the kind replies :) i am suprised by the kindness. i will look for a mod to increase the size of the minimap. better glasses are not going to work since the problem is with my eye nerves that are not working properly.

[aboomination]

5 minutes ago, Minoranis said:

Hello thanks for all the kind replies :) i am suprised by the kindness. i will look for a mod to increase the size of the minimap. better glasses are not going to work since the problem is with my eye nerves that are not working properly.

Idk if I'm missing something, but pressing "+" by default usually does the trick (i.e. it enlarges the mini map).

And well...your condition sure as eff is a disadvantage but still, you will continue to miss things and people will continue to get upset at times.

[Butterdoll]

23 minutes ago, Minoranis said:

hello my name is Mino

 

i am a 46% player who loves playing destroyers and because of the 46% i am for some reason called a noob or worse. I am always doing my best and trying my hardest to win and to improve myself, but this what it is right now. I have very poor eyesight and because of that using things like minimap is somewhat impossible (it is that bad) so i die often. Lately i have seen increasing amounts of whining and crying about noob teams and bad players who need to uninstall or just hang themselves., in some cases it is also towards me and although i can laugh it off in that it are just some pathetic keyboard heroes it hurts a bit every time, i am a person who plays because i like the ships (mostly destroyers) and not to be a godlike player with a 100% winrate. I often wonder what the importance is of winrate and why it is such a big issue, mostly in battles i see players raging against each other that everyone is just playing crap. I think everyone who does that needs to realize that low winrate players are not completely brainless and are just doing what they can. For me the poison of this type of playerbase has made it so that i want play other games also on account of being made unwelcome for now and i needed his to be off my mind and spoken out loud.

 

my question is is that i want to know if most players can realize that not everyone can be as good as they are and that there are a lot of casual players. Also is winrate THAT important? i want to know the opinion on this.

 

have a good day :)

 

Hi Mino.

 

first of all, being at the tip of the sword it's very difficult , being a 46% dd player it's equivalent to a higher percentage in other classes . (yes, a dd have to be good for the team to be successful, so the cvs, so bbs and also cruisers, and for some players all the team have to be good but themselves, ahahahahah).

 

Yes, you play dds, but that kind of remarks  should slip on the armour of your indifference. If they are so good why they are in a something ship and not in a dd?

Do you support your team?

Do you contest capping zones, cap zones, do you provide your team with spotting? If yes, stuff them.

 

Man, my last dd battle was in straight map, I went to cap A, my team left me alone, they went to b, I manage to sink 1 ship and land a couple of torpedoes before I was sunk, no support. 0, nada,

 

winrate it's not important, damage that you deal it's more important.

 

[Butterdoll]

14 minutes ago, Minoranis said:

Hello thanks for all the kind replies :) i am suprised by the kindness. i will look for a mod to increase the size of the minimap. better glasses are not going to work since the problem is with my eye nerves that are not working properly.

 

 

Don't you worry, they are players that see perfectly and they are way worst than you.

 

12 minutes ago, aboomination said:

Idk if I'm missing something, but pressing "+" by default usually does the trick (i.e. it enlarges the mini map).

And well...your condition sure as eff is a disadvantage but still, you will continue to miss things and people will continue to get upset at times.

 

No.

Just keep playing the game you like and stuff the rest.

 

[aboomination]

1 minute ago, Butterdoll said:

Just keep playing the game you like and stuff the rest.

Mind your own business, your reply was uncalled for.

[Butterdoll]

1 minute ago, aboomination said:

Mind your own business, your reply was uncalled for.

 

You misunderstood me.

 

What I meant was people will continue to be upset but stuff them.

Or you stop doing a thing that you like because other people get upset? (we are talking of a game, came on).

[aboomination]

5 minutes ago, Butterdoll said:

Or you stop doing a thing that you like because other people get upset?

Nah, I keep playing my Belfast.

[Dams_77]

I customize my own minimap with some mods from the great pack of Aslain

 

It allows larger size with + /-, bigger ships name and a lot of other things. Vanilla minimap is terrible

 

[Butterdoll]

Just now, aboomination said:

Nah, I keep playing my Belfast.

 

There you go.

I do the same, so everybody else.

 

I think this guy just  let this get to him, because he's good, perhaps a very good player with "bad luck".

But let me tell you, I rather have him on my team that many, many other players.

 

[aboomination]

@Minoranis Teams are like girls 

[Kreskent]

46% winrate implies that you are actively doing something wrong, which leads to your team losing. Some players can see this and will comment on it, since no one likes losing. However toxic behavior isn't going to help anyone improve.

[Aotearas]

9 minutes ago, Butterdoll said:

 

But let me tell you, I rather have him on my team that many, many other players.

 

 

Yep.

 

Even with below 50% winrate (which is an indicator about skill of course, just not as all-telling as some people believe it is), the simple fact that he's evidently reading the ingame chat makes him much more useful to have as an ally than the myriad of nubcakes that won't even read the chat. I'd wager chances are good that I could get at least a bit of teamwork from the OP if I asked for it in chat and even a single helpful smoke is worth so much more than the help I get from most other random bobs.

 

Besides, anyone with a clear enough presence of mind and selfreflection to know and admit they're not playing too well already has the correct mindset to improve and typically some drive to try to when given the chance or incentive.

 

Many alleged n00bs can bloom up rather nicely with just a bit of tutoring if they have the proper mindset.

[aboomination]

12 minutes ago, Dams_77 said:

I customize my own minimap with some mods from the great pack of Aslain

 

It allows larger size with + /-, bigger ships name and a lot of other things. Vanilla minimap is terrible

I don't have any mods installed and +/- works for me 

[Skyllon]

1 hour ago, Minoranis said:

hello my name is Mino

 

i am a 46% player who loves playing destroyers and because of the 46% i am for some reason called a noob or worse. I am always doing my best and trying my hardest to win and to improve myself, but this what it is right now. I have very poor eyesight and because of that using things like minimap is somewhat impossible (it is that bad) so i die often. Lately i have seen increasing amounts of whining and crying about noob teams and bad players who need to uninstall or just hang themselves., in some cases it is also towards me and although i can laugh it off in that it are just some pathetic keyboard heroes it hurts a bit every time, i am a person who plays because i like the ships (mostly destroyers) and not to be a godlike player with a 100% winrate. I often wonder what the importance is of winrate and why it is such a big issue, mostly in battles i see players raging against each other that everyone is just playing crap. I think everyone who does that needs to realize that low winrate players are not completely brainless and are just doing what they can. For me the poison of this type of playerbase has made it so that i want play other games also on account of being made unwelcome for now and i needed his to be off my mind and spoken out loud.

 

my question is is that i want to know if most players can realize that not everyone can be as good as they are and that there are a lot of casual players. Also is winrate THAT important? i want to know the opinion on this.

 

have a good day :)

 

Well anonymity and douchery go along since the very beginning. If people bring your stats up - hide it. You can also get rid of chat if you can't resist reading it. And that's it - enjoy the game in peace.

 

[Dams_77]

11 minutes ago, aboomination said:

I don't have any mods installed and +/- works for me 

 

The mod(s) allow larger sizes than vanilla, with the same shortcuts indeed ;)

[Kreskent]

5 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

 I'd wager chances are good that I could get at least a bit of teamwork from the OP if I asked for it in chat and even a single helpful smoke is worth so much more than the help I get from most other random bobs.

+1. Nothing is more frustrating than having your top tiers sailing away without a care in the world, while you desperately spam the chat and beg them to turn around.

 

Case and point: