HMS King George V

[WhiteCliffs]

Hi folks, what are the early impressions of this thing from you lot?

I've taken it out about 20 times now and I'm really struggling to make it work. My average damage is hovering around the mid-70k mark but the thing is so damn fragile against high caliber guns I struggle to exert any real presence in a battle. Angled in Hood you'll occasionally take a 10k hit on the nose but anything to the sides glances off, angled in KGV I'm consistently being hit for 5-8k just from a couple of pens hitting the massive 25mm bow and stern areas, or the line of 25mm above the belt. Against US 16" guns I've taken 17k hits through the bow and stern on two occasions, whilst angled. Focused by a few BBs you can be dead inside of 2 minutes flat.

If left alone the damage output can be very high but that rarely happens, and skulking around at 18km isn't fun for anyone. It seems what we've been given here is a glass BBQ.

[cracktrackflak]

Mine has seen 100% bottom tier so far.

 

Like the other British BBs, it feels like a cruiser thats been re-skinned as a battleship...

[WhiteCliffs]

Just now, cracktrackflak said:

Mine has seen 100% bottom tier so far.

 

Like the other British BBs, it feels like a cruiser thats been re-skinned as a battleship...

To be fair I found Queen Elizabeth to be a far more enjoyable and usable ship because it feels like a balanced BB. KGV on the other hand definitely feels like a sluggish re-skinned cruiser, one that totally lacks maneuverability.

Had a couple of duels in it with Colorado's and it just feels cheap trying to burn them down while they take chunks out of you with AP you can't really angle against. All in what was supposedly the second best armoured BB of the Second World War, after Yamato & Musashi.

This idea that concealment makes up for armour is bonkers. While you're there healing up in hiding having lost a hp trade you're having 0 impact on the game.

[Jethro_Grey]

Well, i made the decision to not skip the previous tea boats in the line, so i can't really comment on that. ^^

[shockinhockin]

I must be playing a different ship to you guys. Because I've had nothing but success in this ship even when its stock. 

 

Yes I agree the 25mm armour thing on a KGV is a damn joke. But honestly with the repair and such it's not really holding me back at all. I've had 2 karakens in it already and probably played I don't know 10 to 15 games so far. 

 

Very nice ship indeed 

 

 

[WhiteCliffs]

3 minutes ago, shockinhockin said:

I must be playing a different ship to you guys. Because I've had nothing but success in this ship even when its stock. 

 

Looking at our stats I'm close to you on average and max damage done but you're miles ahead on win/loss. Please spill the beans! How does one win in this thing?

[RamirezKurita]

38 minutes ago, WhiteCliffs said:

 

Looking at our stats I'm close to you on average and max damage done but you're miles ahead on win/loss. Please spill the beans! How does one win in this thing?

 

Without looking at videos or seeing more in depth stats, I can't say for sure, but damage generally is a measure of how much time you spend wailing on battleships due to their large health pools (plus repair party, particularly when firing HE). If someone has a good win rate and average damage, it could be any combination of them scouting, destroying DDs, sweeping the skies and capping points.

[WhiteCliffs]

4 minutes ago, RamirezKurita said:

 

Without looking at videos or seeing more in depth stats, I can't say for sure, but damage generally is a measure of how much time you spend wailing on battleships due to their large health pools (plus repair party, particularly when firing HE). If someone has a good win rate and average damage, it could be any combination of them scouting, destroying DDs, sweeping the skies and capping points.

Agree with what you say. I can win games in BBs, just not this one. As I originally said I'm struggling to exert any real presence in a battle without being deleted.

[RamirezKurita]

1 minute ago, WhiteCliffs said:

Agree with what you say. I can win games in BBs, just not this one. As I originally said I'm struggling to exert any real presence in a battle without being deleted.

 

You say "without being deleted", but you have much higher rates of survival in the KGVs than the QEs. This might mean that it might be related to capping, scouting and killing off DDs if you are playing too cautiously. A dead BB that deals significant damage to the vulnerable members of the enemy team is more likely to be a winning BB.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

Is it just me or does the front A turret have a turning bug where it can turn 360 through B?

[OVanBruce]

I'm really not liking her much, she eats too much damage from anything, her guns aren't punchy enough and the health potion is not enough to mitigate all the damage she takes. You can't carry with a battleship if you can't tank and your damage output isn't as high as other BBs. The whole HE/AP duality makes it a very frustrating ship to play too because the oportunities you get for punishing cruisers are utterly wasted if you shoot HE at then and you can't deal damage to angled BBs  with AP unless at long range (plunging fire) because your gun calliber doesn't overmatch the enemy BBs bows, even some cruisers can bowtank your AP shells.

 

PD: Then again, I suck at playing battleships.

[GhostRiderMax123]

While I do like the KGV I'm starting to have my doubts about it. but to be honest it is still early days yet with the tree.

 

That said I'm not a fan of QE. she can certainly hit hard but I hate the turrets so so much. wouldn't mind seeing the turret rotation buffed to be in line with Warspite but eh again its still early days.

 

Oh and the Orion needs a nerf

[Ferry_25]

don't have it as well. Tried some matches in Aluminum Foil Duke. As expected the hype is raging on. Having to wait in queue long and lots of people who find it hilarious to ruin my game by completely focusing me (and other RN BB's) while I figure it out. Also don't want to get too able yet because it'll be merged again anyway.

[Tugnut]

9 Games 9 wins ave damage79k

[RUSSIANBlAS]

I sold out and Free XP skipped 50% of Iron Duke grind. It's a nice ship and all but I like my BBs fast.

 

Skipped QE as it looks like a weak Warspite!

 

Only played 2 KGV games but it'l rise by the time I check here again. Comfortable turrets and speed for a start. The guns are a little strange but you're reloading in 25s and can really slap that down further with AR.

 

From WG's blurb KGV is the start of the RN BB shift in ethos (well WG's in game design ethos that is), less well armoured than previous BB but now has good detection (12.2km with CE and camo). Feels like she's intended to be used as a mid range opportunist. 

 

Also, I took a HUGE citadel from a Nelson in one game whilst heavily angled and a lot of my own 14" were bouncing off her 

[Darth_Glorious]

14 inches APs shells are fine (even in tier 9 battle) :

Spoiler

 

 

 

[creamgravy]

Well, I recorded my highest BB damage record in a completely stock KGV with tier 9 MM, including 500+ Tirpitz/Bismarck games. 

 

It's a really, really good tier 8 BB.

[aboomination]

It's good when it has a team around it that can be supported. If you lack that team - good luck.

Now you might say - well easy, position yourself accordingly. Well, sometimes (often) that means, abandoning the objectives together with your fellow team mates, giving up the chance to win right from the start.

What I want to say: No carry potential.

[Hawg]

I havent played it yet, although I do own it.  I skipped to conqueror which is not as fragile and is a lot of fun, the first T10 I own I consider fun (other than Zao).   One thing - I took the level 1 talent that shortens the time betwen amo type switches by 50% for the first time ever.  With conqueror you are constantly missing windows to punish people who show you a few seconds of broadside because you're in HE, having this talent allows you to take advantage of those opportunities more often.   That and the ability to disengage with your stealth when you get a bot too agressive, is golden.

[darkstar73]

On 2017-09-02 at 9:48 PM, WhiteCliffs said:

I'm consistently being hit for 5-8k just from a couple of pens hitting the massive 25mm bow and stern areas

It should not be like that. She had "all or nothing" armor. So they made Bow and stern weaker. Thin armor so it would be overpenetrations in those areas. Causing little damage. That is somehow mixed in game. Overpen do very much damage in those areas in game :(

[_VAMPA_]

mine is cursed......14battles 29%WR 44k avrg shame

 

naaah i was just in tooo trollish mood last battle i use AP and only time  and 25++km from nearest runing enemy stops me to call it good sheeep but its stupid BB..... 

will see today now its toped i even may spend few credits to put on him some modules

sierra mike is must to

[ImperialAdmiral]

Horrible win ration but so far I love that ship.

Aprox. one fire per salvo. Many times 7k to even 12k per HE salvo.

Games of 90k-100k are pretty easy to get as long as you aren't focused by everyone (new ship)

Torps do massive damage though.

[shockinhockin]

12 hours ago, WhiteCliffs said:

 

Looking at our stats I'm close to you on average and max damage done but you're miles ahead on win/loss. Please spill the beans! How does one win in this thing?

Umm good question, I think most of my wins where down to my own map positioning and being able to bring the correct ammo type to bare at the right time. 

 

The trick is to not get focused as all that 25mm playing is worthless. But if you can pick fights one on one you can angle your tough belt armour and repair any of the 25mm lol pens. 

 

Has been working well for me so far. That or the RNG gods like me who knows 

 

[creamgravy]

Forget solo win rates over the first weekend of a major BB launch. 

[ClappingLollies]

3 hours ago, _VAMPA_ said:

mine is cursed......14battles 29%WR 44k avrg shame

 

naaah i was just in tooo trollish mood last battle i use AP and only time  and 25++km from nearest runing enemy stops me to call it good sheeep but its stupid BB..... 

will see today now its toped i even may spend few credits to put on him some modules

sierra mike is must to

 

Like my Iowa and Montana WR. It balances out after around 75-100 games tho.