Graf Zeppelin is an insult to paying customers

[1MajorKoenig]

2 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

 

There is no easy solution here for WG.

 

IF the release of the ship was unintentional, oh boy did someone FUBARBUNDY'ed at his job. I mean they released the ship on the first (public) day of Gamescom, they were advertising it on Gamescom (with evidently prepared presentations), they had a news article about it. This wasn't a case of someone accidentally pressing a button. The release was prepared. That's not just messing up, that's graduating the University of Mess-Up-City with honours, acquiring a doctorate in advanced f*ck-ups, then dedicating five years of research into how to screw up the most effective way and what we have here is the result of a triple-checked 1000 page research paper.

 

And if the release of the ship was intentional, then someone clearly thought that the ship in its current state is worth ~50 bucks standalone AND that people would want to buy it (I am presuming based on the current state of the ship, not the earlier iterations that hyped it up with its ludicrous 3x5 TB strike package, because the obvious alternative would be extremely underhanded hype abuse).

 

This ship simply should've never been realeased in its current state. The moment it got live on the premium shop is the point of no return for WG, they dun fooked up so magnificiently they simply don't have a good path to choose, only paths that are slightly less worse than the others.

 

No there is a quite solution:

 

acknowledge that your customers are furious about the quality of this product and let them know asap how it will be repaired!

[philjd]

6 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

 

There is no easy solution here for WG.

 

IF the release of the ship was unintentional, oh boy did someone FUBARBUNDY'ed at his job. I mean they released the ship on the first (public) day of Gamescom, they were advertising it on Gamescom (with evidently prepared presentations), they had a news article about it. This wasn't a case of someone accidentally pressing a button. The release was prepared. That's not just messing up, that's graduating the University of Mess-Up-City with honours, acquiring a doctorate in advanced f*ck-ups, then dedicating five years of research into how to screw up the most effective way and what we have here is the result of a triple-checked 1000 page research paper.

 

And if the release of the ship was intentional, then someone clearly thought that the ship in its current state is worth ~50 bucks standalone AND that people would want to buy it (I am presuming based on the current state of the ship, not the earlier iterations that hyped it up with its ludicrous 3x5 TB strike package, because the obvious alternative would be extremely underhanded hype abuse).

 

This ship simply should've never been realeased in its current state. The moment it got live on the premium shop is the point of no return for WG, they dun fooked up so magnificiently they simply don't have a good path to choose, only paths that are slightly less worse than the others.

This more a case of

staff - "but sir it's not  ready.. still not working"

manager - "I don't give a sh@t, we said we would launch for GC, we MUST have it for GC, so it gets released on time"

staff - "........"

manager - "just do it"

[Aragathor]

3 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

 

No there is a quite solution:

 

acknowledge that your customers are furious about the quality of this product and let them know asap how it will be repaired!

 

You mean something like this:

 

"We are sorry for the balance issues experienced by those who bought the Graf Zeppelin. Be assured that we will make adjustments to the ship soon®. Until then we will closely monitor your feedback. Action Stations!"

 

And we can wait for a year until something changes.

[Aotearas]

Just now, 1MajorKoenig said:

 

No there is a quite solution:

 

acknowledge that your customers are furious about the quality of this product and let them know asap how it will be repaired!

 

That is the right decision.

 

But at this point, WG is losing either way. Because if they admit the product isn't finalized, then de facto it's faulty and they MUST accept refunds if anyone asks for it. And that is about nuclear as it gets in terms of bad choices for a company selling goods.

 

I'm not saying there are no solutions for WG. I'm just saying that no matter what they do, they're screwed ... they literally have no good options left from their perspective.

[1MajorKoenig]

9 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

 

That is the right decision.

 

But at this point, WG is losing either way. Because if they admit the product isn't finalized, then de facto it's faulty and they MUST accept refunds if anyone asks for it. And that is about nuclear as it gets in terms of bad choices for a company selling goods.

 

I'm not saying there are no solutions for WG. I'm just saying that no matter what they do, they're screwed ... they literally have no good options left from their perspective.

 

They don't even have to ADMIT it is not finalized to avoid that situation.

 

A statement like:

 

"Dear players,

 

we listened to your feedback and acknowledge that Graf Zeppelin is notconvenient to play in her current state for some players. In order to offer you the best possible gaming experience we decided to change the ship in the following way:

 

1) (insert fighter stuff here)

2) (insert AP bomb fix here)

 

These changes will be applied as part of a hot fix tomorrow night. We hope that this will make the ship more convenient to use for all players. Thank you for your intense feedback and see you at the high seas!

 

Action stations!"

 

Sonething like that 

[Bluestrategist]

WG can fix this. 

9 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

 

They don't even have to ADMIT it is not finalized to avoid that situation.

 

A statement like:

 

"Dear players,

 

we listened to your feedback and acknowledge that Graf Zeppelin is notconvenient to play in her current state for some players. In order to offer you the best possible gaming experience we decided to change the ship in the following way:

 

1) (insert fighter stuff here)

2) (insert AP bomb fix here)

 

These changes will be applied as part of a hot fix tomorrow night. We hope that this will make the ship more convenient to use for all players. Thank you for your intense feedback and see you at the high seas!

 

Action stations!"

 

Sonething like that 

I agree. All they need to do is something like 1MajorKoenig has suggested...but they cannot do that until they have set up their PR, game balance and coding. We should be a little patient.

I would say that WG does have a pretty good* record for nerfing OP tanks and ships, and for buffing UP ones. They have shown that they listen. But a kneejerk super-buff to GZ (which I do own) might cause them even more problems. We need them to keep us in the loop and reassure those of us who have spent a LOT of money on this ship that we will be fairly treated.

*not perfect

[Widar_Thule]

5 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

 

That is the right decision.

 

But at this point, WG is losing either way. Because if they admit the product isn't finalized, then de facto it's faulty and they MUST accept refunds if anyone asks for it. And that is about nuclear as it gets in terms of bad choices for a company selling goods.

 

I'm not saying there are no solutions for WG. I'm just saying that no matter what they do, they're screwed ... they literally have no good options left from their perspective.

 

I do not agree.

 

I bought the GRAF ZEPPELIN on release since I know quite a lot about the real ship and expected Wargaming to give this technically quite unique ship a fair representation in WOWS based on excellent authoritative studies such as in the superb book "Flugzeugträger Graf Zeppelin" by "Ulrich H.J. Israel". The GRAF ZEPPELIN ship that I got from Wargaming for a price which is far more than that excellent book is really disgustingly bad, almost totally useless and completely unauthentic.

 

Everybody can make mistakes people can get over this company making a mistake AS LONG AS THEY ADMIT THE MISTAKE AND FIX THE ISSUE THEIR PAYING CUSTOMERS OBVIOUSLY EXPERIENCE. But not admitting to existence of the obvious Elephant in the room mistake and then making matters worse by releasing statements full of lies about it and then firing people for speaking their mind is a Stalinist and politically correct approach to things. What you should have done is fire the person who decided to release GRAF ZEPPELIN and fire the person responsible for putting untried and untested AP Bombs with 6+ seconds delay on this expensive premium ship.

 

Do not kill the messenger, address the message.

 

Wargaming management should show some style and moral courage instead of this Stalinist politically correct "shut up everything is fine" approach.

 

Wargaming management should make the morally right decision instead, since the damage is already quite clearly done and the GRAF ZEPPELIN is objectively speaking an Aircraft Carrier with a very weak aircraft complement in WOWS making it an expensive piece of junk. Hell Wargaming did not even get the top speed of GRAF ZEPPELIN right, making her much slower in WOWS than she would have been in 1943. And that for a ship with a 200,000 horsepower power plant which was the most powerful on any ship built in Europe for all of WW2...

 

No words can change that the ships is both unauthentic in WOWS and it is also useless versus the ships it will have to fight. So Wargaming Management do not come with more excuses, or with more lies. You are not fooling anyone other than yourself.

 

As a result of this GRAF ZEPPELIN WOWS debacle I will not spend a single cent on your company. I have bought six premium ships among other things up till now and I am most likely not the only paying customer to act like this. Unless I see some real attitude change you will not see a penny from me on anything.

 

So, Wargaming management, admit the mistake, apologize for it, make fixing the ship top priority over other projects to for once show your customers that you are not money hungry cheats who do not give a damn about your customers. And finally buy the excellent authoritative book "Flugzeugträger Graf Zeppelin" by "Ulrich H.J. Israel" and change the Carrier to her scheduled authentic Air Component and technical capabilities as listed in that book as a first measure. If any of your staff have problems understanding anything in that book then contact me I will be glad to help you guys sort out this mess and unlike you I will not even ask money for it. But for heaven's sake Wargame management show some normal human decency and civility in this matter.

 

[1MajorKoenig]

And it is probably pretty easy.

 

If they buff the pitiful fighters in all values and give AP moms the same drop as the HE ones O would guess ppl would be able to make her work

[Aotearas]

24 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

 

They don't even have to ADMIT it is not finalized to avoid that situation.

 

A statement like:

 

"Dear players,

 

we listened to your feedback and acknowledge that Graf Zeppelin is notconvenient to play in her current state for some players. In order to offer you the best possible gaming experience we decided to change the ship in the following way:

 

1) (insert fighter stuff here)

2) (insert AP bomb fix here)

 

These changes will be applied as part of a hot fix tomorrow night. We hope that this will make the ship more convenient to use for all players. Thank you for your intense feedback and see you at the high seas!

 

Action stations!"

 

Sonething like that 

 

I'm afraid at this point that'd be akin to trying to quench a boilover with water.

 

They can try and quite frankly WG has no alternative other than try something (well, technically they could try to simply ignore the fiasco as if it never happened, but I'm sure we all know how that would turn out), but WG has no option left to appease the most. They can only opt to displease the least. Coming around to buffing the ship as if it were just underperforming (with the AP bombs being so unreliable they might aswell be nonfunctional against anything that moves) after having released her in the current state is going to rile people up that think (with good reason) it should've never been released in this state in the first place.

 

And after the whole "just testing" radar and DFAA for RN BBs that already have the vocal community in uproar, actually releasing a ship (a premium ship they're asking ~50 bucks for, just to emphasize) in such a poor state might aswell cripple whatever good will/trust many of the forumites might've had left for the developers/balancing team. Not wanting to sound like a doomsayer, but WG can't really afford to lose their community's faith in their ability to provide balanced gameplay (and yes, I'm aware the forum community is but a droplet in the ocean of total players, but the vocal community is probably also the one with the most investments into the game in form of premium ships, etc., a.k.a. the whales for WG's business model). I.e.: a bad choice from a business perspective as you risk losing returning customers.

 

 

Again, I'm not saying WG has no options or there's no right way to try and adress this issue. But WG simply doesn't have any good choices, no matter what they do, it's going to hurt.

Which is why I completely understand their silence (as much as removing people from the CC program may count as silence ...). They probably have their marketing department crunch the numbers and try to come up with a course of action that projects the least amount of loss (short and longterm) and will then simply do what the numbers say is the least worse outcome for them.

 

Or they can do something even more stupid than I give them credit for (WG sure seems to be trying), at this point I'm actually more inclined to the latter.

[philjd]

No idea where this came from originally, but worth a giggle:-

[Aotearas]

Imho, what WG should do at this point is:

 

1. Suspend the sales of the ship entirely until AFTER a satisfying balance has been achieved after readjusting the ship's gameplay. Issue a public apology about releasing the ship in a state that was unrepresentative to prior CC impressions and appears to be underperforming.
2. Offer no questions asked refund for anyone who doesn't want to keep the ship.
3. Offer incentives for people to keep and keep playing the GZ as WG adjusts it (more data means faster cycling through changes, thus achieving a satisfying finalized state ASAP at which point sales can resume).

#0 and #4 to infinity on that list should be: Never ever pull that kind of stunt again!

[_DeathWing_]

Were I stupid enough? No! Looks like I wasn't stupid enough for you WG.

 

After this kind of behaviour towards customers AKA players and some of the CC (we all know) I'm really considering to zip my wallet for WG. 

[ImperialAdmiral]

3 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

Imho, what WG should do at this point is:

 

1. Suspend the sales of the ship entirely until AFTER a satisfying balance has been achieved after readjusting the ship's gameplay. Issue a public apology about releasing the ship in a state that was unrepresentative to prior CC impressions and appears to be underperforming.
2. Offer no questions asked refund for anyone who doesn't want to keep the ship.
3. Offer incentives for people to keep and keep playing the GZ as WG adjusts it (more data means faster cycling through changes, thus achieving a satisfying finalized state the fastest).

#0 and 4# to infinity on that list should be: Never ever pull that kind of stunt again!

That's how Steam works when reviews are this bad.

WG should learn from them.

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

Sad part Graf that bad , even old Hosho with manual drop can do 3x more dmg,,,, not say even ryu and indi can do more dmg

[Silberwolf]

Refund ticket it out, i feel bad for my team when i play this ship. Iam not a pro but i can only win against other GZ or lexigton. When i see a shok i can just get a coffee and watch how my planes get destoryed, and always Tier 10 games really the DB dont even surive until they reach the BB.

[valrond]

18 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

Imho, what WG should do at this point is:

 

1. Suspend the sales of the ship entirely until AFTER a satisfying balance has been achieved after readjusting the ship's gameplay. Issue a public apology about releasing the ship in a state that was unrepresentative to prior CC impressions and appears to be underperforming.
2. Offer no questions asked refund for anyone who doesn't want to keep the ship.
3. Offer incentives for people to keep and keep playing the GZ as WG adjusts it (more data means faster cycling through changes, thus achieving a satisfying finalized state ASAP at which point sales can resume).

#0 and #4 to infinity on that list should be: Never ever pull that kind of stunt again!

Exactly. That is the only way they can earn some of the lost trust back.

They won't do it, though. Their loss.

[Admiral_noodle]

20 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

Imho, what WG should do at this point is:

 

1. Suspend the sales of the ship entirely until AFTER a satisfying balance has been achieved after readjusting the ship's gameplay. Issue a public apology about releasing the ship in a state that was unrepresentative to prior CC impressions and appears to be underperforming.
2. Offer no questions asked refund for anyone who doesn't want to keep the ship.
3. Offer incentives for people to keep and keep playing the GZ as WG adjusts it (more data means faster cycling through changes, thus achieving a satisfying finalized state ASAP at which point sales can resume).

#0 and #4 to infinity on that list should be: Never ever pull that kind of stunt again!

 

An excellent suggestion. 

 

I would also add come up with a wording that admits GZ is not in her "final state" and that for improved gameplay experience she will be undergoing a rework. 

 

I would keep her on sale though, but with a WIP marker - you pay your money you take your chance... that might assuage sales who would explode if you suggested removing it. 

 

Everything is always subject to change so this is not technically something new. 

[Darth_Glorious]

- 5ters need to be at least same level of Jap ones, more ammunition to compensate low DPS.

- AP delay time needs to be reduced to HE level, manual drop need to be better than auto drop (what is the point to use manual aim if it increase delay time by 3s). If the AP bombs turn out too good, just nerf its max damage.

- If you don't want to buff those pity planes, for god's sake, buff secondaries range to 12 km and give it a superheal, so I can brawl with it.

[WarSurfer]

Wargaming employees read the following and share with your colleagues;

 

I USED TO spend a MINIMUM of 100-150 $ every WEEK on World of Warships' in-game products. That value is now ZERO.

How many people you have/had like me, spending the amount of money I spend every week/month? Hold that thought.

 

The reason that amount is now ZERO is the way you handled this situation. You replied to this thread with INSULTS.

I know people like me are the people who actually make this thing work so you cant ignore me.

 

But UNDERSTAND THIS:

 

YOU CANT IGNORE ANY OPINION FROM YOUR PLAYERBASE!

AND EVERY SINGLE OPINION OF THE PEOPLE THAT PLAY YOUR GAME (USE YOUR PRODUCTS) REGARDLESS IF THEY SPEND MONEY ON IT OR NOT HAVE THE SAME VALUE OF A PAYING CUSTOMER.

 

So.. Here is a little bit of homework for all you boys and girls working in Wargaming Company:

 

Doesn't matter what you do in Wargaming, spend a good 2 hours this weekend doing a hard Internet research on the information I will give you below.

 

Start by simply Googling "Failed Online Gaming Companies". Spend some time reading through HOW and WHY companies that had multiple times of Wargaming's net worth went into total destruction.

You will read phrases like "ignoring the playerbase", "bad reception of products from the playerbase" and "loss of recurring playerbase" a lot.

You will also find out about companies like EA (current market cap: 27.4 Billion $ / current enterprise value: 32.9 Billion $) and its cooperate merger tactics. Keep researching and find how many companies did EA SHRED into pieces in the last 5-10 years. Do the same search for Activision Blizzard (current enterprise value: 48.99 Billion $).

If you work in a department of Wargaming that is not finance related and dont understand the term "enterprise value", it is: A valuation metric alternative to traditional market capitalization that reflects the market value of an entire business. Like market cap, EV is a measure of what the market believes a company is worth. Enterprise value captures the cost of an entire business, including debt and equity. It is a sum of claims of all preferred shareholders, debt holders, security holders, common equity holders, and minority shareholders - unlike market cap, which only captures the total value of common equity securities.

 

Now that you know this, naturally you might want to look into the enterprise value of the company that you work in.. Well you cant. Not entirely. Because Wargaming.Net LLP (current assets 259.4 Million GBP declining at a 24.72% rate with current fixed assets at 21.1 Million GBP declining at a mindblowing 46.42% rate - and this decline has been happening since 2014) is in the state of "liquidation" (thats a state of declared bankruptcy) which allows it not to disclose its financial statements publicly anymore. If you want to know how that process is going on I will take off some of the work load for you and give you the link to UK Government's official website on the matter: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/OC335225/filing-history

If you do your research right and spend some time on understanding financial concepts, you will also learn about your company's acquisitions, its shareholder's investments, recapitalizations etc.. Well you read through some.. You will get it. DOESNT REQUIRE ANY SKILL TO UNDERSTAND..

 

Now I want you to keep doing your research and Google "Wargaming Rubicon incident". This might bring some very cold chills down the spine to some people at your office..

 

And last but not least you might want to log onto a site called www.glassdoor.com and read through of some of the opinions of people who worked in the same company and even possibly same position that you are now..

 

NOW CONNECT THE DOTS..

 

Incase you cant; here is the short form: IF YOU CONTINUE IN THIS WAY YOU WILL LOSE.. You will lose your job, your company and the beautiful game that you have..

Wargaming employees, WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!

 

Or you will find yourself looking for a job with a former company shredded to pieces by a sector giant.. And you will be saying things like "how did this happen?" and "how did we come to this from just a simple mistake of selling something broken for a mere 50$?" "Holy sh*t that old man in the forum was right!"

 

UNDERSTAND:

All these people here, playing this game, writing in this forum, publishing videos on Youtube; WE ALL LIKE THIS GAME.

Just watch Farazelleth's video and hear the amount of passion he has about your product and how upset he is..

 

How UPSET WE ALL ARE..

 

And personally, honestly, I don't care about your company but I don't want to see people losing their jobs because of bad decisions made by few people. So TALK SOME SENSE into them..

 

YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TALK YOUR WAY OUT OF THIS.

YOU WILL NOT GET AWAY WITH THIS.

 

BUT YOU CAN DEFUSE THIS.. YOU CAN STOP THIS.. 

As I told you in my earlier post at page 19 of this thread which I will repeat here:

 

HERE IS HOW YOU FIX THIS SITUATION AND THIS PRODUCT:

 

1- Move the Graf Zeppelin out of the shop IMMEDIATELY.

2- APOLOGIZE IMMEDIATELY for upsetting all your playerbase and releasing this product in such form.

3- Go over and read ALL forum articles about Graf Zeppelin. Then talk to your Community Contributers and the people who have the respect of the community. Especially people like Farazelleth, Flamu, LittleWhiteMouse and come up with the solution to fix this product based on these criterias.

4- Let the above mentioned people and testers test your fixed product. Publish their opinions openly.

5- Update with a micropatch that has the fix.

 

ACT NOW!

 

Best Regards,

 

WarSurfer

 

 

[1MajorKoenig]

1 hour ago, Aotearas said:

 

I'm afraid at this point that'd be akin to trying to quench a boilover with water.

 

They can try and quite frankly WG has no alternative other than try something (well, technically they could try to simply ignore the fiasco as if it never happened, but I'm sure we all know how that would turn out), but WG has no option left to appease the most. They can only opt to displease the least. Coming around to buffing the ship as if it were just underperforming (with the AP bombs being so unreliable they might aswell be nonfunctional against anything that moves) after having released her in the current state is going to rile people up that think (with good reason) it should've never been released in this state in the first place.

 

And after the whole "just testing" radar and DFAA for RN BBs that already have the vocal community in uproar, actually releasing a ship (a premium ship they're asking ~50 bucks for, just to emphasize) in such a poor state might aswell cripple whatever good will/trust many of the forumites might've had left for the developers/balancing team. Not wanting to sound like a doomsayer, but WG can't really afford to lose their community's faith in their ability to provide balanced gameplay (and yes, I'm aware the forum community is but a droplet in the ocean of total players, but the vocal community is probably also the one with the most investments into the game in form of premium ships, etc., a.k.a. the whales for WG's business model). I.e.: a bad choice from a business perspective as you risk losing returning customers.

 

 

Again, I'm not saying WG has no options or there's no right way to try and adress this issue. But WG simply doesn't have any good choices, no matter what they do, it's going to hurt.

Which is why I completely understand their silence (as much as removing people from the CC program may count as silence ...). They probably have their marketing department crunch the numbers and try to come up with a course of action that projects the least amount of loss (short and longterm) and will then simply do what the numbers say is the least worse outcome for them.

 

Or they can do something even more stupid than I give them credit for (WG sure seems to be trying), at this point I'm actually more inclined to the latter.

 

I disagree here. Ppl here are not unreasonable. We want a ship that is fun to play and therefore need a fix/buff. 

[MadnerKami]

10 hours ago, valrond said:

It's true

It seems this game is going down the drain fast.

OMFG

[Dampfboot]

2 hours ago, Aotearas said:

 

There is no easy solution here for WG.

 

IF the release of the ship was unintentional, oh boy did someone FUBARBUNDY'ed at his job. I mean they released the ship on the first (public) day of Gamescom, they were advertising it on Gamescom (with evidently prepared presentations), they had a news article about it. This wasn't a case of someone accidentally pressing a button. The release was prepared. That's not just messing up, that's graduating the University of Mess-Up-City with honours, acquiring a doctorate in advanced f*ck-ups, then dedicating five years of research into how to screw up the most effective way and what we have here is the result of a triple-checked 1000 page research paper.

 

And if the release of the ship was intentional, then someone clearly thought that the ship in its current state is worth ~50 bucks standalone AND that people would want to buy it (I am presuming based on the current state of the ship, not the earlier iterations that hyped it up with its ludicrous 3x5 TB strike package, because the obvious alternative would be extremely underhanded hype abuse). I'd question anyone's state-of-mind who'd genuinely think people would be happy with this ship as it stands right now.

 

This ship simply should've never been realeased in its current state. The moment it got live on the premium shop is the point of no return for WG, they dun fooked up so magnificiently they simply don't have a good path to choose, only paths that are slightly less worse than the others.

 

The solution is very easy. Refund all players, take ship back into testing, release finished product. There you go, problem solved.

[Admiral_noodle]

1 minute ago, Dampfboot said:

 

The solution is very easy. Refund all players, take ship back into testing, release finished product. There you go, problem solved.

 

You don't even need to go that far. 

 

- admit it's a WIP

- display WIP or "early access" on the sales 

- offer refunds to people who bought before that

- continue working on GZ

- offer in game incentives to keep playing her 

 

collaborative feedback with the playerbase. 

[Dampfboot]

Just now, Admiral_noodle said:

 

You don't even need to go that far. 

 

- admit it's a WIP

- display WIP or "early access" on the sales 

- offer refunds to people who bought before that

- continue working on GZ

- offer in game incentives to keep playing her 

 

collaborative feedback with the playerbase. 

 

Have you considered applying for a job at WG?  They could really use your help right now.

[mtm78]

3 hours ago, Ishiro32 said:

At this point this is more about principals. WG is selling microtransaction in early access form for the price of full product.

 

WG was ok within their rights to terminate cooperation with iChase because he said this is outragous, but they shouldn't.

They should take the heat and admit that they rushed this release and apologise to everyone giving anyone who bought ship before apology option to refund it without providing reason. Instead they decided to say git good regarding a ship that no one in community is able to work and they lashed out at anyone in their reach who steped out of line. No to mention that they said that everything is finished even though evidence is plainly seen by anyone, because game doesn't have UI elements to support this ship.

 

WG is treating people like morons. Just because they can, doesn't make it right.

 

Hear hear. 

 

6 minutes ago, Admiral_noodle said:

 

You don't even need to go that far. 

 

- admit it's a WIP

- display WIP or "early access" on the sales 

- offer refunds to people who bought before that

- continue working on GZ

- offer in game incentives to keep playing her 

 

collaborative feedback with the playerbase. 

 

Ev1n should hire you ;)