anonym_TQ8ps82zijmU Players 22 posts Report post #1 Posted September 4, 2017 the D's and all fast attack ships have inaccurate gameplay. When a D travel at hight speed is detected from ...the moon!! (in a clear day with calm sea). So they approach the enemy with 15kn or less, in that speed are practical invisible, and after the salvo they retreat full speed, with smoke and everything. In rough sea you can try 18-23kn (depend on ship) and stay undetected. In pro radar era the night and the fog were the friends of D's captain and the fear of BB's (that is why the german fleet escape in Jutland). In open water, in a clear day an attack to BB is suicidal: the secondary guns they dispatch you in a minute. And the islands. what is the meaning of the island if they can see you behind it? In any distance you can't see behind a hight island. I was once sailor in a Greek missile boat. I know that so radical change is not going to happens but I make the statement just for the reality. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #2 Posted September 4, 2017 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #3 Posted September 4, 2017 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] YukiEiriKun [POP] Beta Tester 1,500 posts 5,749 battles Report post #4 Posted September 4, 2017 Who is this "D"? o_O You mean DD's? Destroyers? Perhaps you just need more training? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] AgarwaenME Beta Tester 4,811 posts 13,808 battles Report post #5 Posted September 4, 2017 I guess he has issues with the D. Clearly he wants to see a lot of Ds, but people hide all their Ds. The Ds are just too quick for him to catch any 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LastButterfly Beta Tester 5,519 posts 2,939 battles Report post #6 Posted September 4, 2017 3 hours ago, aeinautis said: I was once sailor in a Greek missile boat. I love this little line yelling "stfu I know what i'm talking about". Because CLEARLY this game is about greek missile boats. In any case, if you're looking for a historical game then I suggest you uninstall right away, because you're totally at the wrong place. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #7 Posted September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, AgarwaenME said: I guess he has issues with the D. Clearly he wants to see a lot of Ds, but people hide all their Ds. The Ds are just too quick for him to catch any Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #8 Posted September 4, 2017 2 hours ago, AgarwaenME said: I guess he has issues with the D. Clearly he wants to see a lot of Ds, but people hide all their Ds. The Ds are just too quick for him to catch any Wait, there are people who have no issue with the D? The D is the first thing on my mind waking up, wondering how I'll deal with the D on that day, and the next, and the day after that one. The prospects of constantly having to deal with the D is taxing, I can feel my youth slipping away with each night I lay awake worrying about the D. Maybe we should get rid of the D all together, just as health care precaution? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] Hentai__Senpai Beta Tester 178 posts 5,925 battles Report post #9 Posted September 4, 2017 I welcome OP to this forum, can this be the new breeding of @SkybuckFlying? Otherwise OP if you haven't figured it out yet, this game isn't made to be historically accurate. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Sigimundus Weekend Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 6,566 posts 16,015 battles Report post #10 Posted September 4, 2017 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #11 Posted September 4, 2017 As many before me, I have absolutley no idea what ship(class) you are talking about. Can you please clarify? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #12 Posted September 4, 2017 Welcome to the forums - yeah, it's a game for the masses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,195 battles Report post #13 Posted September 4, 2017 It is good to take some D in daily basis, specially in winter, when we can't get much D from the sun. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #14 Posted September 4, 2017 And at that time, BBs were slow, glorified AA barges who were often kept away from conflict unless absolutely necessary. In fact, the only Historically accurate ship class in the game are cruisers, which like ingame, had a very low life expectancy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] AgarwaenME Beta Tester 4,811 posts 13,808 battles Report post #15 Posted September 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Kenliero said: It is good to take some D in daily basis, specially in winter, when we can't get much D from the sun. That's what I keep telling her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[95TH] Temujin27 Players 40 posts 9,457 battles Report post #16 Posted September 4, 2017 Back off him, as he says " i make the state(ment) just for the reality." I think the OP is simply saying that in real world (he is not asking for the game to change), a DD travelling at 30+ knts makes such a hugh bow wave and wake that it would give its presence away. See this ... so in reality they would approach slower in clear weather / flat seas to maintain their stealth (all pre radar). That is all.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #17 Posted September 4, 2017 Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Of course, a DD at full speed should be visible from longer distance (hence escaping behind a smokescreen after a torpedo run). Would be nice if some such mechanic could be introduced but Nah. WG is struggling even with the basics so I'm afraid such things would be way too advanced to contemplate. Maybe in some VERY VERY distant future? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #18 Posted September 4, 2017 Yeah because babies need more diapers How about we only change the broken stuff instead of adding more broken stuff into it? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[95TH] Temujin27 Players 40 posts 9,457 battles Report post #19 Posted September 4, 2017 Dont think anyone actual asked for a change, it would break the balance. But its good food for thought. i never considered it before, but now i think of it whenever i fly on hols or work over a shipping lane (eg often cross English Chanel), its NOT the ship i see first, its thier wake ! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #20 Posted September 4, 2017 Woot?! mtm78 You mean like fixing the basic gameplay and balance BEFORE adding something like Graf Zeppelin? HERETIC! Who does that? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_TQ8ps82zijmU Players 22 posts Report post #21 Posted September 4, 2017 5 hours ago, AgarwaenME said: I guess he has issues with the D. Clearly he wants to see a lot of Ds, but people hide all their Ds. The Ds are just too quick for him to catch any I like DD's. And you are right I need more (much more!!!) training... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_TQ8ps82zijmU Players 22 posts Report post #22 Posted September 4, 2017 2 hours ago, 159Hunter said: As many before me, I have absolutley no idea what ship(class) you are talking about. Can you please clarify? I speak about Destroyers. DD is a USN category, in the other countries are simply Destroyers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJ_Die Players 930 posts 9,329 battles Report post #23 Posted September 4, 2017 Actually USN also uses the term destroyer :) But most countries dont use D as an acronym for destroyers. Germans use Z but this isnt the German section is it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_TQ8ps82zijmU Players 22 posts Report post #24 Posted September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Temujin27 said: Back off him, as he says " i make the state(ment) just for the reality." I think the OP is simply saying that in real world (he is not asking for the game to change), a DD travelling at 30+ knts makes such a hugh bow wave and wake that it would give its presence away. See this ... so in reality they would approach slower in clear weather / flat seas to maintain their stealth (all pre radar). That is all.... thanks for the stateMENT. I change it. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_TQ8ps82zijmU Players 22 posts Report post #25 Posted September 4, 2017 thank you for reading and for your time to make a comment. thank you for accepting my English... to reach a target with fast attack ships (is the modern equal for Destroyers: the modern DD's are cruisers in fact) is an agonizing process: if they see you and hit you the surviving probability is 5 of 45. If you have your 60km to make a salvo you became hero even if you don't survive the hunting, after the kill. It is like submarine with less probability of survive. Yes it's a game. But with this graphic, the sound etc you think that you live in that era. Once just sent a thought to the men who fight those ships in real battle. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites