[HAVEN] Kashuken Players 720 posts 8,445 battles Report post #1 Posted August 29, 2017 So i was reading the gamescom questions and this beauty popped up. Quote Q (Mikhail__): What do you think about paid ammunition? It can help with sniping Battleships. A: It's something we were looking into and are still thinking about. However at the moment such a feature would bring nothing in regards to gameplay, except for just being OP. We are not favourable of P2W mechanics and avoid them at all costs. WG actually said it is something we are looking into and STILL thinking about it. I ignore the rest of the quote because it is BS in regards to WOT and in general. Unfuckingbelievable have you looked at WOT recently? have you played WOT recently? Did you see what gold ammo did to the game alone? As a prize for clans it was kinda rare to see but those who are rich enough to just buy gold and spam ammo it may have been few and far between but the option of having a shell which basically ignores armor is [edited]stupid to say the least, what makes it more stupid is that they made it available for credits so those who run premium accounts and have played for years can now spam it at everything in every game making tanks into swiss cheese because armor and angling no longer matter. If they add any kind of ammo which is vastly better than the standard ammo you get and it is available for gold then only a few may bother to use it, if it becomes available for credits then those with 200mil plus will spam it till it blocks out the sun, again it makes armor useless and takes any skill out of the game (argue about HE another time). Is WOWS doing that bad that they possibly may think about adding another broken mechanic into the game just to hook a few whales into spending more money? or do they actually want to kill it off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redgecohones Beta Tester 98 posts 2,268 battles Report post #2 Posted August 29, 2017 No Comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDDQD] Quetak Players 2,099 posts 22,396 battles Report post #3 Posted August 29, 2017 Im still thinking about my future trip to space but.... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #4 Posted August 29, 2017 I'm still thinking about winning that lottery finally... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akula971 Beta Tester 1,059 posts 14,838 battles Report post #5 Posted August 29, 2017 I'm still thinking about the nurses low cut cleavage. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #6 Posted August 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, mtm78 said: I'm still thinking about winning that lottery finally... 6 minutes ago, Quetak said: Im still thinking about my future trip to space but.... Because it's just like WG to just admit that their idea is bad, and not push through with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #7 Posted August 29, 2017 Man, I even read something about subs again... right now I wouldn't be surprised by anything I guess.... waiting for reply to Dropsiq's thread.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #8 Posted August 29, 2017 I wonder, are they thinking about (countermeasures to) sniping battleships or are they thinking about gold ammunition? The statement will have two distinct meanings depending on what the developer is referring to . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #9 Posted August 29, 2017 52 minutes ago, mtm78 said: Man, I even read something about subs again... right now I wouldn't be surprised by anything I guess.... waiting for reply to Dropsiq's thread.... What thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DMOK] Drake847 [DMOK] Players 506 posts 38,443 battles Report post #10 Posted August 29, 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #11 Posted August 29, 2017 57 minutes ago, mtm78 said: Man, I even read something about subs again... right now I wouldn't be surprised by anything I guess.... waiting for reply to Dropsiq's thread.... 4 minutes ago, Capra76 said: What thread? Yeah, what thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #12 Posted August 29, 2017 This subject was discussed here:- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #13 Posted August 29, 2017 No worries, premium ships will be able to resupply those shell types for credits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #14 Posted August 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, Capra76 said: What thread? 8 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said: Yeah, what thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] DreadArchangel Weekend Tester 1,004 posts Report post #15 Posted August 29, 2017 it'll never happen, would cause so much of an uproar from the bb players, cos lets face it, it would only really affect them, since their ships are the most heavily armoured, where as crusier's. dd's and cv's can be quite easily destroyed with bb's main guns without any aid at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #16 Posted August 29, 2017 Premium != more pen. What if premium means better sigma? WG can ruin their games in many ways, just have enough faith 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #17 Posted August 29, 2017 1 minute ago, mtm78 said: Premium != more pen. What if premium means better sigma? Or normalization angles to counter the bow-on meta? My Yamato shouldn't be able to not pen what she hits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGP2W] Namolis Players 751 posts 18,410 battles Report post #18 Posted August 29, 2017 They won't have premium ammo, they will have premium plating (+3mm) instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #19 Posted August 29, 2017 "I don't believe what WG says, expect the things I want to believe." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #20 Posted August 29, 2017 (gold torpedoes)....hah....goodbye...They better not ever implement any sort of gold ammo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #21 Posted August 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, Namolis said: They won't have premium ammo, they will have premium plating (+3mm) instead. Cruiser buff, yay! What does it cost? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #22 Posted August 29, 2017 Just now, aboomination said: What does it cost? Your dignity 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akula971 Beta Tester 1,059 posts 14,838 battles Report post #23 Posted August 29, 2017 Put yourself in their sales and marketing peoples position. What can we sell to the players that we can make real money on? 1. Cammo? yes done that, and premium cammo too. 2. Premium consumables? yes done that. 3. Flags? yes done that 4. Premium ships, done a long time ago. 5. Special commanders? easier to get through crates. 6. Premium Port? done.. ? But we'll add some, in game, for credits so that we cannot be accused of pay to win. But make the economy at higher tiers uneconomical to play. What next they ask themselves. Premium fuel? Emits less smoke, makes it difficult for an enemy to assess your speed? Premium Ammo? Yes! HE for UK cruisers even!, better propellant, higher velocity, more HE damage yes yes they say. Premium The game is a business, run for profit, nothing more, to make its owners money. They will sell you any pixels, any code for the right price. You give up your time, and perhaps your money to play and make them richer. That is the cold hard truth. So can they offer premium (insert item), yes they can. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAVEN] Kashuken Players 720 posts 8,445 battles Report post #24 Posted August 29, 2017 1 hour ago, mtm78 said: Premium != more pen. What if premium means better sigma? WG can ruin their games in many ways, just have enough faith Yea dont give them ideas, i think they already have enough. 43 minutes ago, Akula971 said: Put yourself in their sales and marketing peoples position. What can we sell to the players that we can make real money on? 1. Cammo? yes done that, and premium cammo too. 2. Premium consumables? yes done that. 3. Flags? yes done that 4. Premium ships, done a long time ago. 5. Special commanders? easier to get through crates. 6. Premium Port? done.. ? But we'll add some, in game, for credits so that we cannot be accused of pay to win. But make the economy at higher tiers uneconomical to play. What next they ask themselves. Premium fuel? Emits less smoke, makes it difficult for an enemy to assess your speed? Premium Ammo? Yes! HE for UK cruisers even!, better propellant, higher velocity, more HE damage yes yes they say. Premium The game is a business, run for profit, nothing more, to make its owners money. They will sell you any pixels, any code for the right price. You give up your time, and perhaps your money to play and make them richer. That is the cold hard truth. So can they offer premium (insert item), yes they can. What can we sell to the players that we can make real money on? WG: Short term ideas which ruin long term gameplay Going for that short and quick profit does work sometimes, look at Missouri or Nelson, players did fork out some money for them even if it was a fiver. Then again look at GZ which has caused more backlash and will put off a few players from dipping into there pockets until they know a ship actually works as intended or they wait for a sale. I am not WG because i actually want a balanced/fun game without having to milk everyone at every possible moment but i have bought more than enough and in general i am content with the game to a point but i am not happy with the direction it seems to be going so i am prepared to limit/stop spending but it really needs to be alot of us to cause any real effect. If they want a sustainable playerbase which steadly increases year on year then they need to cater to all players and not just BB players, need to stop nerfing entire lines such as what could happen with the smoke mechanics and the RN Cruiser line, Hurt DD with various torp changes, BB buffs every patch etc. They also need to play fair with all regions but being RU baised will not happen and US is that dead they need good deals but even so basic things like campaigns should be the same across the board unless it is a unique national holiday for example. Premium already does quite well for them, they make more on premium time than anything else i think where as the ships offer that short term gain, camo/modules you can really get for credits and flags you generally can earn easily tbh. Doing a gimmick which can break mechanics and the game such as gold ammo/torps would overall make the game pointless. I generally find that if you actually build a decent game and try not to scam the playerbase it helps, then again look at EA and the crap they pull year on year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dennyb Players 17 posts 2,987 battles Report post #25 Posted August 29, 2017 So they fully admit here that paid or "premium" ammo is pay-to-win in Ships but they're completely fine with it in World of Tanks. Top Kek, WarGaming. Top kek. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites