[L123] Gorenor Players 120 posts 22,547 battles Report post #1 Posted August 26, 2017 It is happened to me just now. I'd like to know if in random battle 1 clan can stack over the 50% of 1 side team in a match. is it work as intended ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #2 Posted August 26, 2017 Who won? And yes, it's allowed. Can't really stop it anyway, and often they just end up fighting each other anyway. Just make sure they actually fight each other and don't feed their allies to the enemy clan members. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLAST] Armorin [BLAST] Players 763 posts 13,067 battles Report post #3 Posted August 26, 2017 Just because someone is in a clan it does not necessarily mean they are good players. Just like divisions, they may be a group of mates playing together for fun and possibly a liability to the team. Then again, they may be elite players in which case you might not get the chance to shoot at anything if they are on your team! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L123] Gorenor Players 120 posts 22,547 battles Report post #4 Posted August 26, 2017 45 minutes ago, mtm78 said: Who won? And yes, it's allowed. Can't really stop it anyway, and often they just end up fighting each other anyway. Just make sure they actually fight each other and don't feed their allies to the enemy clan members. 2 minutes ago, Armorin said: Just because someone is in a clan it does not necessarily mean they are good players. Just like divisions, they may be a group of mates playing together for fun and possibly a liability to the team. Then again, they may be elite players in which case you might not get the chance to shoot at anything if they are on your team! Thank you a lot for the answer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #5 Posted August 26, 2017 this happends time to time. they do it on purpose. can also be completely random. altho in this case i think they did it on purpose if they coordinate with each other your gonna have a hard time. most of the time divisions like that fail to do annything for their team tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #6 Posted August 27, 2017 Had this one too a couple of days ago. Yes we won, but i think the turning point was getting their DDs seperately. And they lemming traind to A where they were useless for some time of the match. @mtm78 Had that happen to me too, both teams had T10 Cruisers from the same clan (i think 2 Des Moines enemy Team and 2 Zao our team), ofc with this setup its very unlikely that they would have ended up in the same team anyway, But at the end of the game, we were pushing the enemy base like 5 vs 4 ships or so (all Clan members alive on both sides), the enemy Des Moines hiding at an island but u could shoot at him. Ofc they finished me and i wondered why nobody shot at him, then i realized "oh nice, our Zaos turned away so they didnt need to fight their own"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #7 Posted August 27, 2017 Suspicious behavior of clans in game should be reported to support :) Counting in is not suspicious behavior, but 'running away and not shooting on your clan members' could actually be crossing a line ( depending on replay ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #8 Posted August 27, 2017 On 2 separate occasions I've ran into another division of my clan just by random chance. It can happen, and one screenshot really isn't too much data to fall back on to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #9 Posted August 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: both teams had T10 Cruisers from the same clan (i think 2 Des Moines enemy Team and 2 Zao our team), ofc with this setup its very unlikely that they would have ended up in the same team anyway, But at the end of the game, we were pushing the enemy base like 5 vs 4 ships or so (all Clan members alive on both sides), the enemy Des Moines hiding at an island but u could shoot at him. Ofc they finished me and i wondered why nobody shot at him, then i realized "oh nice, our Zaos turned away so they didnt need to fight their own"... Ye and in the end we also won that, cuz after I realised that I just... stopped shooting also and capped their base. Somehow that screwed their brain and they didnt understood what was going on. @mtm78 that replay we are mentioning might really be one for the support to look into. Its the one and only time tho Ive had something like this happening. In all fairness I have to say, you see 2 or 3 clandivisions beeing paired against each other from time to time but usualy all goes down normal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #10 Posted August 28, 2017 23 hours ago, mtm78 said: but 'running away and not shooting on your clan members' thats just a [edited] move TBH. I would happely shoot on my clan members Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #11 Posted August 28, 2017 I would probably focus them from the start relentlessly since I enjoy winning and I expect my klenu members to be stronk filthy red's which need to be slaughtered so I win and they do not.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Strapps [TOXIC] Players 1,135 posts 5,968 battles Report post #12 Posted August 28, 2017 It hasn't happened in WoWs for me yet but in WoT whenever I'd see a clan mate on the other team, it's time to load the gold and focus fire. I've also encouraged my team to do the same. But then no one takes The Dingers seriously anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #13 Posted August 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Strappster said: It hasn't happened in WoWs for me yet but in WoT whenever I'd see a clan mate on the other team, it's time to load the gold and focus fire. I've also encouraged my team to do the same. But then no one takes The Dingers seriously anyway. Pff try telling people you're a SCRUB and they should do what you say if they want to win the game.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] Lord_WC [-AP-] Weekend Tester 1,000 posts 8,199 battles Report post #14 Posted August 28, 2017 42 minutes ago, mtm78 said: I would probably focus them from the start relentlessly since I enjoy winning and I expect my klenu members to be stronk filthy red's which need to be slaughtered so I win and they do not.... I would join a potato clan, and sync drop with them then have easy matches all day long when they end up on the other side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] Strikerman1 Players 104 posts 21,610 battles Report post #15 Posted August 28, 2017 It does not nessesarily mean they are not playing correctly. We often face other clan members (main playing time evening and tier X are often 20+ persons of our clan online) But it tends to end focussing your clan mates first, as you would do it with all well known good players to get them out of the fight early. You want to win in such a case :) And there is no way to influence in which team you end up, so it is not possible to cheat or build larger divis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #16 Posted August 28, 2017 2 hours ago, mtm78 said: I would probably focus them from the start relentlessly since I enjoy winning and I expect my klenu members to be stronk filthy red's which need to be slaughtered so I win and they do not.... No u. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #17 Posted August 28, 2017 Oopsie ... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Live85 Weekend Tester 453 posts Report post #18 Posted August 28, 2017 39 minutes ago, Aotearas said: Oopsie ... that's disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. (:D) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #19 Posted August 28, 2017 dAISY 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ApesTogetherStronK [SCRUB] Players 1,074 posts Report post #20 Posted August 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Aotearas said: Oopsie ... You gross animal. Vile. Unsubbed. Unfollowed. Unfriended. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Loran_Battle Beta Tester 1,245 posts Report post #21 Posted August 28, 2017 Amidoingitrite? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #22 Posted August 28, 2017 Damn lucky I wasn't in that match I would have outed you for hax, hags and even window licking! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #23 Posted August 28, 2017 *cough* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #24 Posted August 28, 2017 Ow man I was just joking, no one expects window licking to be the secret to clan stacking anyway don't worry the secret is safe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdiJo Players 1,419 posts 11,712 battles Report post #25 Posted August 28, 2017 It is quite obvious that this should be eliminated by MM algorithm, even if in fact most of the time there is no sign of real cheating (even if the clan has common voice chat). Frequency of "MM stacking" suggests that MM tries to assemble teams based on some network connection properties - maybe similar ping, maybe similar "distance" like number of packet hops, or just based on geolocation by IP. WG definitely should work on a solution - based on: clan tag similarities, history of common games in recent history, similar network connection, etc. This is not the most important thing to fix in the game, but it is also easy to implement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
