Good premium ship?

[Branchez93]

Hello fellas, as you know there are some rather nice discounts in the premium shop right now and thus I was wondering about getting myself a premium ship.

 

First I would need to say that it would be a first premium ship for me while my biggest rank is rank 7 Hiryu (that's because I keep trying to play all the lines from all the nations in the same time lol - it isn't proving to be a smart thing to do but I can't bare myself to play a single line).

 

Second, obviously from what I said before, I do not concentrate on a single type of ships but my priority would be like this Battleships, Carriers/Cruisers, Destroyers. I would like to buy a good BB. I've been checking some guides and videos on YouTube but I am unable to decide and thus I ask for your help. I am also wondering is it necessary to get a tier 8 prem or even the 6 will do? My aim is to have a solid, fun prem with whom I will be able to finance my tier 10 play and grind. If I don't find a good BB I was also considering to get Saipan. It seems like a good choice even tho CVs are not very popular right now with all this OP AA. Cruiser is also an option but I don't think I am as good with them as I am with BBs (nor do I like them that much).

 

I've seen a good review of all the prem ships on the NA forum from Mouse but it didn't help me decide. Any help at all is appreciated!

[MeTaLMooSe]

Do you need a nation specific ship for training or just for fun and credits? (you mention credits but not training which is the primary function for a premium unless for collecting/lol's)

 

Tirpitz.                Epically brutal 'Made in German' brawler with the secondaries of Bismarck and torps.

Scharnhorst.      Beautiful ship. Small calibre guns with excellent gunnery characteristics. (Both of these are also excellent in co-op for some missions).

 

I think they are you top choices for tier 7/8. Others are either free xp ships or not available at present.

You could consider Alabama if you like US gunnery but I can't comment on her.

 

Warspite/Arizona/Mutsu/Dunkerque  for tier 6. All strong and charming  in their own right but all having weakness's of which ze German KM battleships don't really.

 

I think most would suggest Sharnhorst as she's a bit of a players sweetheart. I prefer the raw brutality of Tirpitz.

 

Enjoy your purchase 

 

 

[philjd]

2 minutes ago, MeTaLMooSe said:

 

I think most would suggest Sharnhorst as she's a bit of a players sweetheart. I prefer the raw brutality of Tirpitz.

 

Enjoy your purchase 

 

 

I'd agree with this as advice, Scharnhorst - Tirp may be too high a tier currently (although Metal's comments about her are correct).

[Gnirf]

 

Hello and welcome to the forum for advice

 

Warspite and Arizona are good value for money in my opinion. I know that you play IJN BBs also but I am not so keen to recommend Mutsu to a new player, Your US cruisers have no outstanding premiums, you have Atlanta which is very special and Indianapolis which is no outstanding ship. Arizona is very easy to get decent results in constantly for a player that like you are familiar with the US BBs incl New Mexico at same tier.

I like Ishizuchi but she was on offer recently, she is useful for training both IJN crusiers and Battleships not optimized but she is cheap at T4. I think that the prizes are increasing to much in the higeher tiers. But they are more useful to more experienced players. Ships like Atago, Scharnghorst are fun ships to play but a little too soon for you. But it is also different to buy when there is an offer and to play it. If you plan climbing up the German BBs where you are at T4 it is a fine ship. Your broad approach is excellent but try to match your first premiums with the lines you play/grind.

 

Considering your situation I would buy the Arizona if you buy 1 ship as you have stated your priority list. I have it and played it many times but I have a huge number of premiums and have almost all current lines at T9/10 except the CVs. I can tell you my first premium was the Atago which I bought early (too early) in my career. On the other hand there were not many premiums at that time and I was not informed at a time. That made me pay rather much for a ship at a tier I were not capable of performing acceptable in.

[Branchez93]

@MeTaLMooSe Hey man, thx for the fast response, much appreciated.

 

I am certainly considering those two as my priority picks. Tirpitz looks like fun but the price doesn't really lol. While on the other hand, Scharnhorst is a lot cheaper right now, but from what I see/heard it's more of a Cruiser than Battleship which I don't think I would like especially with those weak guns (weak in terms of Alpha damage - I am a big fan of tier 6 BBs who hit Citadels pretty much all the time for 10-15k damage :O) but every singe person I asked about it said it's quite good which I don't doubt, but I do doubt if I will like it? Especially enough to play it a long time?

 

My primary thing would be to farm credits (which I find primary thing for premiums if Rank 10 battles are anything like Tier 10 battles in WoT) but training would also be a plus. Primarily I play the Japs, followed by USA and Germany.

 

Dunkerque looks like another Cruiser dressed up as a BB (khm khm Scharnhorst?) but Warspite does look quite fun if it can sustain a good money income.

[Ephelemi]

Graff Zeppelin ofc. 

[Branchez93]

13 minutes ago, philjd said:

I'd agree with this as advice, Scharnhorst - Tirp may be too high a tier currently (although Metal's comments about her are correct).

 

Thank you for your comment. What do you mean by too high a tier? As in too high for me since I still haven't played tier 8 ships?

[aboomination]

If only we could play-test ships in a special game mode...

@OP: You have no experience past tier 6. Still, only t8+ premiums generate a the income you want. Tirpitz would be my choice - even if you fail completely it will be hard to lose credits.

You are new to the game but not that much of a noob that I feel bad recommending her to you. That is if you really like t8+ BB gameplay. How could we know that.

[Branchez93]

30 minutes ago, Gnirf said:

 

Hello and welcome to the forum for advice

 

Warspite and Arizona are good value for money in my opinion. I know that you play IJN BBs also but I am not so keen to recommend Mutsu to a new player, Your US cruisers have no outstanding premiums, you have Atlanta which is very special and Indianapolis which is no outstanding ship. Arizona is very easy to get decent results in constantly for a player that like you are familiar with the US BBs incl New Mexico at same tier.

I like Ishizuchi but she was on offer recently, she is useful for training both IJN crusiers and Battleships not optimized but she is cheap at T4. I think that the prizes are increasing to much in the higeher tiers. But they are more useful to more experienced players. Ships like Atago, Scharnghorst are fun ships to play but a little too soon for you. But it is also different to buy when there is an offer and to play it. If you plan climbing up the German BBs where you are at T4 it is a fine ship. Your broad approach is excellent but try to match your first premiums with the lines you play/grind.

 

Considering your situation I would buy the Arizona if you buy 1 ship as you have stated your priority list. I have it and played it many times but I have a huge number of premiums and have almost all current lines at T9/10 except the CVs. I can tell you my first premium was the Atago which I bought early (too early) in my career. On the other hand there were not many premiums at that time and I was not informed at a time. That made me pay rather much for a ship at a tier I were not capable of performing acceptable in.

 

Thank you very much.

 

Warspite does look rather interesting while I no nothing about Arizona. I will certainly consider getting either if and only if tier VI is enough to sustain tier 10 play??? I hear you. My main line would probably be the Yamato one. Since I am a history enthusiast I need to get my hands on it lol :) but I would also like to get other T10 BBs. Thus I do plan on going all the way with Germans too. I hear you about higher tier premiums but I don't feel like buying more than one premium especially not right away. I am more of a long-term planning kind a guy so I would like to get one right now which would cover me for many battles to come if you know what I mean.

 

Only ships I do not play are Destroyers. Not that I don't like them, just the opposite it's just that I am not very good with them and I decided that at least that kind a ship I must give up if I ever dream of getting to tier 10 lol :) Thus a sacrifice had to be made. Not big enough a sacrifice it would seem tho.

 

Would you be so kind to tell me more about Arizona or if u haven't got enough time point me to a good review (forums, YT, doesn't matter). Thanks for the detailed comment it is really appreciated.

 

@eluo I do hope you are kidding, good sir, considering how many players are hating it right now?

 

Edit: @Gnirf I did forgot to ask you why would you not recommend Mutsu?

 

[Branchez93]

18 minutes ago, aboomination said:

If only we could play-test ships in a special game mode...

@OP: You have no experience past tier 6. Still, only t8+ premiums generate a the income you want. Tirpitz would be my choice - even if you fail completely it will be hard to lose credits.

You are new to the game but not that much of a noob that I feel bad recommending her to you. That is if you really like t8+ BB gameplay. How could we know that.

 

Hmm I see your point, but like I've mentioned above I would like to get my hands on a good earning premium that would cover me for a long time without the need to get another premium. Is the Tier 8 BB gameplay that much of a different than the tier 6 which I am at right now?

[Philipp_ab_exterminatore]

If your highest tier is 7 jap cv get a premium cv

[Branchez93]

1 minute ago, p1j2i3l4 said:

If your highest tier is 7 jap cv get a premium cv

Care to recommend one and explain why that one?

[MeTaLMooSe]

35 minutes ago, Branchez93 said:

@MeTaLMooSe Hey man, thx for the fast response, much appreciated.

 

I am certainly considering those two as my priority picks. Tirpitz looks like fun but the price doesn't really lol. While on the other hand, Scharnhorst is a lot cheaper right now, but from what I see/heard it's more of a Cruiser than Battleship which I don't think I would like especially with those weak guns (weak in terms of Alpha damage - I am a big fan of tier 6 BBs who hit Citadels pretty much all the time for 10-15k damage :O) but every singe person I asked about it said it's quite good which I don't doubt, but I do doubt if I will like it? Especially enough to play it a long time?

 

My primary thing would be to farm credits (which I find primary thing for premiums if Rank 10 battles are anything like Tier 10 battles in WoT) but training would also be a plus. Primarily I play the Japs, followed by USA and Germany.

 

Dunkerque looks like another Cruiser dressed up as a BB (khm khm Scharnhorst?) but Warspite does look quite fun if it can sustain a good money income.

Sharnhorst isn't your typical battleship and it's main armament does lack if you like raw punching power.

It is fast and agile and has that balance of armour/AA/secondaries that means as top tier she is a hunter whilst bottom tier she can hold her own.

If you want a typical battleship then you may find her guns underwhelming.

Tirpitz whilst some would say is under gunned for a tier 8, has the same sweet balance for her gunnery. Fast turrets and RoF. Long range and a lolworthy rng. Some games you will delete cruisers at your leisure from max range. Others not so. But she too is fast and agile and loves a brawl. With her fast guns, long range secondaries and torpedo armament she is fearsome in close quarters. Just don't do her the disservice of border licking that you see so often. Only her AA suite is lacking but not enough to worry about.

You will see plenty of tier 10 action but that's not to say she can't punch up. Her and Sharnhorst both do very well thanks to their supreme flexibility.

 

Any other premium battleship (except Dunkerque) will feel cumbersome. Warspite? Wouldn't bother with the new Brit line although she has superb guns.

Arizona is a slow old tug but she has very nice armour and a terrifying broadside for any cruiser.  Dunkerque is a rather unique flavour which brings plenty of quirks to the party.

 

If you like the IJN lines then Atago is well worth a look. Her gunney is battleshipesque with her slow turrets and RoF but a 10 gun 203mm broadside will give you plenty of reward with HE or AP. She has heal, great stealth ability and also 10km torps and you can equip Def AA. She's a swiss army knife that any BB captain skill wise can feel comfortable sailing. I overlook her and don't sail her as much as I should but she always has been and still is the very definition of p2w compared to her silver line contempory.

[ShinGetsu]

Kaga is quite fun, really powerful, but hard. One of the hardest CV to play IMO. The fighter are really weak, and the torp spread and the torp speed may be scary (the drop is really merciless on DD in particular), but you got to get the hang of it. If you're against a Saipan that knows what he's doing you're in for a very hard game.

 

Saipan on the other hand is easy but boring.

 

If I had to recommend a premium, I'd say at tier 8 Alabama is a very solid choice, since it's basically an NC with premium status. Tirpitz is just straight up stupid to play, but that become boring really fast. Premium DD are all fun but hard and requires good captains... 

 

Scharnhorst is a good choice in any case. It's not boring to play, a bit between cruiser and battleship, and doesn't have too hard of a matchmaking.

 

Also, for a good premium DD, do the missions that rewards a Shinonome when you will be able to. It's a very fun DD, and perform reliably, which makes it a good moneymaker. And cost nothing.

(And if you really want a high tier, I'm having tons of fun with Harekaze)

[Branchez93]

6 minutes ago, MeTaLMooSe said:

Sharnhorst isn't your typical battleship and it's main armament does lack if you like raw punching power.

It is fast and agile and has that balance of armour/AA/secondaries that means as top tier she is a hunter whilst bottom tier she can hold her own.

If you want a typical battleship then you may find her guns underwhelming.

Tirpitz whilst some would say is under gunned for a tier 8, has the same sweet balance for her gunnery. Fast turrets and RoF. Long range and a lolworthy rng. Some games you will delete cruisers at your leisure from max range. Others not so. But she too is fast and agile and loves a brawl. With her fast guns, long range secondaries and torpedo armament she is fearsome in close quarters. Just don't do her the disservice of border licking that you see so often. Only her AA suite is lacking but not enough to worry about.

You will see plenty of tier 10 action but that's not to say she can't punch up. Her and Sharnhorst both do very well thanks to their supreme flexibility.

 

Any other premium battleship (except Dunkerque) will feel cumbersome. Warspite? Wouldn't bother with the new Brit line although she has superb guns.

Arizona is a slow old tug but she has very nice armour and a terrifying broadside for any cruiser.  Dunkerque is a rather unique flavour which brings plenty of quirks to the party.

 

If you like the IJN lines then Atago is well worth a look. Her gunney is battleshipesque with her slow turrets and RoF but a 10 gun 203mm broadside will give you plenty of reward with HE or AP. She has heal, great stealth ability and also 10km torps and you can equip Def AA. She's a swiss army knife that any BB captain skill wise can feel comfortable sailing. I overlook her and don't sail her as much as I should but she always has been and still is the very definition of p2w compared to her silver line contempory.

 

With so many people recommending Scharnorst it seems I can't go wrong with buying it. Even tho it it's not a typical bb like you've mentioned. I have no idea why I feel weird about it even tho it since I do like good cruisers (Just bought a Konigsberg and in first battle with it I did 100k dmg against tier VI - it's so fun :D) and this isn't even a typical cruiser either. Maybe I do like it after all.

 

Tirpitz would be my choice if money wasn't that important hahahah but since there is a big difference between Tirpitz and Scharnhorst for example right not I don't think I will get Tirpitz. No. Most likely not.

Atago does in fact look nice and certainly worth a look but with a price so close to Tirpitz I will be getting it.

 

[MeTaLMooSe]

Given the current sale prices you can't go wrong with Sharnhorst then.

Possibly the most beautiful ship and paint in game.

If you dig about there's loads of info and videos on her.

[Branchez93]

14 minutes ago, ShinGetsu said:

Kaga is quite fun, really powerful, but hard. One of the hardest CV to play IMO. The fighter are really weak, and the torp spread and the torp speed may be scary (the drop is really merciless on DD in particular), but you got to get the hang of it. If you're against a Saipan that knows what he's doing you're in for a very hard game.

 

Saipan on the other hand is easy but boring.

 

If I had to recommend a premium, I'd say at tier 8 Alabama is a very solid choice. Tirpitz is just straight up stupid to play, but that become boring really fast. Premium DD are all fun but hard and requires good captains... 

 

Scharnhorst is a good choice in any case. It's not boring to play, a bit between cruiser and battleship, and doesn't have too hard of a matchmaking.

 

Also, for a good premium DD, do the missions that rewards a Shinonome when you will be able to. It's a very fun DD, and perform reliably, which makes it a good moneymaker. And cost nothing.

 

Hmm haven't even considered Kaga, I don't know why. Can you tell me more about Alabama?

 

In regards to the missions, well I didn't know about those, I will certainly check them out! Thanks for telling me!

[Branchez93]

1 minute ago, MeTaLMooSe said:

Given the current sale prices you can't go wrong with Sharnhorst then.

Possibly the most beautiful ship and paint in game.

If you dig about there's loads of info and videos on her.

It seems that is the one I will get most likely. The more I read and ask about it the more people recommend it to me. Not a single person sad it's bad, skip it. I will certainly wait more to see what other people have to say but I am more and more leaning towards it. Thank you very much for your help.

[philjd]

2 hours ago, Branchez93 said:

 

Thank you for your comment. What do you mean by too high a tier? As in too high for me since I still haven't played tier 8 ships?

 

2 hours ago, aboomination said:

If only we could play-test ships in a special game mode...

@OP: You have no experience past tier 6. Still, only t8+ premiums generate a the income you want. Tirpitz would be my choice - even if you fail completely it will be hard to lose credits.

You are new to the game but not that much of a noob that I feel bad recommending her to you. That is if you really like t8+ BB gameplay. How could we know that.

Aboo' answered before I could, but what he says is also true enough - the jump to playing a T8 ship will take you straight up into T10 battles, which is quite a jump. If you are confident of your ability and have the competence to back that up, then go for it :)

Enjoy the game.

[Branchez93]

1 minute ago, philjd said:

 

Aboo' answered before I could, but what he says is also true enough - the jump to playing a T8 ship will take you straight up into T10 battles, which is quite a jump. If you are confident of your ability and have the competence to back that up, then go for it :)

Enjoy the game.

 

Yeah I get it. It makes sense, of course. Is Scharnorst better choice then it that regard?

[RUSSIANBlAS]

Alabama is a very expensive North Carolina. Does almost exactly the same thing except it's a bit smaller and has an OP torpedo belt. You can laugh off CV torps as they'll do about 4k damage to you if the CV is desperate enough to bomb you. 

 

If you play up to a North Carolina and Bismarck you'll essentially know 80%+ of what having a Alabama and Tirpitz is like. 

 

Personally I say get a Prem acc and play the game. Wait until the next sale before buying or watch YouTube&read reviews (LittleWhiteMouses reviews are probably the best written ones you'll find). And always get multiple opinions.

[Branchez93]

2 minutes ago, Negativvv said:

Alabama is a very expensive North Carolina. Does almost exactly the same thing except it's a bit smaller and has an OP torpedo belt. You can laugh off CV torps as they'll do about 4k damage to you if the CV is desperate enough to bomb you. 

 

If you play up to a North Carolina and Bismarck you'll essentially know 80%+ of what having a Alabama and Tirpitz is like. 

 

Personally I say get a Prem acc and play the game. Wait until the next sale before buying or watch YouTube&read reviews (LittleWhiteMouses reviews are probably the best written ones you'll find). And always get multiple opinions.

Well Alabama does sound good but I just checked the price and it's not as good haha :)

 

When would the next sale be? As with everything in life it's best to look from different angles and sides. Thus getting multiple opinions is of course what I am doing. Thank you.

[ollonborre]

22 minutes ago, Branchez93 said:

 

Yeah I get it. It makes sense, of course. Is Scharnorst better choice then it that regard?

When it comes to matchmaking, yes. It can be a bit tricky since the guns are very low caliber for a BB on that tier, so you will struggle sometimes to deal damage to other BB's of the same tier even when they are just slightly angled. But it is fast, has good AA, torpedoes, very good armor and while the guns lack big punch against BB's they have a 20 second reload and are pretty accurate so you get plenty of times to learn how to do damage.

 

However like Negativvv said, a premium account is cheaper and it helps all your ships and speeds up grinding and your overall economy, not to mention it helps you get into a standard silver ship at tier 7 so you can properly learn. 

[ShinGetsu]

I think there's one currently. -15% on all tier 8 premium or something ? Check ingame.

[Gnirf]

Well Branchez - Arizona is a New Mexico with more accurate guns far better and slightly worse reload. If you like NM you will love Arizona so it is easy to know if u like her. She is slow as hell though.

Mutsus is a Nagato nerfed to T6 in an older shape worse AA f.e. and I think she is more unforgiving to play. Her protection is not her strong suite.