Graf Zeppelin is an insult to paying customers

[__Helmut_Kohl__]

@Kandly thx again for taking the heat. 

 

I do like the idea of challenging manual drops. 

But the delay is simply too long, so that it becomes confusing and a gamble. 

Not even Farazelleth could make it work and used autodrop instead. 

[Verdius]

3 minutes ago, Ofenkartoffel said:

@Kandly thx again for taking the heat. 

 

I do like the idea of challenging manual drops. 

But the delay is simply too long, so that it becomes confusing and a gamble. 

Not even Farazelleth could make it work and used autodrop instead. 

Of course the delay is too long/unbalanced, it wasn't even tested so they could push it out for GC. UI for it also doesn't work with no feedback, and the bombers technically only drop the moment that the bombs hit, not the 6 seconds before that when they supposedly drop them.

[Allied_Winter]

28 minutes ago, Kandly said:

I can assure you that only out of line comments will be moderated and that we're not deleting any reviews or videos. We're not silencing anyone, all of our Community Contributors are free to share their thoughts on the matter.

 

Also, as far as I can see, iChase's video is still up. What do you mean, it got deleted?

 

 

Yes it's still up on YT, but the link to it from the forum (which was posted here only two pages ago) got - apparently - deleted.

 

But hey, maybe it was a mistake, so (CAUTION! The linked video contains mild profanity):

 

 

Greetings

[avenger121]

Mods to the rescue, silence all the people that call out WG for their scam!

[MadHunter1991]

All GZ players

 

 

[Major_Damage225]

Im no cv player but the ammount of negative feedback this ship got is astonishing. 

[philjd]

49 minutes ago, Tirande said:

Kaga isn't OP; she gets Edited  by MM, Atlanta, Saipan, non-functional fighters and random AA decided to wanpan planes across the map. :3 Big Meh is trashy at best unless you have the RNG hax in place. The only good thing to come out of iChase:

Edited

 

This is good fun~ And I guess WG deems this acceptable for 50 bucks.

This post has been edited by the moderation team due to swearing and inappropriate content.

Kaga is the highest performing T7 CV by a fair margin - +2%w/r, +9k damage

'E' is also the leader of the T8 CV's, +0.8% w/r, +5.5k damage

 

GZ is the worst @ T8 by damage, -4.5k on Lexi, 2nd worst for w/r (better than Lexi)

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Stats rarely tell the full truth, but tend to be a better basis than opinions without foundations.  :)

[VMX]

3 minutes ago, Allied_Winter said:

 

Yes it's still up on YT, but the link to it from the forum (which was posted here only two pages ago) got - apparently - deleted.

 

But hey, maybe it was a mistake, so:

 

 

Greetings

Hello,

 

These videos are removed due to audio and visual profane language they contain,which is against the rules,always was so please just stick with the forum rules.

 

Thank you,

VMX 

[Jethro_Grey]

9 minutes ago, Kandly said:

I can assure you that only out of line comments will be moderated and that we're not deleting any reviews or videos. We're not silencing anyone, all of our Community Contributors are free to share their thoughts on the matter.

 

Also, as far as I can see, iChase's video is still up. What do you mean, it got deleted?

 

 

Well, someone removed iChase' video from previous posts.

 

My post stating exactly that was removed too.

Apparently, the word "post" is also considered now offensive as it was removed from another of my posts on the previous page.

 

I can, of course, understand why you would remove the vid, anything having a negative impact on sales during Gamescom is unwanted.

Unless the vid in these posts got accidentally deleted? You know, ship happens, right?

[piet11111]

1 minute ago, VMX said:

Hello,

 

These videos are removed due to audio and visual profane language they contain,which is against the rules,always was so please just stick with the forum rules.

 

Thank you,

VMX 

 

I doubt many are going to accept that explanation when it seems like censorship of a video wargaming doesnt like.

[Allied_Winter]

1 minute ago, VMX said:

Hello,

 

These videos are removed due to audio and visual profane language they contain,which is against the rules,always was so please just stick with the forum rules.

 

Thank you,

VMX 

 

Ahhhh ok, thanks for clearing that! So if iChase had made a video without said profanity, it would be good to go.

 

Greetings

[philjd]

1 minute ago, VMX said:

Hello,

 

These videos are removed due to audio and visual profane language they contain,which is against the rules,always was so please just stick with the forum rules.

 

Thank you,

VMX 

I am not trying to argue with a moderator, but the video comes with warnings about the language both on it's cover page and also verbally at the start of the video, neither of which are on the forums 'directly'.

[Zogash85]

1 minute ago, VMX said:

Hello,

 

These videos are removed due to audio and visual profane language they contain,which is against the rules,always was so please just stick with the forum rules.

 

Thank you,

VMX 

 

Are you effin' serious?! You really like pouring oil on raging fires, don't ya?

 

[Jethro_Grey]

2 minutes ago, VMX said:

Hello,

 

These videos are removed due to audio and visual profane language they contain,which is against the rules,always was so please just stick with the forum rules.

 

Thank you,

VMX 

 

Yeah, right. Totally believable. Has absolutely nothing to do with the vid essentially saying:" The Graf Zeppelin is an unfinished and utterly useless broken ship and a waste of money, do NOT buy".

[Exocet6951]

Funny how those videos are only ever removed when there's a controversial topic.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[MadHunter1991]

[Jethro_Grey]

22 minutes ago, mtm78 said:

 

Farazelleth been quite clear: I bought this SO YOU GUYS don't have to ;) Dropsiq on stream said it's a bad ship just due to having DB only, and I'm sure Flamuu already said this himself as well prior to the last changes as he just doesn't like db only CV.
 

None of them had a way of reviewing the final state of the ship before it went to live though. 

 

 

 

He isn't the only one.

Where are the others?

 

@Flamu, Jingles, @Aerroon, and the others to the rescue!

[Tirande]

2 minutes ago, philjd said:

Kaga is the highest performing T7 CV by a fair margin - +2%w/r, +9k damage

'E' is also the leader of the T8 CV's, +0.8% w/r, +5.5k damage

 

GZ is the worst @ T8 by damage, -4.5k on Lexi, 2nd worst for w/r (better than Lexi)

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Stats rarely tell the full truth, but tend to be a better basis than opinions without foundations.  :)

Well, considering Kaga is unplayable if in +2 MM and/or against even a remotely competent opponent I wouldn't dare to call her OP by a long shot. Not to mention the fact that half her strafes don't actually do anything which is all fun and engaging gameplay. Big Meh relies on someone getting a lucky bomb hit in, that's like saying Yamato is OP because she has the chance to citadel a target instead of overpenning which she normally does due to her gun caliber. That said, the only good thing about Big Meh is that she is literally a souped up AS Ranger.... which means you can ruin the enemy CV's day by telling him he's not allowed to play, do his missions or have fun.

 

Graf Zeppelin is a joke though, a really bad joke... but a joke nonetheless. I reckon she's worth maybe 20 bucks in her current form? As a decoration in port and not to be played under any circumstance in to avoid intentionally helping the enemy team by giving them the advantage of having an actual CV?

[1MajorKoenig]

Wow you WG guys suck hard

 

1) release an unfinished product for 50€

 

2) pretend "all-is-fine"

 

3) start editing posts by upset customers (which are rightly so)

 

That doesn't make it ANY better and doesn't answer the question how this will be solved

[d_Lynn]

Since two days of her release : Nearby worst winrate of the tier and worst average damage.

 

How can you pretend to not have made a misstake, when a lot of CV player are against you ? Even some famous tester are at the point of being vulgar to be hear properly.

 

 

This ship have clearly a problem. Even if skilled bombers is a good idea (No one like to get one shot by a clicker). It's waaaaay to much unbalanced. 6 sec (9with animation) is just UNPLAYABLE. I challenge you, Wargaming, to make a decent score with Graf AP (AFK bots aren't allowed).

[avenger121]

Cant post vids of WG´s official CCs in WG´s very own forum, kek.

 

 

If the mods really want to do something useful, stop those stupid and obnoxious weeb spammers.

[Zogash85]

[VMX]

Hello again,

 

I removed previous links due to profanity but in this case  we'll leave this one here because we understand the situation, but know that any future posts containing a link to any inappropriate content will be moderated according to the forum rules.

 

Thanks,

VMX

[mtm78]

28 minutes ago, Kandly said:

I can assure you that only out of line comments will be moderated and that we're not deleting any reviews or videos. We're not silencing anyone, all of our Community Contributors are free to share their thoughts on the matter.

 

Also, as far as I can see, iChase's video is still up. What do you mean, it got deleted?

 

 

*edited myself*

 

 

So why did my post with THIS EXACT CONTENT got 'moderated'?

 

You're lying. 

 

edit: 

 

Lmao, so now you're limiting exposure of negative comments when the ship has been put on sale because they didn't use the correct language? Notser's video is 'toxic'? What? 

 

WHAT? 

 

 

[Allied_Winter]

Just now, VMX said:

Hello again,

 

I removed previous links due to profanity but in this case  we'll leave this one here because we understand the situation, but know that any future posts containing a link to any inappropriate content will be moderated according to the forum rules.

 

Thanks,

VMX

 

Sensible decision!

 

I'll add another disclaimer to my post that highlights incoming profanity.

 

 

Greetings