PseudoMi Players 607 posts 7,274 battles Report post #1 Posted September 18, 2017 Missouri was implemented in a time when special flags and camos for boosting freePex did not exist nor the frequent opportunities to get them for free. Right now it is way easier to accumulate freePex, there are here users who farmed their Nelson (1/2 Missouri price) from zero over last weekend. Missouri being not only a T9 OP premium ship but the key for credit independence in the whole game ("buy a Missouri, get all the silver ships in the game for free"), I would say it is hard discounted by WG right now. Considering its strategic impact, I would value it at least at double the today's price. Are you not surprised like me about WG keeping its initial price ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2 Posted September 18, 2017 No. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #3 Posted September 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, PseudoMi said: Are you not surprised like me about WG keeping its [Missouri's] initial price ? No. To give just one reason: Because of the epic payload of refund requests, that would come in from most of those who bought her for the higher xp price. Or wouldn't you think so? Edited: All right, what I probably should have written: Because of the epic amount of grief from those who didn't buy her before the price was raised. Brain not get nuff coffee, today... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #4 Posted September 18, 2017 Indeed: no. This weekend was special because of the 200% bonus. I invested heavily on captain xp grind and got 20 to 30 k results with relevant flags and cammo's. Could have done the same for free XP but chose not to. I managed Missouri in a couple of months. Didn't rush to get it. I think the price is on par. Same like Nelson. Just play and steadily grind and we all can achieve it. Also I think the "OP" thought about Missouri is a state of mind. That radar? It has helped me in what? 3 or 4 times? At the most. If I would be able to swap it for a spotterplane I think I'd do it in an eyeblink. Yes it's a great silver earner but does that make it OP? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONI] MoveZig Players 1,622 posts 20,823 battles Report post #5 Posted September 18, 2017 Mate, the thing costs 100+ bucks in doubloons. It already costs more than the super-duper ultimate collector's edition of a AAA game that you'll actually get to keep indefinitely, as opposed to a ''microtransaction'' in an online game. And in order to even get more than 10 of each of those signals from the current event, you had to already have put hundreds of hours into the game (you got 10 for each 1000 battles). So let's put things into perspective here. It's a great earner but it requires either ungodly grinding or 110 euros. It's not cheap. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PUPSI] Klopirat Freibeuter 15,160 posts Report post #6 Posted September 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Procrastes said: Because of the epic payload of refund requests, that would come in from most of those who bought her for the higher xp price. why should those people request a refund if the price for the Mo gets higher? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #7 Posted September 18, 2017 OP: No but she shouldn't have radar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #8 Posted September 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Klopirat said: why should those people request a refund if the price for the Mo gets higher? Indeed, Sir, you are quite correct. I have now amended my post. Thanks for the help! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDDQD] RAYvenMP Players 816 posts 17,290 battles Report post #9 Posted September 18, 2017 WG wont change the prize of the MO, that would be big slap for those who grind for it and price would suddenly change. The fact is WG will rather remove ships than change the rules (Kamikaze, Gremy, Nikolai etc) speak for itself. MO is Iowa with radar. While having radar is great, every average player can see it coming from miles away. If some smoke camper is not paying attention and gets radar-ed by BB, he is doing it wrong. BB radar can have some impact, but its very rare - yes, you can yolo charge the cap at the start to get that nasty DD and succeed or not, but most likely you will die in both cases. And then there are these special grin worthy moments when Minotaur/Neptune rush in and smoke 7km in front of you, nice times :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerTerro Players 285 posts 3,249 battles Report post #10 Posted September 18, 2017 No. Why would u want to increase Free XP price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #11 Posted September 18, 2017 Well, no. Just because you bought a premium ship which allows you to make credits faster doesn't mean your line ships should get more expensive, does it? Same for free xp. 750k still takes a long time Also on that "Nelson in one weekend" - yeah, right. I'll assume by weekend you mean 3 days. Lets assume you played for 24 hours each day, so a total of 72 hours played nonstop. That would mean you needed average of 5208 fxp per hour, and assuming average of 3 games in hour you'd need to score average of 1736 fxp per game. And that's when you play 72 hours nonstop. Yeah, no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GW_KR] nooberg Players 227 posts 25,886 battles Report post #12 Posted September 18, 2017 [edited] mode ON { Because random scrubs should hot have the awesome ship I have ! This makes me less of a man. } Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #13 Posted September 18, 2017 I'd rather they balance her than making her more exclusive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #14 Posted September 18, 2017 No! Besides Missouri isn't all that fun to play. I've barely played mine... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GW_KR] nooberg Players 227 posts 25,886 battles Report post #15 Posted September 18, 2017 Thinking about It, I should probably buy it right away, before WG does something...questionable. I'm sitting at almost 1 mil free XP waiting for them to release something other that a BB, but nooooo. WG loves BB's so we got another one - Nelson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PseudoMi Players 607 posts 7,274 battles Report post #16 Posted September 18, 2017 1 hour ago, MoveZig said: Mate, the thing costs 100+ bucks in doubloons. [...] So let's put things into perspective here. It's a great earner but it requires either ungodly grinding or 110 euros. It's not cheap. 750 000 freePex at 1:35 conversion is 21 430 doubloons * 21 430 doubloons bought at ~450 doubloons/€ is 48€ ** 48€ is the price for having zero freePex and still wanting to get the Missouri. Meanwhile freePex accumulates spontaneously while playing, quickly multiplies with camos and flags and random fall in containers too - 50 000 freePex containers are not rare. Thus you can buy only the difference or nothing if you farm enough. * Of course 1:35, since the beginning of the year we had this once every five or six weeks. ** You buy doubloons only in the hardest discounted packs with ships (-40/50%) with the ship not discounted ingame. It also happens regularly. Missouri is the hen with golden eggs that WG curiously and unbelievably hard discount. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #17 Posted September 18, 2017 40 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said: Also on that "Nelson in one weekend" - yeah, right. I'll assume by weekend you mean 3 days. Lets assume you played for 24 hours each day, so a total of 72 hours played nonstop. That would mean you needed average of 5208 fxp per hour, and assuming average of 3 games in hour you'd need to score average of 1736 fxp per game. And that's when you play 72 hours nonstop. Yeah, no. You should read up how freeXP allows stacking special flags and xp bonuses/missions. Got 15k freeXP from a single games by doing that. FreeXP is multiplied by the whole XP earned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #18 Posted September 18, 2017 Off course they should, and all current owners will only be able to play said ship again when they have the difference in free XP to unlock the ship again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #19 Posted September 18, 2017 1 minute ago, nooberg said: Thinking about It, I should probably buy it right away, before WG does something...questionable. I'm sitting at almost 1 mil free XP waiting for them to release something other that a BB, but nooooo. WG loves BB's so we got another one - Nelson. I spent about a million free xp a month ago, to promote my Tirpitz captain, Karl Fertig, to Grossadmiral. He's serving on the Scharnhorst, the Graf Spee, the Emden and the Prinz Eugen as well, and I plan to put him on the Bismarck once I unlock her, so he is more than worthy of his new estate, if you ask me. Now he's busy churning out Elite xp like there is no tomorrow, to help his colleagues' careers along. Such a nice guy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #20 Posted September 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, PseudoMi said: 750 000 freePex at 1:35 conversion is 21 430 golds. * 21 430 golds bought at ~450 gold/€ is 48€ ** 48€ is the price for having zero freePex and still wanting to get the Missouri. Meanwhile freePex accumulates spontaneously while playing, quickly multiplies with camos and flags and random fall in containers too - 50 000 freePex containers are not rare. Thus you can buy only the difference or nothing if you farm enough. Doesnt matter if u can get it by only playing. If u would buy it with normal money, its expensive enough compared to the other Premium ships. Lets say someone would wants to buy a premium ship and he could buy a Tirpitz or get the Missouri. And the missouri would be twice as expensive than the Tirpitz. Doesnt make any sense? And 50k freexp containers arent rare ?! wtf are u smoking? I havent had one so far, alltho i think im fairly lucky with Supercontainers. Sure i agree with the special flags and stuff and +200% first winxp u can get easily thousands of freexp in one battle. But without flags u do like what, 50-100 freexp i think? Im not familiar with the shop, but u can buy those special flags? If not, than there is no way to get a steady amount of them. (Then again why would u buy them if u could convest Freexp with money directly )I was lucky enough to get 2x100 Hydras from SCs, but they aint Ouroboros (?). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TS1] Runegrem Players 658 posts 8,162 battles Report post #21 Posted September 18, 2017 OP, If the price of the Missouri would get raised, would you be willing to pay that free xp right now or lose your Missouri if you can't? Since you've already got it and you want it to be more expensive if makes me very suspicious of your true motive for this thread. They should, however, remove the radar from the ship. That's just stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,366 battles Report post #22 Posted September 18, 2017 he is just setting double standards... He thinks it is unfair that he can not get a Steven Seagall commander. should be for everyone.... Now he want to restrict access to Missouri for others 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ulysses_nemo Players 502 posts 14,453 battles Report post #23 Posted September 18, 2017 No. 750k free XP is already absolutely huge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,366 battles Report post #24 Posted September 18, 2017 Agree it is out of reach for most players not paying for the free xp convert. I earned my example purely by playing didn't convert a single € into free XP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NED] piet11111 Players 2,225 posts 8,827 battles Report post #25 Posted September 18, 2017 If they raise the price then they should at least increase it 10X i already can taste the salt of those who cant afford the 10 silver. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites